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meldrithpwmeldrithpw Member Posts: 360 Arc User
any chance of this? even as a purchase to play race it should be workable

i mean, the lifers can get the android boff, and now we've got apu doffs...so......
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    baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,319 Community Moderator
    edited March 2015
    meldrithpw wrote: »
    any chance of this? even as a purchase to play race it should be workable

    i mean, the lifers can get the android boff, and now we've got apu doffs...so......

    I thought this, along with endgame Constitution, was forbidden by CBS.
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    thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I thought this, along with endgame Constitution, was forbidden by CBS.

    Yes ... /10Chars
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    baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,319 Community Moderator
    edited March 2015
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Just make a toon in the character creation window and give him/her an android back story in the bio. Problem solved. They don't need to be a separate race.

    ^This /10chars
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    kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Yeah, CBS said NO.
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Havn't you asked this half a dozen times already?
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I thought this, along with endgame Constitution, was forbidden by CBS.

    you "thought" implies you dont know.

    i know that a few years ago that it was stated to be the case that CBS shot it down. they wanted the android race to be unique from what i understood.
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    baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,319 Community Moderator
    edited March 2015
    you "thought" implies you dont know.

    i know that a few years ago that it was stated to be the case that CBS shot it down. they wanted the android race to be unique from what i understood.

    Wow. Way to an an ***. But thanks for confirming that my "thought" was indeed correct. Now I "know". :rolleyes:
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    liniisanliniisan Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Yeah, CBS said NO.
    what do they care?????
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    leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    you "thought" implies you dont know.

    i know that a few years ago that it was stated to be the case that CBS shot it down. they wanted the android race to be unique from what i understood.

    Right. They said they wanted Data to be rare.

    What this might translate into is, "Playable Soong-Type Androids as a lockbox prize" if they ever iron out species respecs.
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    altechachanaltechachan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    liniisan wrote: »
    what do they care?????

    They control the license and they lay down the rules for Cryptic to use their license.
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Right. They said they wanted Data to be rare.

    What this might translate into is, "Playable Soong-Type Androids as a lockbox prize" if they ever iron out species respecs.

    Neverwinter has already done this with the Metallic Ancestry Dragonborn race in the Dragonforged Lockbox. It is an account unlock. I think you need to purchase a Race Reroll token for 1500 Zen for current characters which respecs everything on your character except for Class. Since Neverwinter and Star Trek Online supposedly use the same engine, then it should be possible for this to happen in Star Trek Online.
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    liniisanliniisan Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    They control the license and they lay down the rules for Cryptic to use their license.

    no i get that i mean what do they care if android is a playable race
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    prolegapprolegap Member Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    starkaos wrote: »
    Neverwinter has already done this with the Metallic Ancestry Dragonborn race in the Dragonforged Lockbox. It is an account unlock. I think you need to purchase a Race Reroll token for 1500 Zen for current characters which respecs everything on your character except for Class. Since Neverwinter and Star Trek Online supposedly use the same engine, then it should be possible for this to happen in Star Trek Online.


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    Oh for F... Why would it even be a technical limitation in the first place? It's just a race with a special racial trait, and some unique costume/head parts.

    The problem is that CBS has certain ideas on what's permissible to include in the game and what not. Androids other than data seem to be one of the non-permissible things, so Cryptic just can't do it.
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    mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    and i can name at least 2 instances where androids/robots have shown their faces in TOS , what are little girls made of and mudds women to name them....granted that they aren't SOONG-type androids, but some1 needs to clue cryptic/cbs into that fact.......besides i'd rather have a playable hologram....

    just my 2 cr worth
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,365 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    And you think Starfleet's going to trust an android built by Ancient Aliens? Especially with all the trouble Ancient Aliens are causing just now?
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    jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    liniisan wrote: »
    no i get that i mean what do they care if android is a playable race

    Because they said no its as simple as that.

    No IF'S or AND'S...

    Sooooooo...

