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I've been trying to find this "Iconian War" since Season 10 came out, but so far I've had no luck outside of episodes or queues. I'm seeing stories and lots of propaganda and posters, but no actual war. Sector space patrols have been pretty quiet and are void of Herald activity.
Guys, seriously, where's the fighting at? Anywhere besides Qo'noS being invaded?
Guys, seriously, where's the fighting at? Anywhere besides Qo'noS being invaded?
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USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
It would not make sense for newly created toons which starts within the STO universe in 2409 to see any traces of the Iconian War since it stats in 2410. In fact, they should be seeing some evidence of the Federation Klingon War. But there isn't any either.
Agreed , however if the questions from Geko's latest podcast outing are to believed , then they are looking to close up the war and start the "next arc" .
I don't want to prejudge , but so far it's been a numbers war ... -- as in "only a few Iconians exist" and "1/4 of the Fleet assembled to fight the Iconians has been destroyed" .
Teh war of teh Metrics !
Is that better than what we had with the Klingons ?
In terms of storytelling perhaps , but in terms of border changes and a feeling of an actual war ... -- well , as everything else with STO , this too is in the eye of the beholder .
Us "vets" have been on the Klingon / Borg front for 5 years .
Yet we may spend less than a year (perhaps even less then half a year) on the Iconian front .
Or if you shift to "in-game timeline" , then you've had 2 wars in the space of 1.5 years ... , and my bet is that the next "story arc" will be ... , you guessed it -- conflict driven .
Thus ultimately , my sad conclusion is that the most awesome part of the "Iconian War" were the posters .
... "Buy Ferengi War Bonds ! " ... . Classic ...
With the number of "episodes in the can" , there may yet be a Season 10.5 on the way .
It was also mentioned that they want to "deal with the aftermath of the Iconian War" -- so the question is when do they end it , when do they do the "aftermath" , and when do they start the new arc .
... anything is possible ... , and Cryptic may not yet know if there will be any changes from PW going private , so I'm with the "wait and see" 'tude over here ...
Not sure if that may be possible with this game, but I agree that those encounters and whatnot could be changed to Iconian encounters and red alerts showing various planetary systems and starbases being attacked by them, the ground instances can work as well since they pretty much had events springing up on Nimbus, Defera and the battlezones every so often. Would just be a matter of having them pop up on Andoria, Vulcan, etc.
All in all, it would have been nice, but its likely this was under a microscope to be done at a certain time and these things couldnt be fleshed out. Perhaps with a 10.5 update we'll see more instances that would work, but right now its about stabilizing the important things that broke and the latency issues..
I really do wish that the Devs had more time and resources to commit to this game, it shows when they really get to put the shiner on things and it shows when they dont..
At the end of the day though, I'm loving the Iconians, when they come through gateways the sound effects are epic..
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
I would rather a battleground but that is just my taste. It doesn't seem as big as the voth war.
All that tech and what do they do with it? Fight the kdf street by street on qu'nos with staffs
The Iconians had to take a hiatus on the war. After careful planning they launched their invasion. Though they missed the fact that EC, GPL, and Dilithium run the galaxy. So bare with the lull in the war as the Iconians hit the story arcs, the dabo tables, and farm for dilithium to fund their ongoing war efforts.
Can we haz their stuffs ... , errr , staffs ?
... nevermind ... , they won't be as cool anyways ...
Back when the Borg RAs were new, it really felt like a large scale invasion, especially if you followed the RA chat channels.
Its a little deflating but I guess you can fall back on DS9 for "justification." There's dominion war episodes, and then there's a lot miscellaneous hijinx going in in between. Most of what we do can probably be considered "getting on with things" while there's the odd battle on the frontlines.
Its a part of our game now, but its not the only part. That said, for being the single conflict the ENTIRE game has been leading up to the classic 3 PVE's plus episodes maybe isn't the best presentation (this should be a special time).
The least they could have done (with no effort required whatsoever) would have been to occasionally spawn the odd herald in an random sector encounter. There's your "war on an every-day basis" right there, especially if for the duration of season 10 herald encounters were the only ones offered.
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While DS9 didn't outright show the Dominion War in every episode, you can still see the atmosphere of the station is on a war footing. Honestly, this season was very lackluster.
Outside of the new episodes and STFs, it's like the big war that they've been hyping for years now, and continue to hype, might as well not exist.
Here's hoping that they have plans to flesh out the Iconian war a bit more outside of just future feature episodes, and they simply ran out of time to get it all implemented by Season 10....
But, yeah, the Heralds appear very weak, even in Advanced (up to the point where you can just ignore them altogether, save for the desire to shoot at them anyway
The Federation-Klingon War depiction is the big travesty though and failure to expand and deliver on that had always been an embarrassing thing for STO, IMO.
With all this in mind, it does not surprise me that this Iconian War is also a failure. Not to mention that the Iconian War is a S10 only deal and won't bleed over into future seasons. So yes, this small brush fire will burn itself out with no satisfaction just like every other conflict did.
Starbase 234 is still there. New Romulus is as good as new.
There isn't any war going on.
We're the bad guys in this tale and up to now the Iconians along with all the other races have been chucking everything they have to stop our immense expansion. Hell we've even learned from The Borg, every new season brings new technology adapted from our victi....um, enemies...so we can carry on being the most powerful and lethal empires in the galaxy.
See? Truth man.
We should thank the Iconians for showing us another galaxy to conquer. Soon we'll become the most powerful and lethal empires in the whole universe. :cool:
Waiting for Season 11: Andromeda.
Take the Fed-Klingon war for example, that's the main story when you create a new character. Even at this point you can enter "enemy" space uncontested, there are no borders, no frontlines - the episodes are really disconnected from the metagame.
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