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floppytechiefloppytechie Member Posts: 136 Arc User
OK,I made a similar thread a long looong time ago and it was universally shot down (I have no idea why,I thought the kdf could use all the ships they could get :rolleyes: ).

Basically what I want is an escort carrier with a single hangerbay,with a raptor skin,most preferably the Pach raptor or the Quorgh raptor.The feds have the armitage,the Roms have the Ar'kif,I don't see why the kdf shouldn't have one of their own.

Now,before anyone says,I know about the lockbox escort carriers,I actually own TWO of them.But I want a true kdf raptor carrier,cause why not?:P

So cryptic, make it so?:D
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  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I agree with you 100% on this!
    It would be awesome if the patch raptor was used then i could use the
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Puyjaq_Raptor
    Come on cryptic!!!
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Only if it can launch Raptors as hangar pets. Otherwise I'm disappointed.
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Really targ! Negh'Var's for the win!!!
  • phalanx01phalanx01 Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    OK,I made a similar thread a long looong time ago and it was universally shot down (I have no idea why,I thought the kdf could use all the ships they could get :rolleyes: ).

    Basically what I want is an escort carrier with a single hangerbay,with a raptor skin,most preferably the Pach raptor or the Quorgh raptor.The feds have the armitage,the Roms have the Ar'kif,I don't see why the kdf shouldn't have one of their own.

    Now,before anyone says,I know about the lockbox escort carriers,I actually own TWO of them.But I want a true kdf raptor carrier,cause why not?:P

    So cryptic, make it so?:D

    I'm still waiting for a Vesta equivalent for the KDF myself, a Sci ship with a hangar bay KDF side would be more then welcome. Heck I wouldn't mind if they'd use an existing Orion or Gorn skin to make the ship either, just would love to have a ship like that!
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'd say a Lethean or Ferasan Escort carrier would be better than another Raptor. ;)
    phalanx01 wrote: »
    I'm still waiting for a Vesta equivalent for the KDF myself, a Sci ship with a hangar bay KDF side would be more then welcome. Heck I wouldn't mind if they'd use an existing Orion or Gorn skin to make the ship either, just would love to have a ship like that!

    I totally agree here, KDF need support/science ships. We want to kill with exotic radiation like the Vesta, Nova, Intrepid and all the Terran.. um I mean Federation Science Captains can do. Right now there isn't much for KDF Science Captains to fly. Kind of boring really.

    They got our carriers back in the day, time to return the favor. Cryptic has shown that faction uniqueness doesn't matter, that cross faction is the future. :D
    Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I wouldn't say no to it but I'd rather have a t6 command spec vo'quv. Let's get the basics before the new fancy stuff.

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,820 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    z3ndor99 wrote: »
    I agree with you 100% on this!
    It would be awesome if the patch raptor was used then i could use the
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Puyjaq_Raptor
    Come on cryptic!!!

    Oh Yeah...the Puyjaq skin would be awesome.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Kdf don't get ships people want.
    We get the bortasqu.

    Not new carriers or bop's
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Chalpen's goblet of bloodwine is definitely half empty :(
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I am a positive person. It is definitely half empty.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • orion0029orion0029 Member Posts: 1,122 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2015
    Qapla'!

    This would be an excellent idea for a gunship/carrier equivalant for the Armitage, those Feds have been waving their hangars in our faces for years, it's time we developed a fast strike carrier class of ship!

    I would be curious as to the specs of the proposed ship, if i could do a 'fighter drop' with a TS3 I'M IN! :D
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Only if it can launch Raptors as hangar pets. Otherwise I'm disappointed.

    I await the day my B'Rel gets a Hangar Bay (because Cryptic is all, like, "Slap a hangar on it and the fools will buy it"). So I can launch B'Rels from my B'Rel. And I want those B'Rels to have a hangar on their own also.
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  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Only if it can launch Raptors as hangar pets. Otherwise I'm disappointed.

    You know a few months ago i started to type out an idea like that but then though meh nobody would be interested. But since you mentioned that i thought i would go ahead and outline my idea.


