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saltuskinsaltuskin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
is the only way to get lobby crystals is though keys and lock boxs cause i dont like playing lottery with my money
i would rather just buy what i want and not play games just wondering
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  • fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Pretty much yea lockboxes, occasional promo packs, and once in agreat while they offer a few during an event but very rarely
  • corelogikcorelogik Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    saltuskin wrote: »
    is the only way to get lobby crystals is though keys and lock boxs cause i dont like playing lottery with my money
    i would rather just buy what i want and not play games just wondering

    I don't like the lockbox lottery either. That being said, if what your after is Lobi crystals, it's not really a lottery since you're guaranteed to get some in each box. The only thing that's random is how many.

    I believe 4 is the minimum in a lockbox. So if you plan to get 4 per box and buy/pick accordingly than buy enough keys to get 4 Lobi/Key,... then not really a lottery. Since you're guaranteed to get the crystals you want.

    I do agree also though that there should be some other way to get them in game, even if in small amounts at a time. Along with something more useful to do with GPL.
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Yeah, Lobi crystals are the "but I didn't get anything good" insurance in lockboxes.... even if you don't get The Cool Ship after a billion keys, you'll still be able to get something for the Lobi you got from every box.

    Weren't really intended to be the thing that people deliberately opened boxes for (but, of course, if you make something available, people will make it their goal....)
  • kozar2kozar2 Member Posts: 602 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    This is all I can think of.

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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    As was said above, Lobi are not a lottery. You always get at least 4 no matter what else you get in the Lockbox. That makes Lobi a guarantee.

    You can get Keys with EC, money via buying Zen, or grinding Dilithium and using that to buy Zen.
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  • guilli88guilli88 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kiralyn wrote: »
    Yeah, Lobi crystals are the "but I didn't get anything good" insurance in lockboxes....


    Actually the main reason lobi even exists is because they needed something guaranteed in the lockboxes. Otherwise both in the USA and EU they would have to deal with gambling laws. The game would be rated 18+ and face some strict gambling regulations (at least in the eu).


    Having a guaranteed item in the lockboxes allows them to legally claim the lockboxes as a purchased good/service rather than a "gambling ticket"

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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    guilli88 wrote: »
    Actually the main reason lobi even exists is because they needed something guaranteed in the lockboxes. Otherwise both in the USA and EU they would have to deal with gambling laws. The game would be rated 18+ and face some strict gambling regulations (at least in the eu).


    Having a guaranteed item in the lockboxes allows them to legally claim the lockboxes as a purchased good/service rather than a "gambling ticket"

    Just a curiosity, but would that mean if a slot machine always gave out a stick of gum for every pull of the arm it is considered a concession instead of gambling?

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  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,769 Arc User
    edited May 2015
  • guilli88guilli88 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Just a curiosity, but would that mean if a slot machine always gave out a stick of gum for every pull of the arm it is considered a concession instead of gambling?

    That would seem so but I'm sure there's a lot of additional rules.

    Online gaming and micro transactions are relatively new ground when it comes to the law.

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  • fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    guilli88 wrote: »
    That would seem so but I'm sure there's a lot of additional rules.

    Online gaming and micro transactions are relatively new ground when it comes to the law.

    The gambling argument was beaten to death when these things first came out. Just think of them as a pack of trading cards or a grab bag.. You always get something but not always what you want. Lobi is the only unique bit because some items are ONLY attainable with it (all the bind on pickup stuff) so you cant always get what you want from the exchange, but most stuff you can (ships boffs outfits pets etc.. Just not ground or space gear)
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    guilli88 wrote: »
    That would seem so but I'm sure there's a lot of additional rules.

    Online gaming and micro transactions are relatively new ground when it comes to the law.

    Thank you. I had wondered about that when the argument first went up concerning the boxes.


    And as far as I know they are no longer putting lobi in missions, etc. So only boxes to get it.

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    feiqa wrote: »
    Thank you. I had wondered about that when the argument first went up concerning the boxes.


    And as far as I know they are no longer putting lobi in missions, etc. So only boxes to get it.

    Lobi from missions was always a special event, so it might come back, but it's hard to build something on it. The amount of Lobi was something like 15 points, that's not really enough to buy anything interesting.


    I think the best source of Lobi are actually the R&D Events. At least if you're interested at all in crafting materials (whether for the Exchange or for your own crafting) and R&D packs. You get more materials, and you get 10 Lobi or so per box. Okay, theoretically you also might get a ship instead of the Lobi, but I would not count on that...
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  • oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    guilli88 wrote: »
    Actually the main reason lobi even exists is because they needed something guaranteed in the lockboxes. Otherwise both in the USA and EU they would have to deal with gambling laws. The game would be rated 18+ and face some strict gambling regulations (at least in the eu).


    Having a guaranteed item in the lockboxes allows them to legally claim the lockboxes as a purchased good/service rather than a "gambling ticket"



    In most of the anti-gambling States here in the U.S., as long as it's for prize items and not money, it's kosher.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    guilli88 wrote: »
    That would seem so but I'm sure there's a lot of additional rules.

    Online gaming and micro transactions are relatively new ground when it comes to the law.

    The sooner that hammer drops, the better off gaming would be.
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  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    hawku001x wrote: »
    Let's all go to the lobby.

    and jack those swanky crystals they got in their chandelier!!
  • meldrithpwmeldrithpw Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    There are rare game events that give out a few token lobi--not enough to get that Ateleth or Hazari Destroyer you're eyeballing, but enough of a tease to make you want to spend some money (a few $ RL or tons of EC) on keys to open boxes.

    Note: lobi is really the only reason you should open boxes. Trying to get the premier drop is a fools wager. I've opened thousands of boxes and gotten a total of 1 premier item, from the 3rd box I opened.

    MOST stuff you get for lobi you can buy on the exchange--check there first before you spend your hard won lobi on the item of which you're interested.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The sooner that hammer drops, the better off gaming would be.

    Trouble is then C-Store prices will probably go up or the game may shut down if such things are changed to much...

    Why do people care so much if its gone? If you don't want to spend money on it then don't.
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