=/\= Suricata's STO Season 10 star chart wallpaper =/\=

thegrandnagus1 · May 2015

Just posted on Reddit. Kudos to you Suricata!

Also:

pwesuricata wrote: »

Hey guys, for those of you who don't use reddit, you can find the various resolutions below:-

1024x768
1280x1024
1680x1050
1920x1080
2560x1440
2560x1600
3840x2160
4096x2160

I've also included a top down view with no labels for use by the wiki and UGC community:-

Unlabeled top down view

Was a lot of fun (and headaches) going back and redoing this map, more so since it's one of the pieces of work I did (along with my ship tier charts) that got me to go back to school and apply for a job to work with STO! :-)

stararmy · May 2015

Suricata does it again! I'm always impressed by his work.

gulberat · May 2015

While I won't be changing my background, I WILL definitely be saving that as soon as I get on my main computer!

pwesuricata · May 2015

Hey guys, for those of you who don't use reddit, you can find the various resolutions below:-

1024x768
1280x1024
1680x1050
1920x1080
2560x1440
2560x1600
3840x2160
4096x2160

I've also included a top down view with no labels for use by the wiki and UGC community:-

Unlabeled top down view

Was a lot of fun (and headaches) going back and redoing this map, more so since it's one of the pieces of work I did (along with my ship tier charts) that got me to go back to school and apply for a job to work with STO! :-)

mustrumridcully0 · May 2015

Nice stuff.

Is Romulas a star system or an error?

organicmanfred · May 2015

I want this for a poster above my bed. So it can replace the picture with Taco.. ahm I mean Dr. Joyce Brothers.

erei1 · May 2015

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

Nice stuff.

Is Romulas a star system or an error?

Seems it's an error, because it's at the same place Romulus is in game.

Also, in the system list, there are no error, it's correctly spelled Romulus.

Can you correct it Suricata ? It's Romulus, not Romulas

Anyway, nice job and everything !

redshirtthefirst · May 2015

Suri, awesome job on that chart!

Just a question, I seem to notice that Romulan Republic space is in Federation blue, so is Defera space? Coloration over space toward DS9 and Bajor seem undefined...

Otherwise, it looks great!

chalpen · May 2015

Is this the same suri that has always done the ship star pictures?
He is an employee?

pwesuricata · May 2015

erei1 wrote: »

Seems it's an error, because it's at the same place Romulus is in game.

Also, in the system list, there are no error, it's correctly spelled Romulus.

Can you correct it Suricata ? It's Romulus, not Romulas

Anyway, nice job and everything !

Correct, it's a typing error that sneaked in, will fix it for the next version that is released :-)

redshirtthefirst wrote: »

Suri, awesome job on that chart!

Just a question, I seem to notice that Romulan Republic space is in Federation blue, so is Defera space? Coloration over space toward DS9 and Bajor seem undefined...

Otherwise, it looks great!

I originally had the Romulan Republic as a cyan colour but somewhere in the process I colour balanced the blue and it merged the areas to be almost unrecognizable, I'll try to get a more distinct border in that area in the next version. In general I didn't want to make the borders to obvious or defined though since there are so many disputes over what space is owned by what faction (both by the fans, and the factions in the series!).

szim · May 2015

Absolutely beautiful work like always. Thanks Suricata!

pwesuricata · May 2015

chalpen wrote: »

Is this the same suri that has always done the ship star pictures?
He is an employee?

Yup, I'm the Suri that did the original ship and star charts. I've been working at PWE for a little over a year now in the European office ;-)

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chalpen · May 2015

pwesuricata wrote: »

Yup, I'm the Suri that did the original ship and star charts. I've been working at PWE for a little over a year now in the European office ;-)

Well...wow. Ok.
I didn't get the memo. Good job.

ryugasirius · May 2015

EDIT: forgot about greek upper/lower case, sorry :P

pwesuricata · May 2015

ryugasirius wrote: »

Uhh... am I the only one with OCD who noticed Alpha and Beta quadrants are "A" and "B", while Delta quadrant is properly a "Δ"? :P

I used uppercase Greek alphabet to keep the Δ from the expansion logo, if I'd used lowercase it would of been α β and δ

amezuki · May 2015

pwesuricata wrote: »

Unlabeled top down view

Was a lot of fun (and headaches) going back and redoing this map, more so since it's one of the pieces of work I did (along with my ship tier charts) that got me to go back to school and apply for a job to work with STO! :-)

I cannot even begin to adequately thank you for the top-down unlabeled version. I was going to ask if you had that very thing. It will be invaluable for creating Tour the Galaxy maps.

Since you are already revising the map to correct the Romulan colors, is there any chance you could post a variant of the top-down version which retains the system/POI icons, but unlabeled? I can re-add the systems manually for making a Tour map, but that is not only a huge undertaking but has a significant risk of introducing error, and I'm guessing you probably have those segregated onto their own layer.

ryugasirius · May 2015

pwesuricata wrote: »

I used uppercase Greek alphabet to keep the Δ from the expansion logo, if I'd used lowercase it would of been α β and δ

Yep, i just forgot the Δ was actually uppercase! Sorry, i'm dumb

pwesuricata · May 2015

amezuki wrote: »

I cannot even begin to adequately thank you for the top-down unlabeled version. I was going to ask if you had that very thing. It will be invaluable for creating Tour the Galaxy maps.

