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Remove superfluous Rank II

meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Why, from the trainer store, at least. There's absolutely NO reason to ever use, say, Attack Pattern Omega II, when III is available for Commander too (and at the same price).

There may have been cheap boffs, at one time, only having Attack Pattern Omega II (to stay with the example), but now that we can outright buy these skills, these superfluous Rank II abilities should just be removed from the store.
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited March 2015
    look at your new level 50 and you will see why they are there
    Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
    Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
    Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng

    JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Why, from the trainer store, at least. There's absolutely NO reason to ever use, say, Attack Pattern Omega II, when III is available for Commander too (and at the same price).

    There may have been cheap boffs, at one time, only having Attack Pattern Omega II (to stay with the example), but now that we can outright buy these skills, these superfluous Rank II abilities should just be removed from the store.

    We have always been able to outright buy APO3, it was just annoyingly hard work find a boff that had one on the Ex since you couldn't search for it.
  • synthiasuicidesynthiasuicide Member Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Why, from the trainer store, at least. There's absolutely NO reason to ever use, say, Attack Pattern Omega II, when III is available for Commander too (and at the same price).

    There may have been cheap boffs, at one time, only having Attack Pattern Omega II (to stay with the example), but now that we can outright buy these skills, these superfluous Rank II abilities should just be removed from the store.

    Hell I wish they'd get rid of that as well as drop the rank.

    As in, Commander Sci gets Grav well III
    LTC Sci gets Grav Well II
    Lt Sci gets Grav well I

    No reason at this point to have SS2 and SS3 share the same position, etc. It feels like a mechanic from yesteryear. That now seems out of place. And would make so many new Options open up.
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  • imruinedimruined Member Posts: 1,457 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Why, from the trainer store, at least. There's absolutely NO reason to ever use, say, Attack Pattern Omega II, when III is available for Commander too (and at the same price).

    There may have been cheap boffs, at one time, only having Attack Pattern Omega II (to stay with the example), but now that we can outright buy these skills, these superfluous Rank II abilities should just be removed from the store.
    synthiasuicide wrote: »
    No reason at this point to have SS2 and SS3 share the same position, etc. It feels like a mechanic from yesteryear. That now seems out of place. And would make so many new Options open up.

    In part, I have to disagree... Unless 'rare' Boff abilities are going to be made available from the trainer (and thus destroying any value in Boff recruitment) there is still a need for the rank II abilities...

    It may not be a concern for veteran players, but new and less financial players cannot necessarily afford the price of some abilities...

    I have no doubt many players, who are less concerned about min-maxing and more concerned about their bank balance, will sacrifice what is often a very marginal increase in damage or effectiveness, in favour of saving considerable sums of EC, by purchasing the the rank II Commander ability from the trainer...

    But, having said that, beyond this reason I do agree...
    The entitlement is strong in these forums...

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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    synthiasuicide wrote: »
    Hell I wish they'd get rid of that as well as drop the rank.

    As in, Commander Sci gets Grav well III
    LTC Sci gets Grav Well II
    Lt Sci gets Grav well I

    No reason at this point to have SS2 and SS3 share the same position, etc. It feels like a mechanic from yesteryear. That now seems out of place. And would make so many new Options open up.


    GW is a good example. Lt. Cmdr got GW 1, Commander II, and III from a Captain training it for you (or a very rare boff). That is all obsolete now.

    And yes, there would never ever be a reason to use SS2, for anyone, wherever he or she may reside in the universe. It may have briefly existed on a white Intel boff (has it?). But, other than that, no sane person is ever going to train that when they can just buy SS3 off the Exchange. Like who in the world ever used APO2?!
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  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I would personally request that they restore some of the missing Lt skills for Eng or Sci; one of those is missing their full Lt ability set at the Boff trainer (noticed it yesterday when outfitting a reserve Boff I didn't need until now).
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,688 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    And yes, there would never ever be a reason to use SS2, for anyone, wherever he or she may reside in the universe. It may have briefly existed on a white Intel boff (has it?). But, other than that, no sane person is ever going to train that when they can just buy SS3 off the Exchange. Like who in the world ever used APO2?!

    Someone new might not have the extra 300K (350K vs. 50K) EC to buy from the exchange instead of the trainer.
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