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rlak47rlak47 Member Posts: 75 Arc User
Basically, the four toons I run are all the same (as in I have the same Boffs and setup and powers etc) and they're all meant to be as such (in RP terms I run a Fed Human captain, and, by using the aliengen species, his 'alternate universe' identical twins in the RRF and the KDF, plus I also have a Mirror Universe/evil counterpart in Starfleet as my Delta Recruit).

This idea was going swimmingly until the Romulans arrived, or more specifically the arrival of everyone's favourite first officer. I am, of course, talking about Tovan Khev :eek:

However, seeing as he clearly isn't going anyway, I figure, if you can't beat em, join em. And so here is my question.....

Is it possible to make an accurate representation of Tovan Khev using the Alien Species?

*Prepares for major incoming flak* :o
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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    rlak47 wrote: »
    Basically, the four toons I run are all the same (as in I have the same Boffs and setup and powers etc) and they're all meant to be as such (in RP terms I run a Fed Human captain, and, by using the aliengen species, his 'alternate universe' identical twins in the RRF and the KDF, plus I also have a Mirror Universe/evil counterpart in Starfleet as my Delta Recruit).

    This idea was going swimmingly until the Romulans arrived, or more specifically the arrival of everyone's favourite first officer. I am, of course, talking about Tovan Khev :eek:

    However, seeing as he clearly isn't going anyway, I figure, if you can't beat em, join em. And so here is my question.....

    Is it possible to make an accurate representation of Tovan Khev using the Alien Species?

    *Prepares for major incoming flak* :o

    Short answer: Yes

    Long answer: Go to the tailor on your rom and save him. Then go to Star fleet academy and it will let you resave him as a fed or kdf alien. (Or if you are a lifer android) Then you log into your appropriate account and load him as the template for the alien. You will have to adjust the uniform by hand, but you will get his size, face, tattoo etc.

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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I haven't tried it myself. If you want to replicate him (OMG), modify him at the tailor and list all the stats/values/color codes that he has. Saving his appearance won't do anything, I think, because an Alien Gen character can't load it.

    Next, open up your Alien Character and see if those options are replicatable. I think it should because people were making 100% Romulan looking characters with Aliens before LOR came out.
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  • elementalistgaiaelementalistgaia Member Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I, and no doubt many others, made Romulans using the custom alien before the "real" ones were released so ,aside from the uniform of course, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to, tricky part would be getting the sliders just right since the Alien ones have much wider ranges.
  • rlak47rlak47 Member Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    feiqa wrote: »
    Long answer: Go to the tailor on your rom and save him. Then go to Star fleet academy and it will let you resave him as a fed or kdf alien. (Or if you are a lifer android) Then you log into your appropriate account and load him as the template for the alien. You will have to adjust the uniform by hand, but you will get his size, face, tattoo etc.

    Awesome, thank you :D
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  • sirmaydaysirmayday Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Also, FWIW, your psuedo Khevs won't have the traits that make the real one so annoying. He won't hijack your story and then stick around permanently just to rub it in.
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    sirmayday wrote: »
    Also, FWIW, your psuedo Khevs won't have the traits that make the real one so annoying. He won't hijack your story and then stick around permanently just to rub it in.

    Unless you go to Nimbus. I had him show up voice and all for Klingons and Feds at Nimbus.

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    Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
  • aesicaaesica Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Given people's love for Tovan Khev, I think that's going to be my next character. Tovan Khev, with an entire bridge crew of Tovan Khevs. Eat your hearts and minds out, haters. :D
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  • bberge1701bberge1701 Member Posts: 726 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2015
    If you wanted to make "Tovan Khev" an actual Romulan, you could get a Romulan bridge officer from your Embassy and make the necessary cosmetic changes.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    It is not possible to duplicate his exact appearance. He has a custom head template exclusive to him. You could maybe get a reasonable facsimile using "Romulan 1." Or maybe "Humanoid 1" on an alien if its the same, but an Embassy Romulan likely would be a better choice.

    You can't use the Save/Load Outfit buttons to copy him. It isn't possible to load a saved Tovan outfit on a non-Tovan boff, not even a Romulan one. You would have to take screenshots and manually set the sliders in the same position.

    His default uniform is also not available.
  • guljarolguljarol Member Posts: 980 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    aesica wrote: »
    Given people's love for Tovan Khev, I think that's going to be my next character. Tovan Khev, with an entire bridge crew of Tovan Khevs. Eat your hearts and minds out, haters. :D

    Pls take screenshots :D
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Now I want to make Tovan on my other toons , just for the joy of tossing him out an airlock.

    OP thanks for the idea.
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  • ilithynilithyn Member Posts: 903 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    aesica wrote: »
    Given people's love for Tovan Khev, I think that's going to be my next character. Tovan Khev, with an entire bridge crew of Tovan Khevs. Eat your hearts and minds out, haters. :D

    Oh my. If you ever do that is there any chance of me getting a bridge invite, because I'd dearly love to see that :D.

