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Calling all Faeht captains!

djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,382 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Romulan Discussion
My Rom tac is my last character yet to receive a Tier 6 ship (at least until there are better science options). I'm currently flying a T5-U Fleet Ar'kif and really do like it, but I've fully embraced the fact that Tier 6 is the future. Looking at the Faeht, it's bridge officer seating is a bit different from my Ar'kif (I'm using uni lt. Commander for engi heals). And I'm going to get her a Tier 6 ship regardless, so money is not an issue. With that in mind, I have two questions:

1. Do you love and recommend the Faeht and consider it worth the investment?

2. Do you expect another Tier 6 tactical escort type warbird with 5 tac consoles to be released any time soon?

Thanks for your help!
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  • umaekoumaeko Member Posts: 748 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The Faeht is a great warbird; it's quite potent and I have tons of fun with it. However, it's trait is really only just average.

    If you like your T5U Ar'kif, well, there's no reason you should think it's been outstripped already. I'd instead recommend you try other Tier 6 vessel in the interest of getting their traits.

    The Aelahl's cloak shadow trait is nothing short of amazing fun - for me, anyways.

    The Vastam's command battlecruiser's All Hands of Deck trait is also very potent, and actually works better with standard tactical powers than they would with Intel powers on the Faeht if you went for a Surgical Strikes approach. The Vastam, by itself, is a superior battlecruiser to the Aelahl.

    With those two ship, you'd have the traits which make Tier 6 ships ahead of T5U, and then be able to apply it to the ship of your choosing - either your Ar'kif or the Faeht (which is pretty much a slightly souped up T'varo with access to Intel powers instead of certain tactical or engineering powers depending on your preference).
  • jorumgandrjorumgandr Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I do love my Faeht, its like a better version of the T'Varo (admittedly my T5U T'Varo still packs a punch) but its a mean ship, and I really dig the intel exploit mechanic, it feels so... romulan.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    djf021 wrote: »
    My Rom tac is my last character yet to receive a Tier 6 ship (at least until there are better science options). I'm currently flying a T5-U Fleet Ar'kif and really do like it, but I've fully embraced the fact that Tier 6 is the future. Looking at the Faeht, it's bridge officer seating is a bit different from my Ar'kif (I'm using uni lt. Commander for engi heals). And I'm going to get her a Tier 6 ship regardless, so money is not an issue. With that in mind, I have two questions:

    1. Do you love and recommend the Faeht and consider it worth the investment?

    2. Do you expect another Tier 6 tactical escort type warbird with 5 tac consoles to be released any time soon?

    Thanks for your help!

    The Faeht has the same TAC Console count, same weapon slots, and potentially more slots to throw more offense oriented abilities in. It's faster, turns sharper, has better inertia. It has Enhanced Battle Cloak, which is the best you can get in the game and presents options for gameplay. For heals, nothing that a Hazard Emitters 2 or 3 can't take care of, esp if you already have the Command TAC Warbird's "All Hands on Deck" trait.

    To sum up the Faeht, it takes the Pre-DR performance of the popular T'Varo and renders it obsolete. That's how good the Faeht is.

    But there are very basic differences between the style of warbirds such as the Faeht/T'Varo compared to all the other, regular TAC Cmdr Warbirds.
    - The Faeht/T'Varo style rides in between the fragile Raiders and tougher Escorts. You'll notice the hull on the Faeht/T'Varo is light. Only Raiders/KDF BOPs have lighter hulls. Ships like these are not suitable for sustained combat when they're getting shot at a lot. Regular Escorts / TAC Warbirds have better hull for that kind of job. The Faeht/T'Varo/Raider styled ships are NOT "Park and Spam" ships. Other ships are more suitable for that task.

    - Again, the Enhanced Battle Cloak as well as all the perks of such a cloak. Only the T'Varo, Faeht, B'Rel BOP have Enhanced Battle Cloaks in STO.

    Those 2 points are important because though the ships may have Cmdr TAC stations and the same weapon slots, they're ideal for very different styles of play.

    Trait: The Faeht's trait is okay. I like it because it kicks off when your hull gets critically low at 25%. You get insane defense, speed boost, etc for enough time to put distance between you and whatever was threatening you. For a well handling ship like a Faeht, this is a "Get out of Jail" card from danger. It's not OP like Fed Phantom's "Reciprocity" trait but I like it and gets me out of trouble.

    Will there be new T6 TAC Cmdr Warbirds? A bit hard to say. Firstly, Cryptic absolutely hates developing Non-Fed-Faction ships. I do believe a TAC Cmdr Warbird will come but I think that would be a long ways off. The issue is that there are serious T6 faction gaps that the KDF/Roms suffer. For the Roms, specifically:
    - No T6 Science Warbirds
    - There never has been a true Carrier Warbird at any time of STO's existence

    The Roms are flush with capable Cruiser-styled Warbirds. The Aehlal and 3 Command FDC Warbirds are all solid ships.

