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What differences are there between Fed/Klingon allegiance?

katyusha454katyusha454 Member Posts: 21 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Romulan Discussion
I just recently started playing a Romulan character, and the next mission is the one where I choose which side I take. I know that you're able to get ships from that faction and some uniform stuff, but what benefits can you get from each faction? I assume there's a tradeoff between the two but since I can't find any information on what you actually get by picking a side I have no idea what to choose.
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Stories are the same either way, other than a few little details like which NPC you call in to or whether it's a Defiant or a Vor'cha that shows up when you call in the cavalry, but just little stuff like that.

    Doffs and gear are the significant difference. You get the doffs and doff missions of whichever faction you pick, so lower prices and generally better availability if you go Fed or options for all the contraband farming if you go KDF. Gear wise, you get access to the faction's special consoles of any c-store ships you own (access to the Plasmonic Leech for cheaper if you go KDF for example), but also starbase access for faction-specific gear (and its easier to find an advanced Fed fleet than a Klingon one).

    Its really not a huge difference.
  • revanindustriesrevanindustries Member Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ^ what he said, but the added bonus by allying with the KDF is that you can stick it to any devs who may or may not have a fed bias.
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Basically, the biggest difference has to do with the Doff (Duty Officer) missions. The KDF faction offers you marauding and military missions that will provide you with contraband on and a good amount of dilithium ore. Sure the Federation has Doff missions that rewards contraband, but there are not that many. The same can be said of basically all missions reward some amount of dilithium ore, but the KDF have missions that rewards a lot more.

    The KDF has plenty of "raid" missions that lasts 45 minutes (plus whatever cool down you must wait before they repeat). A normal success rewards 2 contrabands while a critical success rewards 5 contraband. There is a Doff mission (both Fed and KDF) where you give 5 contraband to a security in return for 2,000 dilithium ore which takes 4 hours. Since it is far more easier to earn contraband in the KDF faction you can run this mission more often. For example, my Fed Engineering toon has about 400 rare and very rare Doffs, but missions (diplomatic. military, espionage) that reward contraband do not appear very often so at best I may get 6 - 9 contraband per day. My KDF tactical toon has about 300 rare and very Doffs and at best I have received 45 contraband in one day, but mostly it is 30 or more. A KDF toon with only 100 uncommon Doffs should generally be able to get around 10 - 12 contraband per day as long as you take the time to look for these types of missions.

    The KDF have a lot of "Forced Labor" military missions where you turn over 4 prisoners (I buy them from the Exchange) and are rewarded with 500 dilithium ore on a normal success; 1,500 dilithium ore with a critical success. Assuming you can find 5 of these missions and have 20 prisoners, you should be able to get at least 2,500 dilithium ore (assuming the mission does not fail). The Federation do not have access to many missions that can reward 500 dilithium ore.

    You can refine 8,000 dilithium ore into 8,000 dilithium crystals per day. The refined dilithium can be exchanged for Zen so that you can buy things in the C-Store which only uses Zen. The only other way to obtain Zen is to buy it with real money.


    Beyond that, as a member of the KDF you can purchase T1 - T4 KDF starships (Fed starships if you were to join the Federation). There is one particular ship that is highly desired by KDF players and that is the T3 Vandel Destroyer (1,000 Zen) which allows you to claim the Plasmonic Leech console many times over (but only one can be installed per ship and it is bound to your toon once claimed). The Leech drains power away from your target ship and transfers it over to your ship. The amount of power drained depends on how high your "Flow Capacitor" captain skill. More power added to your ship means your ship will perform better. Federation toons can also get the Plasmonic Leech for their ships, but it must be purchased from the Exchange and it generally costs 38 million to 42 million EC.

    Because you are flying a Romulan starship you have 40 points of powerful subtracted from the 200 points of power that a Fed / KDF starships normally have available to be allocated to your ships subsystems. That is because the singularity core uses the 40 points of power to give your ship singularity abilities.

    Initially the lack of power is not noticeable because you are fighting relatively weak enemies. However, as you level up enemy starships will have more hit points and more firepower. The Plasmonic Leech is recommended for engineering and tactical Romulan captains, but it is more or less a requirement if you are a Romulan science captain.

    Science abilities effectiveness depends on auxiliary power, but you still need power in weapons as well. A 40 power point penalty means that you will not have a lot of power to allocate to all your subsystems. Engineers and tactical captains can ignore auxiliary power if they want to, but a science captain cannot do that.


    If you have either an engineer or tactical toon, then go either way. If you have a science toon, then I highly recommend you go with the KDF. I have a Romulan science captain that I aligned with the Federation because I didn't know any better. That toon currently flies the free T6 Breen Carrier (science heavy) from the 2014 Winter Event in December so that I do not have to deal with the power issues.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The others have already gone over the DOFFing aspect on the KDF side, which is an advantage.

    For KDF, buying a low-tiered C-Store ship makes Plasmonic Leech an faction-account wide thing, as do some of the low tiered consoles/ships like the Aceton Assimilators. If you intend to have multiple KDF/KDF-Rom characters, having immediate access to Plasmonic Leech for all of those characters is a great EC-saving luxury that the Feds/Fed-Roms will not have.

