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meldrithpw
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I know this has been touched on before, but i just wanted to throw it out there again.
ground mission stuff: love the disintegration graphic, but it occurs to me, that i've never seen one of my boffs get disintegrated. (hm, that's odd, i wonder why?)
so here's the idea: on elite and advanced maps, let the boffs get disintegrated at the same rate as Mobs; disintegrated boffs (with all their equipment) are actually disintegrated--gone, no kneel and patch 'em up, no respawn, just gone.
One of the things that gets me about boffs is that they're so common that they're cheaper than doffs on the exchange. This problem has been largely decreased by the padd system, (thx devs) or at least to the point that they're not cheaper than tribbles anymore, but i still think it's not enough. If there was a risk of actually losing that redshirt in a battle, it should really buff the value of good boffs.
I mean really, a highly trained astronaut is less on the exchange than a janitor? something just doesn't feel right about it.
And for storyline, though i was devastated at the death of Tasha Yar--(love Denise Crosby,) it did serve as a reminder that bridge officers, like The Doctor's companions, (R.I.P. Adric,) are mortal.
Other mechanics that should yeild boff deaths: too many internal injuries and space combat.
in space combat, aside from all the attacks that decrease 'alive' crew, (which should kill off boffs by a percentage chance = #of boffs/#of ships complement) those attacks that disable crew should pile injuries on boffs at the same rate. crit hits should have a similar chance of killing or wounding (disabling) them off too, making their highly trained skills unavailble till you can find someone to replace them.
ground mission stuff: love the disintegration graphic, but it occurs to me, that i've never seen one of my boffs get disintegrated. (hm, that's odd, i wonder why?)
so here's the idea: on elite and advanced maps, let the boffs get disintegrated at the same rate as Mobs; disintegrated boffs (with all their equipment) are actually disintegrated--gone, no kneel and patch 'em up, no respawn, just gone.
One of the things that gets me about boffs is that they're so common that they're cheaper than doffs on the exchange. This problem has been largely decreased by the padd system, (thx devs) or at least to the point that they're not cheaper than tribbles anymore, but i still think it's not enough. If there was a risk of actually losing that redshirt in a battle, it should really buff the value of good boffs.
I mean really, a highly trained astronaut is less on the exchange than a janitor? something just doesn't feel right about it.
And for storyline, though i was devastated at the death of Tasha Yar--(love Denise Crosby,) it did serve as a reminder that bridge officers, like The Doctor's companions, (R.I.P. Adric,) are mortal.
Other mechanics that should yeild boff deaths: too many internal injuries and space combat.
in space combat, aside from all the attacks that decrease 'alive' crew, (which should kill off boffs by a percentage chance = #of boffs/#of ships complement) those attacks that disable crew should pile injuries on boffs at the same rate. crit hits should have a similar chance of killing or wounding (disabling) them off too, making their highly trained skills unavailble till you can find someone to replace them.
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I've put too much time and effort into getting my crew how I want it to risk losing it to the RNG.
The loss of plot armor should apply to EVERYONE. :P
I actually LIKE that idea....but i've got so many alts it's hard to cycle through them all in a day....
but...since the pc is the central character in any given player's personal story, i don't think it would work. The hero never dies permanently, except in early 1970s movies, or at the end of the story to complete their quest.
It's one thing to design, build, and promote a game with permanent loss mechanics in mind. That's fine. As long as people coming in to play understand that. But changing the game AFTER it goes live with permanent loss mechanics, esp STO that has been around FIVE YEARS without such a thing is a bad move.
People in this game freak out that NPCs actually might do something. Now you want to have stuff permanently lost?
cryptic logic maybe wierd, but at least they never added that nonsensical element in the game.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
That is why I always bring the Voth boff along. He self revives.
U.S.S. Tempest
They would introduce clones for zen to compensate.
Exclusive to Elite Ground. Your Boffs, if they reach zero, will emergency beam out as they're collapsing instead of actually lay there unconscious and will not return. To reclaim them, you must wait an hour and visit the Medbay on any ship or station, and reclaim them.
During that time, you will not be able to use the Boffs in ground or space.
After all, all sides should be advanced enough for emergency ports out.
...until they decide to leave the show, at which point they're one-shot by A) tar or
Ah... the usual... I'm a faux hardcore player... so we need a mechanic in place to make everyone play like me routine.
But it's simple to do... .everytime you finish a combat and one of your BO lays dead on the ground... you need to delete them... permanently... including all their gear... immediately
When you get blown up in space.... delete that Captain... immediately... no transfer of gear.... nothing... exit... menu... delete Captain...
Captain dies on ground and you BOffs don't rez you before the end of combat... same thing...
Take you all of 5 seconds to do it that way... and no one would have to suffer through your idea of "everyone needs to play the way I do".
When it's that easy to delete a BOff or a Captain... there is no need for a mechanic to do it for you... stop being lazy and just do it.
And what she said, if you really want an Iron Man mode in STO :
How's about NO?!
^This.
If anything you're idea would devalue boffs and gear because people would stop buying boffs with superior traits and they would stop buying good gear for them, even people with the best gear die sometimes.
can't get rid of his whiney a** no matter what you do.
I'd agree with them being beamed up to the medbay, and another, random, boff taking their place.
Plus it would give BOFF ranks a purpose again after they made them all have all of their ground skills and space skills available regardless of rank.