I don't how will be the new episode, but please stop with Tuvok. this character was boring in the tv show and he is worse in the game.
Against the iconians we need someone with feelings and not a blabla machine. I hate vulcans in general: not friendly, and they have the charisma of an oyster.
A full campaign with Tuvok is enough (+ missions in the Solanae sphere)
To truly appreciate Tuvok you must see him and his band rock out to the deep Vulcan blues. Then you will change your tune to more Tuvok please!
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Please have more Tuvok in future episodes of STO; he was one of the best characters in Voyager, which is why he was brought back and so heavily featured in DR. Would love to see B'elanna and Chakotay back as well.
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Meh, Tuvok is ok. I would prefer more Captain Shon if we need a Federation hand holder though. I like him over the other Federation NPCs.
What I *would* like is for Cryptic to make the mission text to make sense in context to the KDF experience. Just because I stopped shooting at the Federation, doesn't make me any more likely to give out hugs than I was when I was shooting at them. Some of those missions make me roll my eyes.
Tuvok, my least favorite Vulcan ... and I got to listen to him a LOT last week as I grinded out the set from a step between stars on my Sci.
T'Pol - first Vulcan to serve on a human vessel, in a time when Vulcans had a rather low opinion of us.
Spock - half human, and a very entertaining counterpart to Kirk.
Tuvok - boring. Most interesting thing I remember him doing is almost becoming a borg drone in that episode where they fake assimilation to infiltrate a borg ship. The premise of that episode boardered on absurd though.
yeah, i am sick of feddies and romulans ordering me about and expecting me to care about their vaunted prime directive and cracker-jack 'ethics' that they never actually even try to live up to themselves.
I rather like Tuvok, and Vulcans in general. T'Pol can neck pinch me anytime.
This sums up my feelings. Vulcans can grow on you after you dig past the initial apparent lack of expression of emotions. I like Romulans as well, they're just sassy Vulcans in my book.
Actually, though Tuvok has grown on me over the years, Harry Kim wouldn't be a bad choice to change things up. The character has enough depth to make it work.
Once we can focus on something besides the Delta Quadrant, though, it would be nice to bring in somebody new (who hasn't done VO's or had a major part in STO before). But I won't be the one to derail the thread and start suggesting people.
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yeah, i am sick of feddies and romulans ordering me about and expecting me to care about their vaunted prime directive and cracker-jack 'ethics' that they never actually even try to live up to themselves.
Makes you wonder if they can figure out a way to bring Michael Dorn back as Worf. But I hope they save him for whenever/if they swing the focus back over to DS9, the Dominion, and the Gamma Quadrant.
Sidenote: "The 2800" was a great FE arc, but didn't nearly open up the GQ enough. Plus, I could see the Iconians manipulating the True Way just like they did to the Tal Shiar and the Vaadwaur. It's kind of a thing with them.
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Or the OP could just turn his voice volume sliders down. The fact is if you don't like it, tough, you're not the writer.
the fact is - the writers in this game just aren't very good.
the actors have to work with the poor material they are handed.
Tovan Khev is painful to listen to.
Again, the writers in this game are about what you would expect in a freshman high school creative writing class. There is better writing on fanfiction.net from 12 yo's
Meh, Tuvok is ok. I would prefer more Captain Shon if we need a Federation hand holder though. I like him over the other Federation NPCs.
What I *would* like is for Cryptic to make the mission text to make sense in context to the KDF experience. Just because I stopped shooting at the Federation, doesn't make me any more likely to give out hugs than I was when I was shooting at them. Some of those missions make me roll my eyes.
The thing is they made the right call. Shon is NOT the man for this job. Dealing with the Borg, Species 8472, the Voth, Omega particles, and the Delta Quadrant these are the perfect jobs for Tuvok as the highest ranking Voyager officer available. Only Admiral Janeway herself is a viable alternative, and Kate Mulgrew has traded in her red and black uniform for an orange one. Even if Beltran would come back, Chakotay is established as the head of Starfleet Intelligence. That leaves B'Elanna and Tom Paris who are married with children and likely completely out of Starfleet if Endgame is any guide.
ALL that said.
I agree. The KDF side text and choices needs alteration to reflect the different way and approach Klingons make to things including dealing with building alliances. For instance the issue with the Hazari. Rather than being forced between choosing whether to let what the Hazari did slide or keeping them in the alliance a Klingon would've called in a fleet and simply threatened to annihilate them if they didn't back down completely. There should be instances where the Klingon method while more brute force would be more effective. Not because either the Federation or Klingon method is better, but because neither way is going to be 100% effective in every situation. Hence sometimes this is a job for the Federation and sometimes this looks like a job for a Klingon.
