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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Please find below the charts updated today and the changes made:

    Chart 1 - Complete Federation and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.21 - 12 March 2015 (25MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart1.jpg
    . Addition of Sensor Analysis to the Scryer (thankyou tovia)
    . Addition of the Jem'Hadar Strike Ship
    . Addition of the new Dominion Set Bonuses to existing Jem'Hadar ships
    . Correction to Starship Mastery description on the Voth Bulwark and Elachi Sheshar (thankyou tovia)



    Chart 2 - Complete Klingon and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.13 - 12 March 2015 (20MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart2.jpg
    . Addition of the Jem'Hadar Strike Ship
    . Addition of the new Dominion Set Bonuses to existing Jem'Hadar ships
    . Correction to Starship Mastery description on the Voth Bulwark and Elachi Sheshar



    Chart 3 - Complete Romulan and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.24 - 12 March 2015 (17MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart3.jpg
    . Correction to T5-U console of T'Varo Light Warbird Retrofit (thankyou tovia)
    . Addition of the Jem'Hadar Strike Ship
    . Addition of the new Dominion Set Bonuses to existing Jem'Hadar ships
    . Correction to Starship Mastery description on the Voth Bulwark and Elachi Sheshar


    Chart 3a - Romulan End Game (Fleet, Vice Admiral and Sub Admiral)
    Version 4.2 - 12 March 2015 (8MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart3a.jpg
    . Correction to T5-U console of T'Varo Light Warbird Retrofit


    Chart 4 - Cross Faction Ships
    Version 4.3 - 12 March 2015 (6MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart4.jpg
    . Correction to Starship Mastery description on the Voth Bulwark and Elachi Sheshar


    As before, any corrections, please post below.

    Kind regards, Starfish1
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Ah, catched a mistake on the KDF chart(s):

    The C-Store Kar'fi carrier has wrong console slots listed.
    In fact, it's got 4 Sci slots, 3 tac and 2 eng slots. The upgraded version gets a third engineering slot (that's listed correctly).

    (The Fleet Kar'fi seems correct, with a fourth tac console.)


    Thanks for correcting the previous mistakes, starfish. ;)
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Please find below the charts updated today, and the changes made.


    Chart 1 - Complete Federation and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.22 - 04 April 2015 (25MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart1.jpg
    . Addition of T6 Andromeda Exploration Cruiser
    . Addition of T6 Fleet Andromeda Exploration Cruiser
    . Update to T5/U Exploration Cruiser Retrofit to include set bonuses
    . Updates to all three Command Battle Cruisers to include official console images


    Chart 1a - Federation End Game (Fleet, Vice Admiral and Rear Admiral)
    Version 4.4 - 04 April 2015 (14MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart1a.jpg
    . Addition of T6 Andromeda Exploration Cruiser
    . Addition of T6 Fleet Andromeda Exploration Cruiser
    . Update to T5/U Exploration Cruiser Retrofit to include set bonuses
    . Updates to all three Command Battle Cruisers to include official console images



    Chart 2 - Complete Klingon and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.14 - 04 April 2015 (20MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart2.jpg
    . Addition of T6 Negh'Tev Heavy Battlecruiser
    . Addition of T6 Fleet Negh'Tev Heavy Battlecruiser
    . Correction to console stats for the T5/U Kar'Fi Battle Carrier (thank you tovia)
    . Updates to all three Command Battlecruisers to include official console images


    Chart 2a - Klingon End Game (Fleet, Lieutenant General and Brigadier & Major General)
    Version 4.2 - 04 April 2015 (10MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart2a.jpg
    . Addition of T6 Negh'Tev Heavy Battlecruiser
    . Addition of T6 Fleet Negh'Tev Heavy Battlecruiser
    . Correction to console stats for the T5/U Kar'Fi Battle Carrier (thank you tovia)
    . Updates to all three Command Battlecruisers to include official console images



    Chart 3 - Complete Romulan and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.25 - 04 April 2015 (17MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart3.jpg
    . Addition of T6 D'Khellra Battcruiser Warbird
    . Addition of Fleet T6 D'Khellra Battcruiser Warbird
    . Updates to all three Command Warbirds to include official console images


    Chart 3a - Romulan End Game (Fleet, Vice Admiral and Sub Admiral)
    Version 4.3 - 04 April 2015 (8MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart3a.jpg
    . Addition of T6 D'Khellra Battcruiser Warbird
    . Addition of Fleet T6 D'Khellra Battcruiser Warbird
    . Updates to all three Command Warbirds to include official console images



    As before, any corrections, please post below.