    They also have the Faeht that if you want to get technical, will fill the role of the Cmdr TAC Escort.

    But the science and carrier aspects of the T6 Rom lineup are black holes. It's why I think we'll be a long ways off from a new T6 TAC Warbird.
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  • bismarck1975bismarck1975 Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    OP, I roll in a fleet Ar'kif as well. I have seen no reason, other than cosmetic, to switch to the T6 T'varro. I love the look of it and it does have cool abilities but it is squishy as hell. As you know, the Ar'kif sports not only a better shield mod but much better hull. Your dps is 0 when dead or running for your life.

    As a previous poster said, you would be better off grabbing a different T6 ship for the trait and using it on your Ar'kif. Without giving up any cash, I am working on my new Kobali cruiser and Breen carrier for their traits which can be slotted on the Ar'kif. Not the most OP traits but they are relavent and FREE. Ar'kif is still a very nice ship and not out of date by any means. If you prefer a sneakier/squishier alternative, then grab the T6. Just don't spam any AOE abilities.......:P
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    OP, I roll in a fleet Ar'kif as well. I have seen no reason, other than cosmetic, to switch to the T6 T'varro. I love the look of it and it does have cool abilities but it is squishy as hell. As you know, the Ar'kif sports not only a better shield mod but much better hull. Your dps is 0 when dead or running for your life.

    As a previous poster said, you would be better off grabbing a different T6 ship for the trait and using it on your Ar'kif. Without giving up any cash, I am working on my new Kobali cruiser and Breen carrier for their traits which can be slotted on the Ar'kif. Not the most OP traits but they are relavent and FREE. Ar'kif is still a very nice ship and not out of date by any means. If you prefer a sneakier/squishier alternative, then grab the T6. Just don't spam any AOE abilities.......:P

    Keep in mind, the Faction ships that came out when DR released still do not have that Fleet version with all the enhancements involved with that.
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  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    There isn't really a replacement for the Ar'kif yet. I'd suggest hanging on to what you've got for the time being.

    I imagine Fed and Rom are probably ripe for a Command Heavy Escort Carrier at some point.
  • xithrobbenxithrobben Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Will there be new T6 TAC Cmdr Warbirds? A bit hard to say. Firstly, Cryptic absolutely hates developing Non-Fed-Faction ships. I do believe a TAC Cmdr Warbird will come but I think that would be a long ways off. The issue is that there are serious T6 faction gaps that the KDF/Roms suffer. For the Roms, specifically:
    - No T6 Science Warbirds
    - There never has been a true Carrier Warbird at any time of STO's existence

    The Roms are flush with capable Cruiser-styled Warbirds. The Aehlal and 3 Command FDC Warbirds are all solid ships.

    They also have the Faeht that if you want to get technical, will fill the role of the Cmdr TAC Escort.

    But the science and carrier aspects of the T6 Rom lineup are black holes. It's why I think we'll be a long ways off from a new T6 TAC Warbird.

    Excellent writeup of the Faeht, I completely agree. It's a ferocious little ship when it comes to zipping in, wrecking your day and getting out of dodge. I agree with your final points. I've been waiting for a 5/2 "escort" warbird with a bit more survivability than the raider classes since the beginning. We may be here a while. Not sure we'll ever get true Scibirds or carriers. Yes we've got the best dreadnaught in the game to bring that kind of onslaught, but I just don't like flying things that big and never liked the look of the Scim either (as a Romulan flagship anyway). I'd love a Romulan answer to the new KDF Raptor personally, and ironically the KDF seems to want their T6 BoP.

    Whatever we get next, I hope they give us a trait comparable to the sort of stuff the Feds keep getting rather than another escape mechanic, as handy as they are. We've already got so many tools to get out of trouble.
  • bismarck1975bismarck1975 Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Keep in mind, the Faction ships that came out when DR released still do not have that Fleet version with all the enhancements involved with that.

    Indeed, if a fleet Faeht were available, that might shift he balance over to it. But as currently laid out, I could not justify the $30 for it. Fleet would indeed be a game changer.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Do you love and recommend the Faeht and consider it worth the investment?

    i bought the faeht, and i'm a little bit disappointed. Ok surgical strike is a very good skill combined with OSS, but this ship is so fragile.

    this is why I prefer to use my fleet T5-U dhelan, this ship is a beast, and i can even use the faeht trait.
  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The Faeht is a lot of fun - zippy and with a potent bridge officer selection, and I like how the intel gathering mechanic works.

