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  • g0vawkg0vawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Why do I want the planet?

    Why is the population opposed to me?

    ~To be short, if the enemy can't transport their ordinance, they can't fight.
    I'd just destroy their means of transporting any destructive payload.

    Let the population live as they have.
    If the planet is earth sized a population of 10 million is likely in one large city or very, very dispersed around the planet, so they can be ignored for the most part.

    As for the spaceships and shipyard, it would seem they have a very nascent space program so having early 25th century Federation/Klingon/Romulan technology at my disposal would mean I could ignore their ships for the most part.
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    Words and actions may be judged, but motives?

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  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    "hello Q? yes, i need you to do something for me..."
  • kimonykimony Member Posts: 571 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    My invasion blueprint: the Twilight Zone episode: "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"

    #SaucersForever #TrianglesCutDeep #TeamBeta #ShipOneisNumberOne
  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Define “taking over” a planet.

    If one is technologically superior then a show of force could bring the current world leaderships to their knees. However, this would also give rise to pockets of resistance which could eventually undermine your authority or even dethrone you.

    I would go about it a slightly different way: collect genetic samples of the sentient life and begin a cloning process, accelerated aging and fed the information/instructions you desire. Send them back to the planet to mingle in with the inhabitants, mingle with their culture and for all sense and purpose be completely ignorant of the fact they are genetically farmed sleeper agents with subliminal desires to take positions in infrastructure, policing and leadership. Once your agents are in position, flip the switch and let havoc reign.

    It’s not as flashy or as instantly gratifying as an orbital strike but it has a greater potential for a long and comfortable dictatorship. All without ever leaving the comfort of your own ship LOL

    Yeah, it's necro'd but still fun...
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    wow old thread lol
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  • chandlerasharichandlerashari Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited April 2015
  • sarreoussarreous Member Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Scenario 1

    Depending on the technological gap, infiltrate their society and start up a business selling "new and innovative" products. Over time create a series of companies within various widespread markets. If possible get some agents close to their politicians or take office themselves. Given enough time my operatives should be able to gain enough influence throughout the planet's societies that I can start to manipulate the direction of this world. As long as most of the citizens aren't gullible enough to fall for the "our world is run by lizard men" theory, what could go wrong?

    In the case of the plan falling completely apart transporters are on standby. Hopefully I'll have the command codes to the defending ships in the case that my years of carefully placed bribes are conveniently forgotten. Don't have command codes? Then one of my subordinates has failed me and will be punished accordingly if we make it out.

    Scenario 2

    Assuming that my awesome ship and incredible tactical skills are able to subdue the defending ships, basically turn the world into a version of Last of Us minus the infection. But convince the people that there is an infection and that they need to stay within the quarantine zones. If they become skeptical and start leaving the qz's, have devices set up to "infect" those who venture out too far with something. Or make use of holograms to reinforce the ruse and cut down on needless casualties. There will likely be a lot of trial and error early on.

    With careful planning, each population center will only expand and advance as I see fit. They will only establish communications with each other when and how I decide. If conflicts break out they will be resolved in whatever way I believe best suits my goals.

    Scientists of questionable ethics will be brought into this so that they may monitor and study the behaviors of the population under these strenuous conditions. Some centers may be allowed to recover and rise up more quickly than others. Others will be held back. Most will be allowed to progress at their own pace assuming they don't exceed certain thresholds.

    When all is said and done civilization will eventually be restored. Ultimately it will be my people who take up positions of power. Ideally they will be familiar to and trusted by most after spending much of their own time "stranded" on the planet.

    Their world will be my empire and they will be none the wiser. It won't last forever of course, but even afterwards my influence on their society will be seen everywhere.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    <sigh> A necro thread and nobody noticed.

    Precious little entertainment around here these days.

    Incidentally, my plan is quite straightforward.

    1) replicate tons of powerful laxatives
    2) dose all the drinking water
    3) sabotage all water treatment facilities
    4) wait 24 hours

    Everyone would be incapacitated. If not stuck on the bowl then the smell alone would be enough.
  • sanctusmortisanctusmorti Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I would perform the Kirk gambit.