    Kind regards, Starfish1
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Well done, starfish. You've even updated the Galaxy's picture, right?

    I've just noticed that seemingly all of the battlecruisers (KDF and the Avenger) have the third mastery passive shown as '+10 energy/radiation damage resistance'. Afaik that should be '+25 energy/radiation damage resistance', same as that particular passive appears on other cruiser types. Surprisingly, the FED Eclipse intel cruiser has it speled out correctly.

    Then there's the D'Khellra: On both T6 and Fleet Tier 6 versions, you forgot to add the Lieutenant Universal Boff ability slot it has over the T5 versions. Also, despite what the ship blog says, the D'Khellra should logically have the same turn rate as other D'Deridexes, so 5.5. As I've gotten the bundle, I'll try to verify that (as well as the curious subsystem power bonuses) in game.

    Oh, and this might by just some glitch on my end, but the 1a chart (FED T5 and above) didn't show in my browser and was reported as corrupted. But when I 'saved target link' to it from your website, it seems to show just fine.

    Either way, thanks for the updates.

    EDIT: Oh, and I'd forget: For awhile now I've been noticing the 'Frame guide' at the bottom of the charts could use some updating because of the T6 and T5-U specifics. So just food for thought if you get tired of RL and the current event.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Please find below the charts updated today, and the changes made.


    Chart 1 - Complete Federation and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.23 - 05 April 2015 (25MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart1.jpg
    . Update to Fleet T6 Andromeda to include correct skin
    . Update to Fleet T5/U Exploration Cruiser to include correct skin
    . Correction to Battle Cruiser/Fleet Battle Cruiser Mastery stats (thanks tovia)
    . Update to T6 Andromeda Exploration Cruiser to include correct console image
    . Update to Hirogen Apex Mastery stats


    Chart 1a - Federation End Game (Fleet, Vice Admiral and Rear Admiral)
    Version 4.5 - 05 April 2015 (14MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart1a.jpg
    . Update to Fleet T6 Andromeda to include correct skin
    . Update to Fleet T5/U Exploration Cruiser to include correct skin
    . Correction to Battle Cruiser/Fleet Battle Cruiser Mastery stats
    . Update to T6 Andromeda Exploration Cruiser to include correct console image



    Chart 2 - Complete Klingon and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.15 - 05 April 2015 (20MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart2.jpg
    . Update to Fleet T6 Negh'Tev to include correct skin
    . Update to Fleet T5/U Negh'Var to include correct skin
    . Correction to various Battle Cruiser Mastery stats (thanks again tovia)
    . Update to T6 Negh'Tev to include correct console image
    . Update to Hirogen Apex Mastery stats


    Chart 2a - Klingon End Game (Fleet, Lieutenant General and Brigadier & Major General)
    Version 4.3 - 05 April 2015 (10MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart2a.jpg
    . Update to Fleet T6 Negh'Tev to include correct skin
    . Update to Fleet T5/U Negh'Var to include correct skin
    . Update to T6 Negh'Tev to include correct console image
    . Correction to various Battle Cruiser Mastery stats



    Chart 3 - Complete Romulan and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.26 - 05 April 2015 (17MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart3.jpg
    . Correction to both versions of the D'Khellra to include to correct number of Universal BOFF slots (thanks tovia)
    . Update to T6 D'Khellra to include correct console image
    . Correction to Hirogen Apex Mastery stats
    . Update to turn rate of both versions of the D'Khellra


    Chart 3a - Romulan End Game (Fleet, Vice Admiral and Sub Admiral)
    Version 4.4 - 05 April 2015 (8MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart3a.jpg
    . Correction to both versions of the D'Khellra to include to correct number of Universal BOFF slots
    . Update to T6 D'Khellra to include correct console image
    . Update to turn rate of both versions of the D'Khellra



    Chart 4 - Cross Faction Ships
    Version 4.4 - 05 April 2015 (6MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart4.jpg
    . Correction to Hirogen Apex Mastery stats


    As before, any corrections, please post below.

