test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Convert Universal Boff seats to True Universal Boff seating
jovoloro
Member Posts: 24 Arc User
I wanted to see how many of you trekkers feel that the old universal boff seats need to allow true universal seating (intelligence, command, and this new pilot).
* It wouldn`t be game breaking, cause weve all seen many forms of that already.
(Cryptic earn Money)
* It would restore some value to old lockbox ships.
(Cryptic earns Money)
* It would give an incentive to purchase said old lockbox ships.
(Cryptic earns Money)
* As far as I know it would be a simple change to make for the devs.
(happier playerbase)(an cryptic earns money)
As far as I can see, its a win - win for us and cryptic.
What do you guys think?
* It wouldn`t be game breaking, cause weve all seen many forms of that already.
(Cryptic earn Money)
* It would restore some value to old lockbox ships.
(Cryptic earns Money)
* It would give an incentive to purchase said old lockbox ships.
(Cryptic earns Money)
* As far as I know it would be a simple change to make for the devs.
(happier playerbase)(an cryptic earns money)
As far as I can see, its a win - win for us and cryptic.
What do you guys think?
Post edited by jovoloro on
0
Comments
Otherwise, it is indeed about generating interest in the new T6 ships and, by doing so, revenue...
If any ship with a universal seat could have the new hotness spec how would they sell you the old layout with the new seat?
Views and Opinions May Not Reflect the Views and Opinions of Gearbox/Cryptic
Moderation Problems/Issues? Please contact the Community Manager
Terms of Service / Community Rules and Policies / FCT
Facebook / Twitter / Twitch
Ex: BOPs on the klink side allow a specific ensign or liutenant boff slot to use any specialization. The rest could remain old universal. This would allow for some newness in old ships. Without being game breaking.
Easy.
Allow T5U ships with "Universal" BOff stations to slot a single, Lt or below, BOff with the a specialization.
Have it also be limited by tokens. Want Intel seating? Have to buy an Intel token. Want Command seating? Buy a Command token. No mixing and matching.
T6 ships are then still desirable because of Traits, 1 extra BOff ability, and access to LtC and higher SpecBOff abilities.
Cryptic then also makes a good chunk of cash by people spending money on tokens ships they already have/spent money on, lessening the need for extra work to be put into designing new ships.
This is why it is doubtful, we would ever see this anytime soon!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Cryptic will never do it because Intelligence, Command and "pilot" are the exclusive to T6 starships as an incentive for players to purchase those ships.
I think it can be easily balanced even on the All-Universal BOP. On the BOP the restrictions can be something like this for a supposed T6 Bird of Prey BOFF arrangement:
All Universals
Cmdr - Hybrid
LtCdr
LtCdr - The T6 +1 improvement
Lt - Hybrid
12 total BOFF skill slots at T6 compared to 11 at T5/T5U for Non-Fleet Norgh BOPs at that tier.
Cryptic proved they can set Hybrid restrictions even on Universals as they did with the JHSS.
Maybe some hybrid seats, where the same boff seat can support intel/command or intel/pilot or any mixture, just to promote flexibility?
If Cryptic still wants to prioritize Originals, they can too. Let the Originals and eventual T6 Flagships be full UniSpec (turn the Universal seats on the Flagships to Hybrid Universal/UniSpec seats).
Then they could just restrict some T6 revamps of other existing ships to 2-3 specializations. So Intel/Command on the Pathfinder, Command/Pilot on possible Galaxy, and Pilot/Intel on a possible Defiant, for example.
Even if they separated originals from existing T5 ships (maybe excluding the Flagships) as far as true UniSpec seating goes, they would make more money altogether, as players will not feel insulted that they have to always buy a new ship just to use the newest Specialization. As well, they can feel comfort at buying their preferred ship and know it's at least flexible enough to work with future Specializations, and only have to spend further money on the Cmdr Hybrid level ships that they do want to invest in for one reason or another.