For instance the Kazon. In this case both sizes can be useful as while the Federation can get the Kazon who are interested in revenge and negotiate with supplies, Klingons can just force Sessen to yield and scare everyone else into line.
I'm fine with Tuvok. I didn't care for 7 of 9 in the episodes, though.
And, God help me, of all the voice actors, Neelix was my favorite.
Seven is interesting as one would think she'd be a bit further along emotionally. That said Ms. Ryan was pretty solid overall, it's just that we see her in a professional setting where she's still the epitome of efficiency. That said Seven is great with conveying that sense of guilt over her prior actions from assimilating people to unleashing the Vaadwaur.
Neelix had a LOT more to work with here than in the series proper. That "My time on Voyager showed me the best people could be..." bit killed me. I mean Neelix started out as basically a con artist. Now he's responsible and empathetic and genuinely grown up.
This sums up my feelings. Vulcans can grow on you after you dig past the initial apparent lack of expression of emotions. I like Romulans as well, they're just sassy Vulcans in my book.
I like that view. My main is married to a Vulcan so I'm of course biased. Romulans are sassy Vulcans, that's gold.
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For instance the Kazon. In this case both sizes can be useful as while the Federation can get the Kazon who are interested in revenge and negotiate with supplies, Klingons can just force Sessen to yield and scare everyone else into line.
I agree. I think they should have made text and story options for the KDF.
Neelix had a LOT more to work with here than in the series proper. That "My time on Voyager showed me the best people could be..." bit killed me. I mean Neelix started out as basically a con artist. Now he's responsible and empathetic and genuinely grown up.
This. To be honest, I found that STO's portrayal of Neelix really grew on me. He is pretty much a Talaxian version of Jiro Sugihara, who I personally find quite amusing. If I hadn't seen him on VOY, I probably wouldn't have hated his guts to begin with. Thanks, Cryptic, for helping me forget the VOY Neelix, who was an overreaching, incompetent fool who made poor Tuvok go through nearly seven years of social hell.
Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
Well, no. He felt "marginalized". Hate to break it to him, but he's not all that great an actor, nor was the character of Chakotay all that interesting to begin with. I can see why TPTB sidelined him.
There was a lot more to it than what you're saying. He didn't like the direction that the writers and producers were taking the show in. Although Voyager was good for the most part, the very rushed last season did vindicate him, as well as that horrible finale.
This. To be honest, I found that STO's portrayal of Neelix really grew on me. He is pretty much a Talaxian version of Jiro Sugihara, who I personally find quite amusing. If I hadn't seen him on VOY, I probably wouldn't have hated his guts to begin with. Thanks, Cryptic, for helping me forget the VOY Neelix, who was an overreaching, incompetent fool who made poor Tuvok go through nearly seven years of social hell.
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That WAS Voyager Neelix. He was only the annoying con artist for the first two seasons or so, then after Kes broke up with him, he became the comic relief and all around "nice guy/best friend" on Voyager who would comfort everyone when they were down and cheer everyone up.
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The thing is they made the right call. Shon is NOT the man for this job. Dealing with the Borg, Species 8472, the Voth, Omega particles, and the Delta Quadrant these are the perfect jobs for Tuvok as the highest ranking Voyager officer available. Only Admiral Janeway herself is a viable alternative, and Kate Mulgrew has traded in her red and black uniform for an orange one. Even if Beltran would come back, Chakotay is established as the head of Starfleet Intelligence. That leaves B'Elanna and Tom Paris who are married with children and likely completely out of Starfleet if Endgame is any guide.
Yes, no doubt their experience would be better, and this is a Voyager themed expansion, (I hated Voyager) so it's not a big surprise that Tuvok would be leading the charge here. My preference of Shon over the other Fed npcs is a personal one, I just like him better than the others. Though my one moment of annoyance with him is in the last mission of the 2800 episode arc during the space battle when he shows up in the Enterprise and has a Kurland moment to let me know he arrived.
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I'm with this guy. However, I do hope that the OP will eventually find new Featured Episodes to their liking.
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What I *would* like is for Cryptic to make the mission text to make sense in context to the KDF experience. Just because I stopped shooting at the Federation, doesn't make me any more likely to give out hugs than I was when I was shooting at them. Some of those missions make me roll my eyes.
T'Pol - first Vulcan to serve on a human vessel, in a time when Vulcans had a rather low opinion of us.
Spock - half human, and a very entertaining counterpart to Kirk.
Tuvok - boring. Most interesting thing I remember him doing is almost becoming a borg drone in that episode where they fake assimilation to infiltrate a borg ship. The premise of that episode boardered on absurd though.
and idealy bond you to bed, make you naked covered with only leaf on obvous part and call your parents, and you frieds to look at you and have fun .
After that mess that was Voyager, it's hard to blame him.