    Kind regards, Starfish1

    toiva wrote: »
    snip...

    Thanks so much for this. Very much appreciated, and thankfully we have a long weekend here, so I was able to make an update this weekend.

    I'm quite embarrassed by the D'Khellra Universal BOFF slot mistake.

    Yes, I updated some of the Galaxy images, and now I've updated a few more. :)


    GENERAL NOTICE:

    You might have noticed these new versions have benefited from updated shots of the excellent fleet skins for the Galaxy and Negh'Var. As these are the only fleets ships I own I was able to get high res images which are far superior to those taken in the ship selector, especially the Klingon fleet skins.

    If you own a fleet ship and are able to get a shot of the base ship, in the fleet skin at the approximate angle of those taken in my ship charts, please drop me a PM and I'll give you my email address so you can email me the image.

    Many thanks. :)
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Well that was fast. I haven't yet had the chance to verify D'Deridex and D'Khellra's turn rate (char copying for tribble is apparently acting up and I don't feel like TRIBBLE my Holodeck characters for that right now and getting all those dil-costing D'Deridexes and Ha'apaxes).

    The new screenshots definitely look great.

    And regarding your call for other Fleet ships' screenshots, maybe it would be useful to mention where you took your screenshots in order to get similar results. hile I'm afraid i won't be able to help as I own no Fleet ship at all (in this case, speaking strictly of ships procured through Fleets), this could prevent a problem I had when doing screenhots for patarmarkan's ship viewer: I ended up with very dark pictures.

    Thanks and no mistakes to report this time.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Ok, I've gotten around to some testing and the results definitely don't please me:

    1) the D'Khellra actually does have the wrong turn rate of only 5 degrees per second. Bug report here.

    2) Many of Romulan cruiser-like ships have wrong power bonuses listed. Bug report here.


    I apologise for urging you, starfish, to change D'Khellra's turn rate to 5.5 when I believed the 5 value was merely a typo. Apparently I underestimated Cryptic's ability to mess thing up.
    I leave it to your advisement as to what stats show in the charts, whether the advertised, real or supposedly correct. Fixing these issues can and most likely will take a long while, if they are ever fixed.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    toiva wrote: »
    Ok, I've gotten around to some testing and the results definitely don't please me:

    1) the D'Khellra actually does have the wrong turn rate of only 5 degrees per second. Bug report here.

    2) Many of Romulan cruiser-like ships have wrong power bonuses listed. Bug report here.


    I apologise for urging you, starfish, to change D'Khellra's turn rate to 5.5 when I believed the 5 value was merely a typo. Apparently I underestimated Cryptic's ability to mess thing up.
    I leave it to your advisement as to what stats show in the charts, whether the advertised, real or supposedly correct. Fixing these issues can and most likely will take a long while, if they are ever fixed.

    Thanks for that.

    I think I'll wait to see what the response is to your bug reports in the first instance. If there isn't a response, I will change the chart over to the correct values you have identified from testing when I next do an update.

    Many thanks again. :)
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Thanks for that.

    I think I'll wait to see what the response is to your bug reports in the first instance. If there isn't a response, I will change the chart over to the correct values you have identified from testing when I next do an update.

    Many thanks again. :)

    I'm afraid there's gonna be no direct response. I've even directly sent links to those bug threads to Crypticfrost, which he acknowledged, but that's it. If they ever get around to looking at those issues, it might be next year...

    (Note: I'm not in any way trying to blame Crypticfrost for not doing his job. I understand most of these bugs aren't easy to correct because it's simply not clear what part is bugged, whether descriptions or actual stats. In order to find out, he'd have to consult with a dev/devs. Such a process is no doubt very tedious.)
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Please find below the charts updated today, and the changes made.


