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So... why the obsession with the game "ending" suddenly?
themarie
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Tacofangs pointed out in tweet that we have gone from asking What's Next after a season launches to demanding to know what the plans are for the NEXT season.
Why are we doing this? A good number of people in the various chats I frequent in-game see the Iconian War season as "the last season" and are adamant that the game is closing down sometime after the season launches.
Most conversations consist of "not buying any T-6 content or keys for Iconian boxes because the game is slated to shut down at the conclusion of this season."
First of all, I need to see some actual proof. Second, why would the game suddenly end after the launch of a season? And third, if you suddenly withhold cashflow to the game it WILL close!
I've worked for companies that have changed owners and had layoffs and are still around churning out product and services. I don't see PW's trouble as a sign, nor do I worry about the 'layoffs.' In fact since the last changing of the guard (new Big Boss) certain bugs have been stomped on, and there has been an increase in communication. Don't believe me? Look at twitter, Dev posts and so forth.
Since I joined this game all the way back at the end of Beta, people have been crying "oh woe the game is on the verge of shutting down." Every time there is a hiccup, every time there is a glitch, and every time there is a news-post about corporate.
So out with it, STO-ers. Why do we as a fanbase have this morbid insistence that the game is constantly on the verge of failure and ruin... why are we all so convinced (since season 4) that the game is one more release away from shutdown?
Why are we doing this? A good number of people in the various chats I frequent in-game see the Iconian War season as "the last season" and are adamant that the game is closing down sometime after the season launches.
Most conversations consist of "not buying any T-6 content or keys for Iconian boxes because the game is slated to shut down at the conclusion of this season."
First of all, I need to see some actual proof. Second, why would the game suddenly end after the launch of a season? And third, if you suddenly withhold cashflow to the game it WILL close!
I've worked for companies that have changed owners and had layoffs and are still around churning out product and services. I don't see PW's trouble as a sign, nor do I worry about the 'layoffs.' In fact since the last changing of the guard (new Big Boss) certain bugs have been stomped on, and there has been an increase in communication. Don't believe me? Look at twitter, Dev posts and so forth.
Since I joined this game all the way back at the end of Beta, people have been crying "oh woe the game is on the verge of shutting down." Every time there is a hiccup, every time there is a glitch, and every time there is a news-post about corporate.
So out with it, STO-ers. Why do we as a fanbase have this morbid insistence that the game is constantly on the verge of failure and ruin... why are we all so convinced (since season 4) that the game is one more release away from shutdown?
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I don't know why people are saying this is the last season. I don't understand why people are saying this. Is it because we've been building up to the Iconian war? Yay! It's here! I bet we can get a few good seasons out of the war before it finally comes to a close. Frankly, I'd be surprised if the war did end after only one season. But for why everyone is saying the game is doomed? It's always the case. Alot of doom and naysayers on the forums, cos alot of the folk who enjoy the game are busy actually playing the game.
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PWE rarely.. rarely closes down a game.For example, Champions online is still kept open and active, despite a very small player base. This game has NOTHING to worry about... it's one of their top money makers. Why in the world would they close it down.
Because it needs to be repeated. This has been going on since the Atari meltdown/PW buyout.
I highly doubt it will be. Season 11-12'll be the end of the Iconian story, but there's still many more faces to punch: the Borg haven't gotten a fair shake in quite a long time and there's still many other threats out there.
I've seen comments from Trendy that STO is one of their top three games (PWE, not just Cryptic).
I don't think we need to worry about the game ending.
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The Iconians have been a looming threat on the horizion for a long time. And if the war with them is finally happening, that obviously suggests to some people that maybe the story STO is telling is coming to its conclusion, and thus the game.
Of course... There are always ways to add more. The Iconians may seem to be behind a lot so far, but that doesn't mean there won't be other things to worry about.
The Dominion, the Borg, the Undine. They are all still out there. Even if the Iconian threats halts all "internal" conflict for a while - ending it doesn't mean we're going to all sing happy songs around the camp fire. The next crisis will present itself.
The game certainly hasn't run out of potential story to tell, since it's Star Trek. But the big threat "Iconians" is kinda blocking sight on that, at least for some people.
also lack of imagination. we've built towards this epic confrontation for over 5 years.. people have a hard time seeing passed what they understand..