Say worst case... T5U BOP any flavor.. generally Commander, Lt Comander, 2 LT's. and maybe an ensign. Ok, true universal seats..
Great,.... thats still ONLY a total of 12 crew skills .. and for every intel/command/piloting skill ya slot in, you loose a "normal" (read old) skill.. I'm sure it'll be fun for a few moments,, but some of them regular crew skills are pretty usefull still. You might play with 'em a bit.. but most likely it won't last. a wise player will want to keep themselves a tad more balanced.
And there is no way it'll make PvP any worse.. not when there are vap builds out there.
Command seating though doesn't make it a command ship, or an intel ship.. the T-6 ships have some pretty special abilities...
but true universal seats would but some powder back in the pistol for BOP's... they're still phenominally fragile and nothing is going to change that.
I bet they will do something like that eventually a year or two down the road. First all players getting new ships because of this mechanic will be milked dry.
Enjoy your ships everybody.
Looking for a fun PvE fleet? Join us at Omega Combat Division today.
The reason for Tier 6 is to give everyone an incentive to buy new ships.
The reason for BO specializations is to give everyone an incentive to buy new ships, and keep buying them, as now specializations open up and require different ships.
Creating new Tier 5 ships was at an end - not only have practically all canon factions ships been added, practically all useful BO combinations were already owned.
A new ship tier coupled with specializations opens up a much larger number of BO combinations that could be interesting.
But making "Universal" also "Specialist" seats would be bad.
The Klingon Bird of Prey with its all universal seating would overnight become the ultimate ship, since it would be able to build optimal combinatons of the powers, without any issues regarding shared cooldowns anymore, cherry-picking the best for practically every slot.
And every ship with Universal slots would suddenly occupy the design space Tier 6 ships would fill, directly competing with them.
Overall, there would be less incentive to buy new ships.
Then let's just rename them "Generalist" seats.
You can't predict the results.
New lockbox ships earns them money.
The incentive is if you like the ship.
You know Cryptic's engine code? I doubt it.
It's a win for people who can't seem to move on beyond T5. How about you lose all the Upgrades on your T5 & just get the Universal seating? T5Us got a large buff to keep them competitive, now you want more? You need to give up something & I doubt you really would. I can already see the rage threads.
TL: DR- FCT this entitlement style thread finally.
The majority of people responding will be largely positive as multiple players in love with a current lockbox style ship will happily shell out the time and effort necessary to get their baby up to tier 6. And you will see multiple ships issued constantly while playing.
Complaints about how unfair it is for players to have to grind up the same lockbox ship will be met with the same responses that were given to JHAS ship owners. If you bought it when it first came out, then you had a good run in that ship, it's still viable for end game advanced content, but you couldn't expect it to last forever. In fact, be happy that they are supporting our desire to keep using that ship in Tier-6, alot of those dedicated to lockbox ships have to make due with T5U. But if you bought it recently, then why did you spend 70 to 125 million energy credits on an already eclipsed ship when 3k zen gets you a better ship capable of using the new end game specialization mechanics?
Imagine this with almost full pilot and intel fitted in those universal boff slots.
I know i would get that ship in an instant.
2. This will happen after the Specialization system has matured and the initial growth spurt -- a new Spec in every update -- is over.
3. Before Uni Spec stations, we will see more ships like the JHSS, with multiple different specific Spec stations.
4. Whether we see Universal stations with a specific Spec (Uni/Intel, Uni/Command, etc) before or after the specific boff station with a Uni Spec (Tac/Uni, Eng/Uni, Sci/Uni), your guess is as good as mine. My guess is the former would come first, but t's a coin toss.
5. Universal/Universal stations will be the last of them all, after all other options have been thorougly exhausted.
6. Existing ships will not be changed at any point.
How about that without all-Universal slots*, but in a nice 3-pack, one for Command, one for Intel, and one for Pilot?
Just an idea.
*) Definitely means: Universal cannot carry any type of specialization. Possibly means some previously Universal slots are turned into Tactical, Engineering or Science slots.