    Chart 1 - Complete Federation and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.24 - 26 April 2015 (25MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart1.jpg
    . Addition of the Fleet versions of the T6 Delta Rising ships
    . Addition of the Xindi-Terrestrial ships
    . Update to the set bonuses of the existing Xindi ships
    . Addition of the Malon Battlecruiser
    . Correction to text to refer to the newly named Xindi-Amphibious lock box


    Chart 1a - Federation End Game (Fleet, Vice Admiral and Rear Admiral)
    Version 4.6 - 26 April 2015 (14MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart1a.jpg
    . Addition of the Fleet versions of the T6 Delta Rising ships
    . Correction to text to refer to the newly named Xindi-Amphibious lock box



    Chart 2 - Complete Klingon and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.16 - 26 April 2015 (20MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart2.jpg
    . Addition of the Fleet versions of the T6 Delta Rising ships
    . Addition of the Xindi-Terrestrial ships
    . Update to the set bonuses of the existing Xindi ships
    . Addition of the Malon Battlecruiser
    . Correction to text to refer to the newly named Xindi-Amphibious lock box


    Chart 2a - Klingon End Game (Fleet, Lieutenant General and Brigadier & Major General)
    Version 4.4 - 26 April 2015 (10MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart2a.jpg
    . Addition of the Fleet versions of the T6 Delta Rising ships
    . Correction to text to refer to the newly named Xindi-Amphibious lock box



    Chart 3 - Complete Romulan and Cross Faction Chart
    Version 3.27 - 26 April 2015 (17MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart3.jpg
    . Addition of the Fleet versions of the T6 Delta Rising ships
    . Addition of the Xindi-Terrestrial ships
    . Update to the set bonuses of the existing Xindi ships
    . Addition of the Malon Battlecruiser
    . Correction to text to refer to the newly named Xindi-Amphibious lock box
    . Correction to bonus power levels of some Romulan vessels (thank you Tovia)
    . Correction to turn rate of T6 D'Deridex


    Chart 3a - Romulan End Game (Fleet, Vice Admiral and Sub Admiral)
    Version 4.5 - 26 April 2015 (8MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart3a.jpg
    . Addition of the Fleet versions of the T6 Delta Rising ships
    . Correction to text to refer to the newly named Xindi-Amphibious lock box
    . Correction to bonus power levels of some Romulan vessels (thank you Tovia)
    . Correction to turn rate of T6 D'Deridex


    Chart 3b - Romulan Lower Ranks (Commander, Sub Commander, Centurion and Lt)
    Version 4.1 - 26 April 2015 (4MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart3b.jpg
    . Correction to bonus power levels of some Romulan vessels


    Chart 4 - Cross Faction Ships
    Version 4.5 - 26 April 2015 (6MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart4.jpg
    . Addition of the Xindi-Terrestrial ships
    . Update to the set bonuses of the existing Xindi ships
    . Addition of the Malon Battlecruiser



    As before, any corrections, please post below.

    Kind regards, Starfish1
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Nice work. I must say some of the Xindi ships look very attractive if I were on the market for Lobi/lockbox ships (the Olaen, for instance).

    But apparently there are already far too many FED Fleet ships, they might soon force you to add another line for a given shipyard Tier.

    Either way, I'll try to keep my digging and inquiring at a minimum now, since virtually everytime, I find disrepancies between store descriptions, stats, blog posts, etc. And then I throw the info at you and thus 'force' you to edit the charts. (And it also frustrates me to no end.)

    One thing I will mention though, the Fleet Qib hull numbers are very weird, they're barely above the non-Fleet version.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    toiva wrote: »
    Nice work. I must say some of the Xindi ships look very attractive if I were on the market for Lobi/lockbox ships (the Olaen, for instance).

    But apparently there are already far too many FED Fleet ships, they might soon force you to add another line for a given shipyard Tier.

    Either way, I'll try to keep my digging and inquiring at a minimum now, since virtually everytime, I find disrepancies between store descriptions, stats, blog posts, etc. And then I throw the info at you and thus 'force' you to edit the charts. (And it also frustrates me to no end.)

    One thing I will mention though, the Fleet Qib hull numbers are very weird, they're barely above the non-Fleet version.

    I don't know, it's difficult to know what to do. I think I waited long enough for a response from Cryptic regarding the Warbird power bonuses, I just hope they don't correct them without adding it to the patch notes (they do that you know). Thanks for spotting the errors, I would rather the chart be correct, even if it appears to be at odds with the advertised stats, but there shouldn't be a need to check Cryptics own advertised stats, they're making the #@$%/* things, they should get the stats correct. Here in the UK you can get your money back if you don't get what's advertised.