    Or screencaps, screencaps works too.
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  • aesicaaesica Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Oh, there will be screenshots. I'll probably put it in my signature just for kicks. :)
    warpangel wrote: »
    It is not possible to duplicate his exact appearance. He has a custom head template exclusive to him. You could maybe get a reasonable facsimile using "Romulan 1." Or maybe "Humanoid 1" on an alien if its the same, but an Embassy Romulan likely would be a better choice.

    You can't use the Save/Load Outfit buttons to copy him. It isn't possible to load a saved Tovan outfit on a non-Tovan boff, not even a Romulan one. You would have to take screenshots and manually set the sliders in the same position.

    His default uniform is also not available.
    If you check the "outfit only" box, you can force the game to attempt to load the saved appearance of any other character (male or female!) as best as it can.

    Anyway yeah, the Romulan appearance options are plagued with this unfortunate design decision--every bridge officer the initial story gives you has a few costume pieces that aren't available to anyone else. With as much customization and potential for unique appearances as this game offers, I'd be very happy if they'd just demolish those barriers and allow any romulan player/bridge officer to use any of the currently-unique appearance options. A bridge officer shouldn't need a unique appearance option to look unique.
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  • demonicaestheticdemonicaesthetic Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    rlak47 wrote: »
    Basically, the four toons I run are all the same (as in I have the same Boffs and setup and powers etc) and they're all meant to be as such (in RP terms I run a Fed Human captain, and, by using the aliengen species, his 'alternate universe' identical twins in the RRF and the KDF, plus I also have a Mirror Universe/evil counterpart in Starfleet as my Delta Recruit).

    This idea was going swimmingly until the Romulans arrived, or more specifically the arrival of everyone's favourite first officer. I am, of course, talking about Tovan Khev :eek:

    However, seeing as he clearly isn't going anyway, I figure, if you can't beat em, join em. And so here is my question.....

    Is it possible to make an accurate representation of Tovan Khev using the Alien Species?

    *Prepares for major incoming flak* :o

    Cloning the Romulan Bio-Weapon known as "Tovan", is generally considered a war-crime...
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    rlak47 wrote: »
    Basically, the four toons I run are all the same (as in I have the same Boffs and setup and powers etc) and they're all meant to be as such (in RP terms I run a Fed Human captain, and, by using the aliengen species, his 'alternate universe' identical twins in the RRF and the KDF, plus I also have a Mirror Universe/evil counterpart in Starfleet as my Delta Recruit).

    This idea was going swimmingly until the Romulans arrived, or more specifically the arrival of everyone's favourite first officer. I am, of course, talking about Tovan Khev :eek:

    However, seeing as he clearly isn't going anyway, I figure, if you can't beat em, join em. And so here is my question.....

    Is it possible to make an accurate representation of Tovan Khev using the Alien Species?

    *Prepares for major incoming flak* :o

    Remember that you can also alter the look of Tovan Khev so you can perhaps avoid features that the alien creator doesn't give you. Though I think Thovan-unique parts are only uniform, which you can't recreate anyway, and don't need to.
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  • rlak47rlak47 Member Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Ok, so I have actually managed to do it (screenshots to follow) and he's spot on, only issue is the lack of Romulan hair in the alien species :rolleyes:

    Running through 'Blood of Ancients' without giving him any shields or weapons was entertaining :D
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  • savnokasavnoka Member Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'm still bitter we can't crush him into a padd and get at least some use out of him.

    A whole crew of TK is ... wow. Boredom or sadism?
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  • imruinedimruined Member Posts: 1,457 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    aesica wrote: »
    Given people's love for Tovan Khev, I think that's going to be my next character. Tovan Khev, with an entire bridge crew of Tovan Khevs. Eat your hearts and minds out, haters. :D

    Oh... God... No... That's given me flashbacks to Fallout 3 and the Vault full of Gary's...

    I can just see them all stumbling around muttering "Tovan... Tovan... Tovan..."
    The entitlement is strong in these forums...

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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I already did the Khev-crew thing (Subadmiral Tovan Khev is in command of the RRW Tovan Khev VI, along with his crew Tovan Khev2, Tovvan Khevv, Tofan Khef, Towan Khew, and Toban Kheb). Really ought to go advance his story a little further. Then again, maybe I should restart him today, before the Delta Recruit thing goes away. Decisions, decisions...
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  • bberge1701bberge1701 Member Posts: 726 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2015
    On a related topic, has anyone tried to make Rinna Khev? Much of Tovan's story revolves around finding his sister, which you finally do in "Installation 18".

    I've always been disappointed that, after so much buildup, you don't actually get Rinna, either as a BOFF or at least a DOFF. So when my Romulan Delta Recruit did that mission, I decided to actually make a "Rinna" BOFF. I've done what I consider a reasonable job recreating the character seen in the mission -- I even made her a Pilot, as per the story. I'm just wondering if anyone has tried this, or if there's a better way of capturing the appearance of the NPC from the mission.
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