    It's not exactly designed to hang in the fires and burn though - when the Faeht finishes a run, something will be blown up. It just may be you. :)
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  • seannewboyseannewboy Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jorumgandr wrote: »
    I do love my Faeht, its like a better version of the T'Varo (admittedly my T5U T'Varo still packs a punch) but its a mean ship, and I really dig the intel exploit mechanic, it feels so... romulan.

    I have run 2 characters (1 eng, 1 tac), and it really flies like a t'varo, with the addition of the intel powers.
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  • darioo1darioo1 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I have fleet t5u arkif and dhelan,great ships and i really like them. But non of them comes close to the devastation(fun) faeht can do . Yes the ship is fragile and it takes time to learn how to fly it. I have used every gear in game on it,and full aegis set worked best. It keeps me alive. Faeht is not escort ship and you should not fly it like the arkif or dhelan. Its a raider like BoP. Cloak,hit and run tactics with pedal to the metal trait..fun fun fun!!
  • ambassadormolariambassadormolari Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I love my Faeht. True, it's fragile, but it is also extremely hard-hitting, and I find the Intel abilities to be extremely useful. Plus, it looks fantastic.
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    After reading all of the comments here i am curious.

    between the Faeht Intel Warbird and the Aelahl Light Warbird Battlecruiser which would you say performs better?

    I ask as im planning on getting either and i was going to go for the Aelahl but now im not sure it would fit my tact rommie.
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  • dova25dova25 Member Posts: 475
    edited March 2015
    After reading all of the comments here i am curious.

    between the Faeht Intel Warbird and the Aelahl Light Warbird Battlecruiser which would you say performs better?

    I ask as im planning on getting either and i was going to go for the Aelahl but now im not sure it would fit my tact rommie.

    I would wait a little more maybe there will be other ships launched.
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    dova25 wrote: »
    I would wait a little more maybe there will be other ships launched.

    well she is only sub commander right now so i wont be getting any ship today. :D
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    My Rom Tac Captain uses the Faeht & T5U T'Varo.

    I find the T'Varo slightly more resilient, both ships are just so fun and zippy.

    Never did like the Ar'kif much, never fit my playstyle with that captain.
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  • bismarck1975bismarck1975 Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I happily fly the Fleet Ar'kif and just recently decided to pony up and grab the quad cannons from the Arkala to make the 2pc set exclusive to the Ar'kif. Wow, all I can say is wow. Even though I roll with beams(DBB and Omni), adding the cannon has added quite a bit of dps. I do not roll with FAW and prefer BO. Annihilation console is awesome. The plasma special weapon hits hard. Some people may dislike the quad cannons but they seem to work well with the 2pc set. Set adds 10% plasma damage as well. Love it and Ar'kif seems much more survivable. If Faeht gets a fleet version, it would likely be better but until then......and I hear they are nerfing SS anyway.:D
  • jorumgandrjorumgandr Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    After reading all of the comments here i am curious.

    between the Faeht Intel Warbird and the Aelahl Light Warbird Battlecruiser which would you say performs better?

    I ask as im planning on getting either and i was going to go for the Aelahl but now im not sure it would fit my tact rommie.

    The Aelahl is more of a battlecruiser, its a bit more nimble then a heavy cruiser, can load cannons, but its heavy on the engineering platform, it can tank but its harder to make it spank.

    The Faeht is more like a raider or light escort, nimble but fragile. it benefits from a Ltcommander science which makes it a bit more versatile then the Aelahl, also the commander tac/intel seat really lets you get crazy with powers making the Faeht jump outta left field.

    Aelahl is more of a familiar grounds ship.

    The Faeht is a mad scientist and its not afraid to prove it to you.
  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jorumgandr wrote: »
    The Faeht is a mad scientist and its not afraid to prove it to you.

    that made me lol.

    But the information is good to know, thanks i have almost enough zen so i might get the Faeht when she hits 50.
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  • bumperthumperbumperthumper Member Posts: 513 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I have had exactly 0% buyer's remorse when I grabbed that bird. I mothballed my Scimitar pack for her.

    It's simply a FUN ship to use. It can even stand its own when it isn't a hit-and-run build. (I wouldn't suggest parking and shooting, though.)

    She's simply a versatile ship. I can't wait for the fleet upgrade.
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I just switched back to using my T5U Fleet T'Varo as my primary Romulan ship, with the Faeht in reserve.

    After using the Faeht since release, I forgot how much I miss the T'Varo's Destabalized Plasma Torp. I love both ships, and thier individual strengths.
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  • gertjan020gertjan020 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I have the Fleet Faeht for a few weeks now on a science Deltra recruit toon i created.

    Im loving it so far, the fleet version gives you an extra engineer slot and the intel capabilities are awesome.

    I am building it as a romulan plasma/torpedo boat with reman space set. (its not completely done yet)

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