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valkarie14valkarie14 Member Posts: 762 Arc User
Im thinking of buying one of them but not sure which, i have a few questions

Whats the customisation like? Can i make it look like a defiant on phantom?
Whats the mastery ability on both?
Is intel ship tactical?
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    You can change the ship material to look like regular Starfleet instead of 'stealth bomber,' but the shape you see is the shape it gets. If you have the other Intel ships you can swap warp nacelles, but thats it.

    Mastery on the Phantom is Reciprocity, which lowers cooldowns on all tactical and intel abilities whenever someone shooting at you misses. Its flat-out OP.

    Mastery on the Eclipse is Battle Ready, where use of Engineering abilities boosts your Defense by 7.5% per proc (max 3 procs) for 15 seconds. You can imagine what that does when combined with Reciprocity.

    The Phantom is intel/tactical. The Eclipse is intel/engineering.
  • kozar2kozar2 Member Posts: 602 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    They are both nice ships. I like the cruiser more but the phantom mastery is a must have. Both put out loads of dps. They won't really shine though until we get fleet versions.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,690 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Both are good ships.

    The look of the cruiser has grown on me over time, and it looks good to me with both the Jem'Hadar and Romulan/Reman space sets.

    I'm still not very fond of the stubby little escort design.
  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The Eclipse is downright nasty when running with the intel abilities override safeties and surgical strikes. Combined with an antiproton build and a high level of critH & critD it can completely massacre anything it points its guns at.
    I've been running one with an antiproton DBB build and it was lethal. I'd say it's one of the best Fed cruisers in game right now, easily the closest match to a Scimitar you can get Fed side.

    Phantom is probably the best Fed escort at the moment (Aquarius is pretty close though with all its uni boff slots). It is what the Defiant should have been and that Reciprocity trait is amazing. Slot it on a ship that moves fast with high defence value and you'll pretty much have a free A2B build running with all your tac abilities on global CD.
    This ship works well with cannons or beams.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,690 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    ^ all true, but I'd still pay Zen for a less stumpy, stubby, squashed model for it :(

    It's harder to feel like Captain Awesome when your ship looks so wimpy :)
  • birzarkbirzark Member Posts: 634 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I own both of the ships and both traits sync well together cause the + defense trait of the eclipse helps reprocity proc more often. Also whats really nice is you can put almost the same abilities on the phantom as you can on the eclipse because of the commander intel slot which is really nice because OSS3 and SS3 are a deadly combo. Also i switched the nacelles of the phantom and eclipse and made both vessels looks much better.
  • valkarie14valkarie14 Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Im thinking of going for the phantom does it have inbuilt cloak? I thought escorts are better with cannons didnt realise beams would be as effective, is it similar in power to the defiant?
  • kerygankerygan Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    phantom is way better than defiant , it's trait is useful for any build-ship. The dual heavy cannons ... those are weak compared to beams at eficiency. Oh and yes it has a inbuilt cloak.
  • valkarie14valkarie14 Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Why are beams better? I thought dhc was always the best for an escort, is it normal or battle cloak?
  • kerygankerygan Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Its normal cloack. Well the dch , hmm , it seems they ware nerfed... i was using dhc a year ago on my Aventine , when the DR came out i allsow come back to game , tested my ship an saw i have good dmg output just at very close range and on a sigle target . After that i tried dbbs and i got much more dmg overall. So the dhcs are good only on single target at a very , very close range. Allsow the skills are better FAW and Overload , compared to scatter v. and rapid fire. Make a test and you will see. Oh and the most important , beams have better synergy with surgical strikes , faster fire rate.
  • valkarie14valkarie14 Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Well i got plasmonic leech so that should be great for keeping power levels steady, also i have alot of flight speed, i thought dhc werent as powerful i used to take out stuff fast but lately takin more hits to do so
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Going to pick up the Eclipse myself.

    Should have got it instead of those Command cruisers...
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  • valkarie14valkarie14 Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Think i might get both the traits sound good and always nice to have new ships to mix it up, the eclipse looks like a prometheus i think, i know you can customise your starship but cant see what you can add from eclipse to phantom
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