You're most welcome, I've worked with some sites and wikis in the past and know how much time a blank image can save!

amezuki wrote: »

Since you are already revising the map to correct the Romulan colors, is there any chance you could post a variant of the top-down version which retains the system/POI icons, but unlabeled? I can re-add the systems manually for making a Tour map, but that is not only a huge undertaking but has a significant risk of introducing error, and I'm guessing you probably have those segregated onto their own layer.

The file setup is quite 'fun'. I have a warp applied to a smart object of the top down view to get the isometric effect, the systems names and stars themselves float above that layer and as such don't align with the un-warped layer. in earlier versions I had the systems on their lollipops to further push the 3d effect, but it got too confusing so I dropped it, but the layer structure remained the same.

If you are making an interactive map I'd recommend using the version i supplied with an overlay of the ingame map on it for aligning everything, then just replace it with the clean version once everything is in place.

rifter1969 · May 2015

Suricata...

WOW!!!

This is absolutely amazing!!!!

I still remember your ship charts form when the game started.

Thank-you for sharing your amazing talent and skills with us again!

welcome2earf · May 2015

Excellent work, Suri! Now back to work updating the starship chart! :P

amezuki · May 2015

pwesuricata wrote: »

The file setup is quite 'fun'. I have a warp applied to a smart object of the top down view to get the isometric effect, the systems names and stars themselves float above that layer and as such don't align with the un-warped layer. in earlier versions I had the systems on their lollipops to further push the 3d effect, but it got too confusing so I dropped it, but the layer structure remained the same.

I figured you were using some sort of texture-mapping trick like that to get the 3D effect, but I didn't realize the POIs were baked into the warped version. Funny thing--I was going to suggest a lollipop variant for the iso view, as I think if done right it would really help visualize navigation between POIs on different Z indices. But you said it didn't work well, and you're the design expert here.

If you are making an interactive map I'd recommend using the version i supplied with an overlay of the ingame map on it for aligning everything, then just replace it with the clean version once everything is in place.

I had considered doing exactly that in Tableau, but without precise data about the XY locations of systems I'm still talking about a ton of hand placement of marks to get the coordinates. Oh well--time to roll up my sleeves. XD I'll just pull the POI icons out of the game assets.

Thanks again for the resource!

Edit: come to think of it, is there a record or spreadsheet anywhere with the XYZ coords of the systems?

pwesuricata · May 2015

amezuki wrote: »

I figured you were using some sort of texture-mapping trick like that to get the 3D effect, but I didn't realize the POIs were baked into the warped version. Funny thing--I was going to suggest a lollipop variant for the iso view, as I think if done right it would really help visualize navigation between POIs on different Z indices. But you said it didn't work well, and you're the design expert here.

I had considered doing exactly that in Tableau, but without precise data about the XY locations of systems I'm still talking about a ton of hand placement of marks to get the coordinates. Oh well--time to roll up my sleeves. XD I'll just pull the POI icons out of the game assets.

Thanks again for the resource!

Edit: come to think of it, is there a record or spreadsheet anywhere with the XYZ coords of the systems?

The problem with the lollipop idea is that some systems look like they are in the sectors above them if they are near the border, which can get confusing

I literally used the technique I described using overlaid screenshots of the ingame maps at super high res, I don't have any X,Y coordinate lists sadly, that would be something that maybe Taco would have access to.. And yeah, it took a fair amount of time! The co-ordinate grid system list alone took about 5-6 hours of typing and cross checking systems!

amezuki · May 2015

pwesuricata wrote: »

The problem with the lollipop idea is that some systems look like they are in the sectors above them if they are near the border, which can get confusing

Yeah, and even the "flat" version has that issue to a small extent. What you describe is an intrinsic problem with any static three-dimensional visualization of data.

If I had the full set of 3D coordinates, what I might do is import the map into Sketchup at a scale of perhaps 1m=1LY, and manually place the lollipops. That way the map could be freely rotated in three dimensions.

Anyway, no matter what I come up with, it's bound to be an improvement over this hideous thing that I TRIBBLE together for brainstorming routes: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-NsN7mGJemFVXJpdi1CYmhsam8/view

truemalevolence · May 2015

That looks beautiful, if only that passive colour hue persisted though the new sector space

kagasensei · May 2015

Really nice. What I thought about was a map like this, albeit with each system being colored according to their allegiance (grey for neutral/unknown). The blurry background colors make it difficult to estimate the political "borders" (2D-projected in a 3D-space, I know, but it would more closely resemble the look and feel of the Star Trek Star Charts).

dukedom01 · May 2015

pwesuricata wrote: »

[...]
I've also included a top down view with no labels for use by the wiki and UGC community:-
[...]

I just integrated it into the template where I wanted it. Thanks again.

pwesuricata · May 2015

welcome2earf wrote: »

Excellent work, Suri! Now back to work updating the starship chart! :P

Doubt I'll redo the ship charts, besides Starfish is doing a great job maintaining a set

Starfish's STO ship charts

=/\= Suricata's STO Season 10 star chart wallpaper =/\=

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