    A small side benefit of the KDF is that First City is quiet, mellow :cool: You don't have to turn off your Zone Chat window while there conducting your business. Ask your questions and it's taken cared of. The only bad part of First City is the occasional, hardcore gold spammers.

    One thing that needs to be mentioned are the cost of items in the exchange between Fed/KDF/Fed-Rom/KDF-Rom. In general, things for the KDF side are more expensive. Some a tad bit more, others outrageously more. For example, KDF DOFFs can go a lot more. The issue is supply and demand. The KDF playerbase is far smaller than the Fed side, so you don't have as much of a supply of certain things coming in more regularly than Fed side.

    For Fleet related items, outside ships themselves, there is 1 last advantage the KDF has. Elite Fleet Disruptors >>> Elite Fleet Phasers. All Fleet weapons are straddled with pretty bad mod sets on them. But the Elite Fleet Disruptors at least have that wonderful shield killing proc that still makes them look enticing.
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited March 2015
    double free duty officers, R@D assistance x2, Buffs in the starbase for content / bloodwine for instance

    Drawbacks

    pug content is more restricted of its faction based because the Qs don't fill well

    Duty officers for space and ground are much more expensive

    clothing for your characters is limited verses fed
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    Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng

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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Dovetailing with the DOFF prisoner missions, if you are trying to acquire extra latinum (for the Latinum trophies when they finally give them to Romulans), particularly for the Summer/Winter costme items, there is a marauding mission where you can sell your prisoners to the Orion Syndicate. On a normal success, it gives 1,000 latinum. On a Crit, it should give 1,500.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    KDF has access to the leech console from a ship, can get contraband (worth much EC or converts to dil) in large quantities.

    Fed aligned don't really get anything special in the low level ships and cannot get contraband.

    fed fleets/activity level is higher, but there are active and developed kdf fleets too, just gotta look harder.

    For the most part, they play the same story and do the same things. The "main" story arcs that all players do are fed tainted and often make less sense as a kdf player. Or no sense at all in some cases.

    So it boils down to
    contra
    leech
    DO assignments
    social gaming interactions.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    westmetals wrote: »
    Do note, for fleet-building purposes, you can use opposite faction white quality doffs (I get them from the exchange, or break down and then mail from Fed-side characters) as fleet donations. This is the ONLY thing you can use them for, but you can use them for this.

    And yes, other than ships, costumes, and DOFF-related details (including contraband), there's very little difference. The ships and DOFF things can be rather major, though.

    Well, the OP is playing Rom so the ship selection is going to be limited anyways since he's not a pure Fed :cool:
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Another is the Foundry. Fed side has a LOT more missions.
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  • katyusha454katyusha454 Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Oh, one other question. Is it possible for my Romulan character to use high-tier premium ships from the other factions? Like say if I chose Fed would she be able to use my Presidio battlecruiser?
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Oh, one other question. Is it possible for my Romulan character to use high-tier premium ships from the other factions? Like say if I chose Fed would she be able to use my Presidio battlecruiser?

    No, you will NOT be able to use either the T5 nor the T6 ships.
  • astro2244astro2244 Member Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    davidwford wrote: »
    No, you will NOT be able to use either the T5 nor the T6 ships.



    With the one exception of the tier 5 ambassador that was given away last year which somehow allowed you to claim it as a rommie.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    astro2244 wrote: »
    With the one exception of the tier 5 ambassador that was given away last year which somehow allowed you to claim it as a rommie.

    That was a glitch. Just like the fact that KDFers can still wear swimsuits off Risa.
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  • umaekoumaeko Member Posts: 748 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Back during the Legacy of Romulus Beta, I tried a few things. One was to experience the change in allegiance and what it provided:

    You get an alliance uniform, for starters. In my opinion, the KDF allegiance uniform is the much cooler of the two choices you have (I do wish we could unlock those uniform via level 4 of the diplomacy/maurauding commendation track since we don't get diplomacy uniforms). However, from that point out you also apparently suffer from a limited palette of colors when customizing your character.

    What struck me the most, though, was the change in dialogue.

    For Fed, there was actually not that much in the way of change. Some of my officers seemed unduly concerned with the Federation's prime directive, but that was about it.

    For the KDF, the way my officers changed more dramatically. They became much more concerned with 'honor', glory to the Empire and Qa'pla was getting tossed around waaay to often.

    ...

    So, as I wanted a Romulan crew and not a klingon crew, I chose to side with the Federation. My foremost goal was to stay as Romulan as possible.
  • ccarmichael07ccarmichael07 Member Posts: 755 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I play as a TOS era Romulan from a parallel universe with a slightly different history and tech level than the Prime Universe. For me, the choice was simple to pick KDF. This acknowledges the alliance between the RSE and the Empire in the 2260's, and gives me access to the D7 cruiser, which isn't available to Fed aligned Romulans.

    :)


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