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And, God help me, of all the voice actors, Neelix was my favorite.
This sums up my feelings. Vulcans can grow on you after you dig past the initial apparent lack of expression of emotions. I like Romulans as well, they're just sassy Vulcans in my book.
Oh, so you want Neelix!
Actually, though Tuvok has grown on me over the years, Harry Kim wouldn't be a bad choice to change things up. The character has enough depth to make it work.
Once we can focus on something besides the Delta Quadrant, though, it would be nice to bring in somebody new (who hasn't done VO's or had a major part in STO before). But I won't be the one to derail the thread and start suggesting people.
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Makes you wonder if they can figure out a way to bring Michael Dorn back as Worf. But I hope they save him for whenever/if they swing the focus back over to DS9, the Dominion, and the Gamma Quadrant.
Sidenote: "The 2800" was a great FE arc, but didn't nearly open up the GQ enough. Plus, I could see the Iconians manipulating the True Way just like they did to the Tal Shiar and the Vaadwaur. It's kind of a thing with them.
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the fact is - the writers in this game just aren't very good.
the actors have to work with the poor material they are handed.
Tovan Khev is painful to listen to.
Again, the writers in this game are about what you would expect in a freshman high school creative writing class. There is better writing on fanfiction.net from 12 yo's
The thing is they made the right call. Shon is NOT the man for this job. Dealing with the Borg, Species 8472, the Voth, Omega particles, and the Delta Quadrant these are the perfect jobs for Tuvok as the highest ranking Voyager officer available. Only Admiral Janeway herself is a viable alternative, and Kate Mulgrew has traded in her red and black uniform for an orange one. Even if Beltran would come back, Chakotay is established as the head of Starfleet Intelligence. That leaves B'Elanna and Tom Paris who are married with children and likely completely out of Starfleet if Endgame is any guide.
ALL that said.
I agree. The KDF side text and choices needs alteration to reflect the different way and approach Klingons make to things including dealing with building alliances. For instance the issue with the Hazari. Rather than being forced between choosing whether to let what the Hazari did slide or keeping them in the alliance a Klingon would've called in a fleet and simply threatened to annihilate them if they didn't back down completely. There should be instances where the Klingon method while more brute force would be more effective. Not because either the Federation or Klingon method is better, but because neither way is going to be 100% effective in every situation. Hence sometimes this is a job for the Federation and sometimes this looks like a job for a Klingon.
For instance the Kazon. In this case both sizes can be useful as while the Federation can get the Kazon who are interested in revenge and negotiate with supplies, Klingons can just force Sessen to yield and scare everyone else into line.
Seven is interesting as one would think she'd be a bit further along emotionally. That said Ms. Ryan was pretty solid overall, it's just that we see her in a professional setting where she's still the epitome of efficiency. That said Seven is great with conveying that sense of guilt over her prior actions from assimilating people to unleashing the Vaadwaur.
Neelix had a LOT more to work with here than in the series proper. That "My time on Voyager showed me the best people could be..." bit killed me. I mean Neelix started out as basically a con artist. Now he's responsible and empathetic and genuinely grown up.
And no love for the Doctor around here?
I like that view. My main is married to a Vulcan so I'm of course biased. Romulans are sassy Vulcans, that's gold.
I agree. I think they should have made text and story options for the KDF.
This. To be honest, I found that STO's portrayal of Neelix really grew on me. He is pretty much a Talaxian version of Jiro Sugihara, who I personally find quite amusing. If I hadn't seen him on VOY, I probably wouldn't have hated his guts to begin with. Thanks, Cryptic, for helping me forget the VOY Neelix, who was an overreaching, incompetent fool who made poor Tuvok go through nearly seven years of social hell.
Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
I dare you to do better.
No, he hated the writers and producers on Star Trek. Garret Wang apparently had a "thing" with them, too, but that didn't stop him from coming back.
There was a lot more to it than what you're saying. He didn't like the direction that the writers and producers were taking the show in. Although Voyager was good for the most part, the very rushed last season did vindicate him, as well as that horrible finale.
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That WAS Voyager Neelix. He was only the annoying con artist for the first two seasons or so, then after Kes broke up with him, he became the comic relief and all around "nice guy/best friend" on Voyager who would comfort everyone when they were down and cheer everyone up.
No thanks. I'd like for at least one enemy faction to be acting in their own interests instead of being another pawn.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Yes, no doubt their experience would be better, and this is a Voyager themed expansion, (I hated Voyager) so it's not a big surprise that Tuvok would be leading the charge here. My preference of Shon over the other Fed npcs is a personal one, I just like him better than the others. Though my one moment of annoyance with him is in the last mission of the 2800 episode arc during the space battle when he shows up in the Enterprise and has a Kurland moment to let me know he arrived.