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  • stumpfgobsstumpfgobs Member Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    Much like yourself, I've not spent a penny on this game since having more than half of my wealth robbed in the great Dilithium Disaster.

    My apologies for derailing this a little, but you lost me there. Can someone tell me what the great Dilithium Disaster is/was? I clearly miss something as i'm not getting it. Again, my apologies for derailing this thread. :)
  • zathri83zathri83 Member Posts: 514 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I flip a coin everyday, saying whether the pvpers will adapt. You can guess the results. :eek:
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    stumpfgobs wrote: »
    My apologies for derailing this a little, but you lost me there. Can someone tell me what the great Dilithium Disaster is/was? I clearly miss something as i'm not getting it. Again, my apologies for derailing this thread. :)
    This old thread might help to explain it: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=241365

    Ultimately there were a lot of people who did a lot of grinding - because there was nothing else to do - and they feel they did not get full value for all their grind currency when it was converted to Dilithium. Unfortunately there was nothing for us to do with all the grind currency back then either. We earned all those Emblems, whatever, and had nothing to do with them. They just accumulated.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I used to get most ships as I have heaps of toons and would like to fly a different ship every day, even if that ship wasn't uber powered. I just liked the variety.

    Of late I've closed the purse strings as I really don't like the direction the game has taken. Personally, I see a trend of "power swings" and I'm a bit tired of it. By power swing I mean one type of ship or one ability becoming waaaay more powerful than it really should. Batman powerful. Then it gets replaced by another power swing.

    This includes (but is not limited to) escorts, then BFAW, then BO, then TBR/FBP.

    These power swings have made me tired, especially combined with how older ships get made obsolete and Cryptic creates a money grubbing exercise to make cannon ships relevant again. Paying three times to have a relevant cannon ship sucks.

    I see these new ships as the next in a line of power swings that has resulted in my wallet swinging closed. I haven't spent any money on the game in a looong time. And I feel really good for it. I'm happier. And I have more money to spend on other stuff. :)

    Personally, I feel that the coin landing on tails did you a favour.

    And I'm Batman.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    erei1 wrote: »
    Wow... way too subtle for me.

    In batman, theres a character called Harvey-two-face.

    Basically he is "Split personality" incarnate... Dr jekyll and mr Hyde if you will.

    Now, since the personalities directly interfere with each other, it leads to alot of indecision within the character, so he uses a coin to decide if one choice or the other is the direction to go, leaving it up to the coin what choice to make.

    Much like I did... Two choices... Both equally strong... Coin decided that I did not get it, but in the end, I did not make the choice.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • furtiveness2011furtiveness2011 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Honestly, None of these ships seem to spark my interest. So far, The Nicor-Bio Warship has been the perfect ship in all I have ever wanted. It's tough, innate hull regen, supports GW, 8 weapon slots, and It still looks pretty bad TRIBBLE! If there is a T6 Nicor in the future, that would probably be the only ship to get me to move away from my current.
    Word got out that STO is having issues again.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    anazonda wrote: »
    In batman, theres a character called Harvey-two-face.

    Basically he is "Split personality" incarnate... Dr jekyll and mr Hyde if you will.

    Now, since the personalities directly interfere with each other, it leads to alot of indecision within the character, so he uses a coin to decide if one choice or the other is the direction to go, leaving it up to the coin what choice to make.

    Much like I did... Two choices... Both equally strong... Coin decided that I did not get it, but in the end, I did not make the choice.
    I know, I just didn't get the joke until I saw the picture.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • maxtboommaxtboom Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    anazonda wrote: »
    This should make you laugh... Or at least smile... or... Make you think that I am an idiot... Either is acceptable.

    Wall-of-text, no TL;DR.

    Let's set the basic parameters:

    I got cheated out of more than half my dilithium in the Emblems->Dil conversion... That was the first time I've actually felt cheated by Cryptic... Not when they opened up for what was originally promised to be "exclusive" to Pre-order LTS'es... Not when the GalaxyX was added to the C-Store after being "exclusive" to the referral program... But the "loss" of 50% dil, because of a greedy, unrealistic choice by the then new EP.

    After sticking with Cryptic for almost a full year without any new content, and hardly any fixes, I admit I felt like all the money I shoved into STO was put into a company that did not appreciate me as a customer.

    Since then, I havn't felt tempted by anything in the C-Store. Especially not since I have yet to receive 4 months worth of stipends.
    I admit, I had some C-Points left over from before F2P, that I spend on the Akira and Defiant upgrades, but apart from that... I havn't spend any kind of resources on anything C-Store related. I basically I promised myself not to.

    Now anyone who has been reading my posts, knows that I am a... critic (?) of Cryptic's and PWE's methods, sticking around mainly for my fleet...

    All that said (and to the point)... The pilot ships... They were tempting because they fit my gamestyle perfectly...

    However, I was in conflict...

    Basically, I did not feel tempted before, because none of the content was appealing, futher strengthened by the dil thing and the missing Stipends. But this was different, because the Ships match my build almost exactly, and they also suited my gamestyle.

