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Plasamatic Leech - Odds to get from Lock Box?

tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Current exchange prices are insane for me... I have some keys... how are the odds of getting one from a lock box?

Or should I just save up some more EC and buy? Need 1 for a new Fed DR.
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    virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    STOwiki lists it as 2.01% from the Tal Shiar box...so it's going to be extremely rare.
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    stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I think thats the general rule for most games when you want something out of a gambling/random loot box.

    Dont open up gambling boxes in the hopes that you will get that random item that you want. Instead just earn currency through normal means to buy it from the exchange or by opening gambling boxes and selling whatever is inside them (or in STOs case just sell the keys). This is pretty much what i've seen people saying in STO and SWTOR. Probably other games people say it too but those are the only two i play with gambling boxes.
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    kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Odds are you'll get nothing. Sell the keys on the exchange to get enough EC for the leach.
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    anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    tigeraries wrote: »
    Current exchange prices are insane for me... I have some keys... how are the odds of getting one from a lock box?

    Or should I just save up some more EC and buy? Need 1 for a new Fed DR.

    When I last looked, it was a little over 45 million, with the ship prize from that box being about 60 million. At that rate, the Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer will be the consolation prize from that lockbox in the foreseeable (all of those vowels in a row just looks wrong, doesn't it?) future.
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    quintarisquintaris Member Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    May the odds be ever in your favour?
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The RNG Gods are fickle. Whether you get the Plasmonic Leech or not, Cryptic profits.
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    rakija879rakija879 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    If you try your luck on the red side the chances are 100%. I know it's horrible compared to the whole 2.01 %;)
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    quintarisquintaris Member Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Better Fed than red :p
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    gonzothegreat78gonzothegreat78 Member Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    rakija879 wrote: »
    If you try your luck on the red side the chances are 100%. I know it's horrible compared to the whole 2.01 %;)

    So if i open one of these lockboxes on my klingon there will be a plasmonic leach in there? I'm just wondering because this is not the first time i've read that they are practically free on red side, and my klingon engineer needs one because hes ditching aux2bat
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    kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    gonzothegreat78 wrote: »
    So if i open one of these lockboxes on my klingon there will be a plasmonic leach in there? I'm just wondering because this is not the first time i've read that they are practically free on red side, and my klingon engineer needs one because hes ditching aux2bat

    You can't get the leach from a lockbox on the Klingon side. You need to buy the Vandal Destroyer for 1000 zen.
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    berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    gonzothegreat78 wrote: »
    So if i open one of these lockboxes on my klingon there will be a plasmonic leach in there? I'm just wondering because this is not the first time i've read that they are practically free on red side, and my klingon engineer needs one because hes ditching aux2bat

    Wait... as an Eng, you have enough power problems that you need tricks to add more?

    My first toon was an Eng, and I never had to pay any attention to power levels until I started a Tac toon.
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    gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    gonzothegreat78 wrote: »
    So if i open one of these lockboxes on my klingon there will be a plasmonic leach in there? I'm just wondering because this is not the first time i've read that they are practically free on red side, and my klingon engineer needs one because hes ditching aux2bat

    Kdf cannot get it at all from a lockbox. Instead we buy a zen ship and have one on all of our characters for the price of 10 keys.
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    olliereportolliereport Member Posts: 721
    edited May 2015
    I've opened two sets of 100 talshiar lockboxes (in the course of playing for several years)

    in the first set, zero

    in the second set, 4 (yeah 4)

    if you want one particular thing from a particular lockbox, your usually better served buying it on the exchange

    and the best quickest way to get EC is to sell keys on the exchange



    EDIT: I seldom open boxes today, I used to find it fun, now I find it a bit painful
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    lordmanzelotlordmanzelot Member Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Kurland here ...

    ... my new Fed-Delta needs the leech too :(
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    kjwashington wrote: »
    Odds are you'll get nothing. Sell the keys on the exchange to get enough EC for the leach.

    I have 2 Fed Characters that have the Leech and that's how I have done it. Playing the Random Number Lottery has just never worked for me.

    The first Leech, I just sold some keys and bought one. This was back when the Leech went for around 25M, I know it's more expensive now.

    My Delta Recruit got one because the Crafting Gods smiled on me and I made a Phaser Beam with CritDx4 that I sold for 42M EC.

    As a general rule, I only open lock boxes when I need Lobi.
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    organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I received two Plasamatics from the Locka Boxas very fasta, but then on the other hand, I opened about 50 or so boxas.
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    fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    This is why it really sucks being a new player and another example how new players have a much, much harder time than those who experienced everything bit by bit...

    Everyone of my Fed chars (~ a dozen back then) got the box when it was ~500-800k on the exchange, right after release, which meant simply running a single, 2-3 minute "battleship-grinder" foundry mission and vendoring the trash was enough to afford it.

    Nowadays, even if someone didn't totally suck at making money, it would take weeks of ingame time to accomplish the same...
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    demonicaestheticdemonicaesthetic Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    olliereport wrote: »
    I've opened two sets of 100 talshiar lockboxes (in the course of playing for several years)

    in the first set, zero

    in the second set, 4 (yeah 4)

    if you want one particular thing from a particular lockbox, your usually better served buying it on the exchange

    and the best quickest way to get EC is to sell keys on the exchange



    EDIT: I seldom open boxes today, I used to find it fun, now I find it a bit painful

    That's the ironic part...

    If nobody opened gambling boxes, nobody would have the items to sell...
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    centaurianalphacentaurianalpha Member Posts: 1,150 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    how are the odds of getting one from a lock box?

    I opened 100 Tal Shiar boxes, got 2 plasmonic leech consoles; when the KDF character opens it, it becomes a "gas analyzer" console instead...

    Good Luck! :)
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    burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The way I see it is, ballparking a key at 2mil, for 35m is 17 keys - is that a statistical number of keys that guarantees a 0.2 % drop?

    Sure you have a chance at a 100m ship, ect, as well but my opinion is this - would you gamble on getting 35m+ ecs worth of sellables from 17 boxes?

    If not, you are better off buying at exchange price
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    olliereportolliereport Member Posts: 721
    edited May 2015
    demonicaesthetic wrote: »
    That's the ironic part...

    If nobody opened gambling boxes, nobody would have the items to sell...

    yeah, the people who buy the keys on the exchange do

    let them do it, unless, as someone else said, you want lobi ... or, you want to gamble

    EDIT: you have to remember with gambling, most people talk about their wins, not their losses, so you generally get a skewed picture
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    My fed engineer and my fed sci both have the leech - I bought them from the exchange for 400k ec or so. If back in the days I had bought a couple more... :P
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    kozar2kozar2 Member Posts: 602 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    burstorion wrote: »
    The way I see it is, ballparking a key at 2mil, for 35m is 17 keys - is that a statistical number of keys that guarantees a 0.2 % drop?

    Sure you have a chance at a 100m ship, ect, as well but my opinion is this - would you gamble on getting 35m+ ecs worth of sellables from 17 boxes?

    If not, you are better off buying at exchange price

    Why do assume only a ship and PL have any value? There is the 85 lobi this will generate for a start plus any other drops from the boxes. You get something in everyone. All have some value.
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