If you look back, the Iconians were always sort of in the background as a potentially sinister force, but they weren't too big of a consideration, and they certainly weren't regarded as major threat. I would say that they did a great job at selling this new story line, but before season 9.5 I never really considered them to be an ultimate challenge.
But as with all Star Trek episodes, there is always another episode and a new challenge. I for one, don't believe that resolving the Iconian war will necessarily mean the end of the adventure. If the alliance was taking on the Q continuum, I'd be worried.
Another factor that may be in the players psyche is the way that all Star Trek series end between 3-7 seasons.
It's a combination of wanting to move on, and just seeing things are falling into place as a good ending point... but to something even better, a STO 2.0 if you will... extending more seasons on this engine... it felt a bit outdated even when it first came out to be honest with you
So the Iconians are the main threat in the game and yet now that they appear (after 5 bloody years) they can not appear?.. So when do you want them to appear?.. 2050?
This is a video game, this is all about the imagination.
Once the Iconians are beaten, PVE/Cryptic will come out with another force that maybe enslaved the Iconians or were the ones that gave the Iconians the technology they have or whatever. It is very easy to keep a game going story-wise especially when $$$$ is involved.
This isn't the end, stop being silly.
Play STO or a game that is far worse than STO without any hope of exploration or the other elements that make Star Trek great. Tough choice.
Just throwing this here for you resident conspirators. :rolleyes:
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A few reasons come to mind :
- Ppl having trouble imagining a greater foe then the Iconians .
(see " too much hype for way too long" for more info)
- Cryptic is riding the "power sells" pony for all it's worth lately , without giving ppl the time needed to get bored with their latest toy .
(some companies do that before they close up shop / shut down an MMO)
- Usual jitters before an uncertain time .
(in the last two years we knew that the game was heading toward Romulan / Delta Quadrant content / expansions . Right now with the Iconians everything is a bit vauge , and S.10 is a bit slim on the content side from what we know of it so far)
Actually, following that pattern shouldn't season 14 be return of the jedi? :rolleyes: If so, then I am really looking forward to finally getting a nanopulse edge Tsunkatse Falchion.
The next "Big Bad" doesn't have to be iconian related at all.
The way people are acting its like there is nowhere to go after the iconian war. As many others have pointed out, Iconian's aren't all Star trek has to offer, not to mention something completely new to the universe.
This is like saying, once WW2 ended, the world stopped spinning. Last time I checked, it didn't
Maybe the iconians are just a faction in it HMMM, HMMMMMMMMM?
They've also thrown us from event to event, which normally is good for me, but burnout's also setting in. It also feels a LOT different from say, Marvel Heroes' weekly events, where you feel like you can hop in any time, get stuff, and go. Here, it's usually a daily login for 2-3 weeks in order to get your one shiny at the end, and that wears you down, and I'm not even getting into having more than one character.
It also feels like they're desperately trying hard to keep metrics and concurrency up around the clock to look better on paper to the PWE mothership, and having seen a few games do that, it's kind of a scary place to be for both devs and players.
Good question, OP.
On the flip side (playing devils advocate), the event runs could be because they do have more people playing, and they are trying to keep it that way.
I would think if they are close to shutting down, they wouldn't be hiring new voice actors, and creating new story content
Holy moley. First time I've seen that. It means the end of Sto for sure.
Then there's of course the haters who have been chanting doom for ages. Because they are "the vast majority of the playerbase" and will all leave any day now if the devs don't give them everything they want.
And I'd imagine there's even some poor newbies that actually believe the above groups are right. Because they read it on the internet, and the internet doesn't lie. Right?
:rolleyes:
Most already have.
First the Iconians have been built up to be the final dungeon boss of the game. Period. Then you have the events over lapping and prizes tossed out so fast that is seems like someone is trying to milk the cow before it gets lead to slaughter.
Coupled with the rumour that the license is up in 2016.
That gives just under eight months to finish everything up and settle things.
Now with these negatives you have word out that there are storyboards out for post season 10. Storyboards are not a signature saying you are certain to be able to stick around.
The game makes money. So did City of Heroes, so did Tabula Rasa, and I am sure others can point out games making a profit that were still closed down.
Am I saying STO is doomed? No.
Will it be shut down? Eventually.
But I can be afraid of that coming. Can't I?
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