    You guys know how when you are out there questing you run into bird of prey in packs of 2 or 3? My idea was to adapt that same kind of pack tactic but for players. Basically my idea was to introduce a new variant of player controlled bird of prey with a special console slot that would work similar to a pet hangar or saucer separation. HOWEVER the main difference is instead of launching a fighter or a saucer your player controlled bird of prey would spawn another bird of prey (controlled the same way pets are controlled). The item or module could have some fancy star trek-ey name like subspace tactical communication array or something. And it would work similar to a hangar pet or saucer separation console. The "lore" reasoning behind the module is that it would allow two bird of prey commanders to communicate with each other and coordinate an attack. The actual mechanics of it is like i mentioned, it would allow you to spawn or summon a bird of prey to fight and fly along side of you. If the bird of prey gets down to 1% health it isnt destroyed but instead it just cloaks and despawns. Then the console/module goes on a cooldown and when you activate it again to spawn a new pet bird of prey, then one would just decloak or it would have a warp in animation or something.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    If we got something akin to a HEC for the KDF I would want it to be of Ferasan origin, as a counterpoint to the Catian Atrox. I'm using a Jem HEC in the mean time, but even a Ferasan Hangar pet and Shuttle/fighter would be welcome.

    But in all honesty with the Mat'ha and Pilot Ships, all of which I own, and the KDF Command Cruisers, which I also have.

    I really think a T6 Command Vo'quv with new BoP pets unlocked by owning the T6 BoP that is supposedly in the pipeline is much more needed. I think a T6 bundle with a Command Vo'quv, an Intel BoP with an EBC, and a Pilot BoP with the normal Battle Cloak.

    KDF sci ships, I still like the KDF Dyson ships are just fine, have the KDF 3pk, and have t5u'd my ROM Tact Dyson (Harpia). Just ignore the Tactical mode.

    But a Command Carrier & 2 BoP's would be awesome sauce.

    Romulans definitely need a Scryer equivalent, as well as a more traditional Science ship. I would go so far as to suggest a Romulan/Reman science vessel for each specialization.

    Federation: Command Variant of the Akira, a Heavy Escort Command Carrier, Pilot Version either the Defiant or Patrol Escort, and perhaps an Intel version of the Aquarius with an integrated cloak.

    Then a T6 MVAE that instead of gaining specilization seating, when separated each segment instead gains the various mechanics of each. Piloting Alpha unit grants access to inspiration mechanic. Beta command gains Pilot maneuvering thrusters. Gamma Command grants gather intelligence and the exploit abilities.

    In that theme a similar treatment for the Romulan Haakona, Command when combined, then when separated one segment gets Intel mechanics, other Pilot maneuvering.

    I spit out all those ideas as someone with 7 KDF, 3 Romulan, and 2 Federation characters.
    Thanks for the Advanced Light Cruiser, Allied Escort Bundles, Jem-Hadar Light Battlecruiser, and Mek'leth
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I await the day my B'Rel gets a Hangar Bay (because Cryptic is all, like, "Slap a hangar on it and the fools will buy it"). So I can launch B'Rels from my B'Rel. And I want those B'Rels to have a hangar on their own also.

    Yo dawg! I herad you like B'Rels... :D (I know, that's a very old meme in internet time and I'm old XD)
    stonewbie wrote: »
    You know a few months ago i started to type out an idea like that but then though meh nobody would be interested. But since you mentioned that i thought i would go ahead and outline my idea.
    (...)

    Actually I was being sarcastic to mock the ridiculous concept of STOs "carriers" which basically reached a point a shuttle can launch a Negh'Var from it's "transporter buffer" or something like that.

    But reading your idea I genuinely like it. I always found it inappropriate for the ships to "launch" fighters and frigates like it was Star Wars. While it works for shuttles to a degree, everything the size of a runabout and up should only enter the map as off-screen reinforcements. Since the smaller corvette/frigate type of ships are also supposed to be "blown out of the water" by anything bigger then they are I imagined to fight the nosnensical assumption that all ships of all sizes are equal in performance (as STO portrays it) could be solved by small ships having a "wing" of two other ships as their inherent class ability. Of course this would mean two things: 1. the "reinforcements" are identical to the player build and 2. pet AI had to work reliably to make this kind of gameplay work.

    Also, obviously, it would mean that the whole game had to be rewritten from scratch since such a functionality would be way too complex for STOs current state.
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Ohh yah i kinda got that you were being sarcastic angrytarg hehe. But when i saw that it just reminded me of that idea i had a long time ago. IIRC the main reason i didnt bother posting back then was because at the time a lot of players seemed to have that "oh no not another carrier" attitude...or the "i cant believe they are releasing an escort carrier" attitude. I figured that people would have probably flipped out if i had suggested a bird of prey with a pet console that spans another bird of prey. Even if my suggestion only made them work similar to a carrier, but using different wording and mechanics on the item to have it make sense.
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