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cyberpunk1977cyberpunk1977 Member Posts: 179 Arc User
Hi,

I admit, I'm a little out of the loop now when it comes to graphics cards, Thinking it is time to upgrade from my Nvidia 560TI, as its a few years old now,Although it still performs quite well on the new games so far.

I prefer Nvidia over ATI to be honest but you guys may know something I don't know now.

I'm looking for recommendations on what people think is the best graphics card for around the £200.000 mark.

Was looking at maybe something like this, unless there is a better card?

http://www.ebuyer.com/704631-gigabyte-gtx-960-oc-4gb-gddr5-dual-link-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-gv-n960wf2oc-4gd


Thanks in advance!

Cyberpunk.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I usually find that the Toms Hardware Best Value charts are usually a pretty accurate source. They just did an update this month and at your current price point you're looking at either the Radeon R9 280 or the GeForce GTX 960. The GeForce is the faster card, and is what I recommend. It's slightly more expensive but still well within your budget.

    If you can come up slightly, you can pick up a GTX 970, but the best value card in your price range is the GTX 960 which is a very capable card. It's more then enough for STO and can handle most modern games. It's a huge upgrade from your current card.

    I just did a system for my niece that runs a GTX 960, I was quite impressed with it. It's a fantastic value for the price.
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  • cyberpunk1977cyberpunk1977 Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Thanks for getting back to me :) The one I was thinking about getting was about right then by what you say :)

    I'll have a look at toms hardware though to make sure.

    Nice one!
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Thanks for getting back to me :) The one I was thinking about getting was about right then by what you say :)

    I'll have a look at toms hardware though to make sure.

    Nice one!

    Yes, the one you're looking at is a great card. I used an EVGA model, but basically the same thing. Played GTA 5 on High/Ultra settings without any problem at all (1080p.) Very nice card, should serve you quite well. :cool:
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  • belidosbelidos Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'm not so sure about tomshardware advice lately, they used to be spot on but lately they've been a little off.

    For example 960 vs 280, granted on paper the specs make the 960 look like the better card, but in practice (in my experience) it's not so cut and dry. I have both cards and have benchmarked both on the same PC ( I bought the 280 ages ago and then got the 960 as an "upgrade" and wish I hadnt), the R9 290 beat the 960 almost all benchmarks I did except the nvidia specific ones (physx etc), so I'm still using the 280 and the newer 960 is relegated to my backup PC.

    However, I would still recommend the 960 for players of sto somply because they're close enough and sto plays better on nvidia than it does on AMD.
  • tenoholtenohol Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I would say that this game doesnt need a good card,itll run on a cheap one,graphics are from the 20 years ago... makes me wanna puke. Dont waste your money.
  • jerichoredoranjerichoredoran Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    belidos wrote: »
    I'm not so sure about tomshardware advice lately, they used to be spot on but lately they've been a little off.

    If you had a look into concrete card benchmarks you would know they perform different between games/benchmark tools. Sometimes the NVidia card is 10% ahead, sometime the AMD one is. The total score will always be a medium of severel benches and games tests.
    tenohol wrote: »
    I would say that this game doesnt need a good card,itll run on a cheap one,graphics are from the 20 years ago... makes me wanna puke. Dont waste your money.

    Thats right. Sto needs more CPU than GPU under normal settings.
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    tenohol wrote: »
    I would say that this game doesnt need a good card,itll run on a cheap one,graphics are from the 20 years ago... makes me wanna puke. Dont waste your money.


    Note that he was just looking for general "what's a good card at this price" advice, not "what card to run STO".




    Also, I'd have been really impressed if a game had graphics like this 20 years ago. :rolleyes:
    (that would be, typically, 640x480 & 256 color)
  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kiralyn wrote: »
    Note that he was just looking for general "what's a good card at this price" advice, not "what card to run STO".




    Also, I'd have been really impressed if a game had graphics like this 20 years ago. :rolleyes:
    (that would be, typically, 640x480 & 256 color)

    The graphics in sto maybe not right up there with the top top end games but they are mid range so almost anyone can play the game.

    but anyway don't forget what ever gpu you get make sure your psu is up to the task.
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    jam3s1701 wrote: »
    The graphics in sto maybe not right up there with the top top end games but they are mid range so almost anyone can play the game.

    Oh, I know - it's in the interest of MMOs (especially f2p) to have system reqs that go pretty low. I just can't help but roll my eyes at the "Any graphics that aren't the Absolute Best, are therefore Hideous! Even if they were Awesome last year!" crowd, though. And their "looks like an Etch-a-sketch" hyperbole. :P

    but anyway don't forget what ever gpu you get make sure your psu is up to the task.