    So on one hand, I wanted the ship, and the remaining Stipends I've received more than covered the "expenses" for the ships, yet on the other hand there was the whole issues with the emotional involvement with my experiences.

    So what do you do in such cases?

    You flip a coin...

    Theres a saying I read (On the internet):



    Usually, most things said on the internet is BS... This one, I've learned, is true... It's the easiest decision making tool in the world, when you have two choices.

    So I decided on Heads being the "Buy the ships" choice, and flipped the coin... And... Exactly as the saying, I realized that I wanted the coin to land in the manner that I could buy the ships.

    It was kind of liberating... Knowing that I finally wanted something in the C-Store again, cause it meant that I finally could see some positives about the model Cryptic was going with.
    Even pleasing in some strange manner.

    I was excited and happy, just waiting for the coin to land, so that I could get to the C-Store.

    And then the coin landed on tails...

    I'm a bit torn.
    On one hand the story made me smile, and I like that it ended with the coin falling on the 'wrong' side. Otherwise it would've been a lame story.
    On the other hand though, it would've been an even more interesting story, if it was about you actually deciding to spend 'fresh' ressources (like real cash) and not the stipends you already paid for. As it stands, this story is pretty much right along the lines with a story about someone who has hoarded rep marks for conversion on dil weekends and is pissed about the latest nerf and thus decides (or rather let's a coin decide) to not use those marks at all.
    Dunno...why not just use them, if you are interested in those ships? This martyr-like attitude..well, you already paid for those...do you really think they care, if you choose to not use them? Wouldn't that rather make you the perfect customer, spending money and not using what you paid for? Like, buying a train ticket and not going places?
    Wouldn't it be better, if you just gave in and at least tried to have some fun with it, instead of letting it rot away?
    Think about it. You can make them suffer for what they have done to you: Get the bundle! They'll be like 'Whoo another sold bundle', rubbing their hands. Then checking their revenue and be like 'WTF? Where's da monies??? He used his stipends??? Whaaaaa! We should've never offered this in the first place! Whaaaaa!'
    Not trying to be mean here, don't misunderstand. It's more like me trying to be that head. The one on the coin, the one you wanted to see after the flip. Cause, that's what the saying you quoted there is all about, isn't it? The coin-flipping is not meant to make the decision for you, but it is meant to show you what you really want. And then for you to do exactly that.
    DO IT! GET THE SHIPS! You want them and you know it. You said so yourself. :D
  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    maxtboom wrote: »
    I'm a bit torn.
    On one hand the story made me smile, and I like that it ended with the coin falling on the 'wrong' side. Otherwise it would've been a lame story.

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    Not trying to be mean here, don't misunderstand. It's more like me trying to be that head. The one on the coin, the one you wanted to see after the flip. Cause, that's what the saying you quoted there is all about, isn't it? The coin-flipping is not meant to make the decision for you, but it is meant to show you what you really want. And then for you to do exactly that.
    DO IT! GET THE SHIPS! You want them and you know it. You said so yourself. :D

    If his principles dictate that he not get the ships then why would anyone try to convince him to do otherwise? That's doing him a disservice.

    Me, I like the fact that he stuck by his guns.
  • maxtboommaxtboom Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    If his principles dictate that he not get the ships then why would anyone try to convince him to do otherwise? That's doing him a disservice.

    Me, I like the fact that he stuck by his guns.

    Fair enough. But that's not what the story is about. It's the coin that dictates that he doesn't get the ships ;)
  • reximuzreximuz Member Posts: 1,168 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    anazonda wrote: »
    I got cheated out of more than half my dilithium in the Emblems->Dil conversion...

    How do you get "cheated" out of something you never had by the conversion of marks, the rate of which was known well in advanced, and which could have been spent prior to conversion if you weren't happy with the conversion rate?
  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    reximuz wrote: »
    How do you get "cheated" out of something you never had by the conversion of marks, the rate of which was known well in advanced, and which could have been spent prior to conversion if you weren't happy with the conversion rate?

    The conversion rate was known in advance. The cost of items/services that required dil was not. I wan't affected by it but I still for the people who were cheated by the conversion.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    reximuz wrote: »
    How do you get "cheated" out of something you never had by the conversion of marks, the rate of which was known well in advanced, and which could have been spent prior to conversion if you weren't happy with the conversion rate?

    Well... Others were also cheated, in a much more direct manner when Stormshade told them to go spend their medals, cause they would get lost in the conversion to F2P.

    Then Suddenly.,.. "Oh yea... we are going to turn it into dilithium instead btw, so those of you who have spend it... bad luck"... And it wasn't really that much of an advanced warning on the other side...

    Point is, and you've missed the rather obvious, not coded element here: It's the behavior of Cryptic that lead me to my choices.

    Not just the fact that I lost what half of what I should have gotten, but that they did it knowing d*mn well, that I had been playing a game without content additions for a year, using the C-Store during this process (hence adding money to a game, that was basically on life support at the time).

    Maybe it's too elaborate for you to understand, but while the matter may seem trivial, the symbolism is not.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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