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    khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,007 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Make a new alien character...give him the traits you want him to have...make him look how you want him to have...congrats you just made a playable android
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    taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    We can already get ourselves a whole crew of Boff androids if we want.
    They're not special or unique at all. You can even modify them at the tailor.
    Nobody knows for certain. Other then CBS said "No".
    "Supposedly".
    I've never actually seen any documentation from CBS on this though. All I've ever seen presented in the forums, is a dev quote during a podcast.
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    khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,007 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    We can already get ourselves a whole crew of Boff androids if we want.
    They're not special or unique at all. You can even modify them at the tailor.
    Nobody knows for certain. Other then CBS said "No".
    "Supposedly".
    I've never actually seen any documentation from CBS on this though. All I've ever seen presented in the forums, is a dev quote during a podcast.

    few of the CBS 'no's" aren't documented
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    gl2814egl2814e Member Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Replicant

    You could always roll a 'Replicant' of one of your existing toons. The writers for 'Whispers' even said it wasn't a clone. (Though they directly stated it wasn't an android either.)

    Use the Alien base and choose appropriate specs for a 'Replicant.'
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    kapla1755kapla1755 Member Posts: 1,249
    edited March 2015
    We can already get ourselves a whole crew of Boff androids if we want.
    They're not special or unique at all. You can even modify them at the tailor.
    Nobody knows for certain. Other then CBS said "No".
    "Supposedly".
    I've never actually seen any documentation from CBS on this though. All I've ever seen presented in the forums, is a dev quote during a podcast.

    No, You can get exactly 1x Android Boff on duty at any time that has access to all the special android unlocks, unless using some weird game glitch like the giant tailed aliens seen during the winter event.

    So that would make them unique as only a 700 day subscriber or Lifetime sub has access to the 1x Android boff.

    PS they are meant to be customizable in the tailor by design.
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    mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ok i stand corrected....but i WAS right in 1 respect....... it DID have HF mudd in it.

    +1 for playable holograms
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    taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    kapla1755 wrote: »
    No, You can get exactly 1x Android Boff on duty at any time that has access to all the special android unlocks, unless using some weird game glitch like the giant tailed aliens seen during the winter event.

    So that would make them unique as only a 700 day subscriber or Lifetime sub has access to the 1x Android boff.

    PS they are meant to be customizable in the tailor by design.

    Ah I see, I thought you could use more then one. I used to use them to train TS3. Ypu could keep buying them as needed.
    I never actually tried to have 4 of them on mission with me. Assumed you could.
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    imruinedimruined Member Posts: 1,457 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I'm still wondering about the APU Boff that was seemingly hinted at...
    The entitlement is strong in these forums...

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    taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Of course the CBS vetoes are real. Cryptic/PWE would never voluntarily pass up cash cows like endgame Connies and android player races.

    Oh i don't doubt that CBS said "No" to an end game Connie, or playable android. Just haven't seen anything official from them on it.
    So we can't say "why", is all I'm saying. Its all speculation.

    But it wouldn't surprise me at all if they had veto'd an end game Connie and android.
    They run that IP like Willy Wonka does his chocolate factory.
    With no logic (strange being this is the Star Trek IP), its pretty silly they'd want to reduce their own profits with these 2 strange vetos.
    Its not like an end game Connie or playable android in STO would hurt their brand.
    But, if that's how they choose to operate...its only hurting them.
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    kapla1755kapla1755 Member Posts: 1,249
    edited March 2015
    Ah I see, I thought you could use more then one. I used to use them to train TS3. Ypu could keep buying them as needed.
    I never actually tried to have 4 of them on mission with me. Assumed you could.


    Prior to the training manuals it was the easiest way for Lifers to get a free TS-3 boff to train your crew, used to do that all the time myself, its still the cheapest way for lifers. ;)
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I thought this, along with endgame Constitution, was forbidden by CBS.

    Yes. /thread
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