    Yeah, definitely good advice.... just find a reasonable source for the power requirements, some pages will really over-inflate what you need.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    One thing to know is that AMD is releasing the 300-series and nvidia may release the 980ti model. This could mean price drops on existing cards if you wait 2-4 weeks. Keep an eye on prices now and watch for sales and rebates.

    I prefer nvidia, and people here claim that the STO developers do too. If that's what they test with it might be a safer choice.

    I don't know if that's true, but I do know that I don't get crashes like some people do. I have an older PC with intel i5-2500, nvidia 680, Windows 7 64-bit. All is left at stock speed no overclocking.
  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kiralyn wrote: »
    Oh, I know - it's in the interest of MMOs (especially f2p) to have system reqs that go pretty low. I just can't help but roll my eyes at the "Any graphics that aren't the Absolute Best, are therefore Hideous! Even if they were Awesome last year!" crowd, though. And their "looks like an Etch-a-sketch" hyperbole. :P




    Yeah, definitely good advice.... just find a reasonable source for the power requirements, some pages will really over-inflate what you need.

    always look on the website of who makes it like nVida etc as they may inflate it but it will be so safe guard your system and not just try to scare you if that makes sense.
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited May 2015

    I don't know if that's true, but I do know that I don't get crashes like some people do. I have an older PC with intel i5-2500, nvidia 680, Windows 7 64-bit. All is left at stock speed no overclocking.

    I was using an Nvidia (460) and just recently upgraded to an ATI (260x) just to bring my PC up to a cheap par. There have been some hiccups but after updating to the beta drivers (ATM 15.4) those have almost totally disappeared (still a rare texture bug when running STO on Dx11 but its very, very minor.) That's compared to never quite satisfactory performance on that Nvidia card.

    IMO the compatibility issues between Nvidia and ATI are less significant than potential performance differences between a given Nvidia card and a given ATI. In the case of a tie go with an Nvidia, but that's as far as I'd take the difference.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Personally, the only way I would buy ATI would be if it was a significant savings for a large performance increase.

    They would pretty much have to sell their card at a loss to entice me, they have just had too many problems with both performance and stability over the years. Yes, they have gotten better, but I still have far more confidence in NVidia.

    I'm a system builder, it's just a hobby now, but I used to do it as a side business. I have built quite a few systems going back many years and in my personal experience for 'Gaming Grade' builds, the best results have been Intel CPU, Intel chipset Motherboard, and an Nvidia Graphics Card.

    Again, this is my personal experience, I'm not trying to pass it off as fact.. it's just one persons personal opinion. For me, if the options are close in price and performance, I always go with the Nvidia option and always take Intel over AMD.
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I've run both over the years not a diehard fan of one brand or the other, and my current rig is a Radeon 6950, but lately AMD's drivers have just been touchy and running into too many instances of 'X isn't supported" or "Y conflicts with Z." Not enough problems to call it outright 'buggy,' but an occasional enough nuisance that I think my next rig will use a GeForce GTX 970 instead.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'm not a fan of the GTX 970, because it has a crippled memory design.

    It has 3.5 GB of good memory + 0.5 GB of poison RAM that kills performance when it is used. It's worse than if the card only had 3.5 GB.

    nvidia drivers try to keep games from using the bad RAM, but they don't actually hide it. They wanted to sell the 970 as a 4 GB card so they didn't disable use of the bad RAM in drivers or the BIOS.

    So: 960 and 980 are good, 980ti will probably be even better, and the 970 is only good if you are willing to mess with game settings to make sure a game never touches the bad RAM.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'm not a fan of the GTX 970, because it has a crippled memory design.

    It has 3.5 GB of good memory + 0.5 GB of poison RAM that kills performance when it is used. It's worse than if the card only had 3.5 GB.

    nvidia drivers try to keep games from using the bad RAM, but they don't actually hide it. They wanted to sell the 970 as a 4 GB card so they didn't disable use of the bad RAM in drivers or the BIOS.

    So: 960 and 980 are good, 980ti will probably be even better, and the 970 is only good if you are willing to mess with game settings to make sure a game never touches the bad RAM.

    Interesting didn't know that. (*looks it up*) Still given what a 980 costs and that a 970, even with its bugs, still significantly outclasses the 960, still worth a look. But now with more info, so thats certainly good to know.
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  • cyberpunk1977cyberpunk1977 Member Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Thanks for the replies all, give me some good info to consider.

    My original query was based on running other top end games as well as STO by the way :)
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    amd should bring new 300 series soon and this will mean price cut on 960/970 crads which are overpriced atm since no new cards from amd for 2 years and those were a bit improved ones from 3 years ago

    if u are in hurry 960 should be the best for 200 price ranage
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