    I take what you mean about the Qib, it doesn't look like enough of a hull increase for the Fleet version. :)

    Just a word about the Olaen, the image on my chart is at a different angle to the rest of the ships. It's a low angle shot instead of a high angle, so it makes it look like one of the claws sits atop the vessel like the Recluse (or Liberator from Blake's Seven for those that remember it) but I believe the arrangement is more like the Plesh Brek, with one claw under the vessel or an upside down Recluse.

    I'm aiming to get that vessel myself, just so I can get a proper shot of it. :)
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I don't know, it's difficult to know what to do. I think I waited long enough for a response from Cryptic regarding the Warbird power bonuses, I just hope they don't correct them without adding it to the patch notes (they do that you know). Thanks for spotting the errors, I would rather the chart be correct, even if it appears to be at odds with the advertised stats, but there shouldn't be a need to check Cryptics own advertised stats, they're making the #@$%/* things, they should get the stats correct. Here in the UK you can get your money back if you don't get what's advertised.
    There's far too much copy-paste in their blogs and maybe even the store descriptions. Unfortunaly those are errors that are as low priority to fix as low priority goes.
    I take what you mean about the Qib, it doesn't look like enough of a hull increase for the Fleet version. :)
    I'll see what I can find about Qibs, however I'm limited in that I won't be getting the Fleet version (I hate the looks). For now, I'll say the ingame ship store actually shows a 10% increase in hull for the Fleet version over the basic one, at level 56. I'll find out more...
    Just a word about the Olaen, the image on my chart is at a different angle to the rest of the ships. It's a low angle shot instead of a high angle, so it makes it look like one of the claws sits atop the vessel like the Recluse (or Liberator from Blake's Seven for those that remember it) but I believe the arrangement is more like the Plesh Brek, with one claw under the vessel or an upside down Recluse.

    I'm aiming to get that vessel myself, just so I can get a proper shot of it. :)

    You're correct, it's got the same configuration to the Plesh Brek, AKA inverted Recluse. It's just turning on the pic, that's why it's slanted to one side.

    If you do get it, I wish you fun in it. As far as I can see, it's a very capable vessel, very versatile even and the first available with a pilot specialization seat. The only drawback is the turn rate, but one RCS will bring it in line with typical escorts (unless you typically fly at insane speeds with almost unimaginable turn rates).
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I have the Fleet Excelsior (FAHCR) and would be happy to supply an image if you still it :)
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I have the Fleet Excelsior (FAHCR) and would be happy to supply an image if you still it :)

    Very much so. I'll pm you my email address so you can forward it when you're ready.

    Thank you. :D
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Received and will try to get it tonight.

    Question: I see the current graphic has two versions, I presume to do the same (Refit and non refit)?

    Also, I presume to use the "Fleet" skin, should I use Fleet windows?

    Finally, Default paint, correct?

    It occurred to me that I also have the Fleet Recon SV so I'll get pics for that too :)
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Received and will try to get it tonight.

    Question: I see the current graphic has two versions, I presume to do the same (Refit and non refit)?

    Also, I presume to use the "Fleet" skin, should I use Fleet windows?

    Finally, Default paint, correct?

    It occurred to me that I also have the Fleet Recon SV so I'll get pics for that too :)

    Yes, Fleet skin please, default paint. Don't mind which windows are used and if the Refit isn't an unlock due to another purchase, then that would be great.

    Many thanks. :)
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Two pics sent of the Excelsior: standard and Refit

    Four pics sent of the FRSV: Comet, Sol, Luna, Polaris. Shouldn't the main pic for the Fleet Recon SV be of the Comet skin?
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Two pics sent of the Excelsior: standard and Refit

    Four pics sent of the FRSV: Comet, Sol, Luna, Polaris. Shouldn't the main pic for the Fleet Recon SV be of the Comet skin?

    Got them!

    Many thanks, these are much better than the ones currently on the chart.

    They'll replace the ones I have now with the next update.