    1) Seduce thousands of hot aliens, who seem smart up to the point when they fall for my slightly chunky overacting Captain.

    2) Bow-chica-wow-wow

    3) Breed them out.
  • ussdelphin2ussdelphin2 Member Posts: 525 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Drop out of warp with my jemhadar carrier, launch my bug ships and take out the defending fleet, orbital bombard any power supplies and jam communication planet wide, beam down 1 communicator with a direct link to me and sit and wait for their surrender.
    How I picture a lot of the forumites :P
  • voivodjevoivodje Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Seems most has been dicussed here, for me, it depends on who you ask: The Fed, the Klink, the Romulan... or the Borg.

    Let's get back to Locutus, Best of Both Worlds: Albeit that JLP was considered a prime tactucus, he made the mistake of his life leading the Borg there to Wolf 359.
    Instead of nuking the fleet into oblivion, he had to simply arrive, and start transporting Borg Drones per the thousand to each vessel.
    A cube holds appx from 5000 to 130.000 drones, and the Borg can tranport up to I thought 10.000 drones simultaneously.

    Now, per ship 1000 drones should render each vessel crippled instantly (combat on board the ship), the drones would be told to not kill a single individual, but to assimilate each and every individual, thus strengthening the Borg attack once each vessel has been assimilated.
    I'd simply turn the enemy's fleet against their own.

    Having assimilated all knowledge of all vessels, the actual invasion would start: beginning by killing ALL possible forms of communication, assimilating the smallest of towns (thus again strengthening the army, leaving not a single individual out, making strength in numbers), working the way up.

    From the smallest towns we'd go to medium sized towns, large towns, small cities... well you get the picture.

    By the way, this is how the Borg would actually work, being "tactical superior thinking", they would not destroy, but amass uber armies through assimilation.
    Sadly, the Borg were over all encounters rendered from a literal super villain (Q Who), to mere kittens in Voyager.
    Where in the first instance a perfect "warrior" ... species? (species is incorrect here), that had super anything to failed puppets (Voyager and beyond).

    Also, their logic has become flawed of the time, and damned often there is contradiction about the Borg throughout all series.

    But, to speak with the words of the creators: The Borg were so powerful, it was not easy to come up with solutions for beating them.
    And thus they tuned this "villain" down to a faulty toaster type cyborgs....

    Sad, but true...
  • voivodjevoivodje Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Addendum:
    I'm not sure why the Borg finally did what they did, but if they were truly interested in assimilating our quadrant, we would not have stood a chance.
    The Borg had assimilated species that had things like personal cloaking devices, ship cloaking devices, and even if you took the dumbest of all unit, he would see the tactical advantage of these systems.
    Not to mention the plethora of defensive and offensive systems the Borg had.
    Untill the end of the Voyager series, only 1 species was told to be immune to assimilation, the Undine.
    Later series began to tell that other species proved to be a challenge to be assimilated (Hirogen comes to mind), but as with all the changes over time about the Borg, I personally consider these... ridiculous.
    To me, only the first type Borg are the true ones.

    But, that's me.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    the scenario is too simplistic. What is the goal? To capture something, you must defend it afterwards, and also during the attack if the enemy can call for help.

    There are multiple ways to capture, from extreme hostility to keeping the target intact. For extreme hostility, you kill everyone with any authority and replace them with your own people, and you destroy anything that you cannot control (example, hand weapons production facility or police forces). You seize control of the food sources and force the populace to submit or starve. For the intact/nice approach, you just collect a tribute/tax (could be in goods/services) and leave things pretty much as they were so long as there are no incidents, but any rebellion is met by extreme force and martial law threats etc.

    And anything in between the two extremes is possible.
  • voivodjevoivodje Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Irrelevant.
    There's only one goal: to assimilate all and everything.

    That is, if my Borg was speaking.
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