    Thanks again. :)
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited April 2015
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The non-warbird tactical command ship starship masteries are:


    Escorts and Raptors
    -Precise Weapon Systems (+Acc)
    -Tactical Maneuvering (+Def)
    -Enhanced Weapon Systems (+Dmg)
    -Devastating Weaponry (+Crit Chance)

    Escort Carriers
    -Precise Weapon Systems (+Acc)
    -Tactical Maneuvering (+Def)
    -Quick Deployment (-Hangar Pet Recharge Time)
    -Devastating Weaponry (+Crit Chance)

    Destroyers and Warships
    -Precise Weapon Systems (+Acc)
    -Enhanced Weapon Banks (+Crit Severity)
    -Devastating Weaponry (+Crit Chance)
    -Enhanced Weapon Systems (+Dmg)

    Raider
    -Precise Weapon Systems (+Acc)
    -Tactical Maneuvering (+Def)
    -Enhanced Weapon Systems (+Dmg)
    -Enhanced Weapon Banks (+Crit Severity)

    The Klingon and Starfleet Pilot ships both have the Escort/Raptor starship mastery package.

    Regards,
    Phil "Gorngonzolla" Zeleski

    Based on this, the (Fleet) Peghqu', Fleet Somraw and Fleet Qin raptors should have escort mastery passives (like the Mat'Ha and Pilot raptors).
    Could anyone confirm that?
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Thanks for that tovia.

    The Fleet Somraw and Qin look like they need to be changed on my chart yes, excellent timing as I'm about to add the new ships just now, but the Peghqu is a Destroyer and certainly the non fleet versions look to be correct.
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Please find below the charts updated today and the changes made.


    Chart 1a - Federation End Game (Fleet, Vice Admiral and Rear Admiral)
    Version 4.7 - 10 May 2015 (14MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart1a.jpg
    . Addition of the three Federation VA Pilot Ships
    . Update to the images of the Fleet Excelsior and Fleet Luna (many thanks to cmdrscarlet)



    Chart 2a - Klingon End Game (Fleet, Lieutenant General and Brigadier & Major General)
    Version 4.5 - 10 May 2015 (10MB)
    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart2a.jpg
    . Addition of the three Klingon VA Pilot Ships
    . Correction to the Mastery list for the Fleet Somraw and Fleet Qin (many thanks to tovia)



    Chart 3a - Romulan End Game (Fleet, Vice Admiral and Sub Admiral)
    Version 4.6 - 10 May 2015 (8MB)

    http://www.starfish1.co.uk/chart3a.jpg
    . Addition of the three Romulan VA Pilot Ships


    As before, any corrections, please post below.

    Kind regards, Starfish1
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Thanks for that tovia.

    The Fleet Somraw and Qin look like they need to be changed on my chart yes, excellent timing as I'm about to add the new ships just now, but the Peghqu is a Destroyer and certainly the non fleet versions look to be correct.

    Ah right, the PeghQu' is probably having destroyer mastery passives along with the FED Chimera. (Not that there's a way for me to check that out.) I guess I always considered the PeghQu' a raptor because of the 0.83 shield mod (and general shape). That said, new Tier 6 raptors all have higher shield mods. I hope they haven't been playing with those on all raptors without telling.

    And as I said earlier, I looked at the Fleet Qib hull hp and both at level 54 and lvl 60. In the ship store, it appears 10% higher than the basic version on both occasions. Thus it is 55k at level 60. What the value is at lvl 50 I couldn't guess. On some (non-lockbox/lobi/event) Tier 6 ships, lvl 60 gains about 16% hull, on others, 21%. So theoretically, the fleet Qib could have a lvl 50 hull at around 47,430 or 45,375 respectively.

    Overall, it wouldn't hurt to look at the ship store with a lvl 50 char and check all the Tier 6 ship hulls. I wonder if they'd check up with what the ship blogs stated (and what's currently in the ship charts).


    Either way, thanks, starfish, for adding the pilot ships. Now it's easily apparent how they leave everything in the dust with their stats.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Just to possibly prevent faulty patch note information to pass on to the charts:

    After the latest Tribble patch with basically the same notes, I went to check the new power bonuses for many Romulan warbirds (noted as changed by the patch).
    • Specifically the Ha'nom keeps its +15 Aux only.
    • The Aelahl and Faeht have both +10 Wep and +5 Engines.
    The remaining warbirds on the list checked out.

    Of course it is possible they may have tweaked it again for Holodeck. But extremely unlikely. Particularly the Ha'nom change would be a nonsense, given it's a science ship.
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
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