test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Battleship
mwhitaker
Member Posts: 131 Arc User
So we've had the Typhoon class Bateship in-game for...well as long as I've been here (smidge over 3 years) and I know a good number of players have expressed interest in it and battleships in general in the past (show of hands?). PWE if you want some more of my money, take a hint. Delta Rising launched with the new line of tier 6 and Intel ships, and recently the awesome new command ships were released (although I consider the lack of effort in design of the Klingon ships insulting :mad:). How about some new tier 6 battleships? A new ship class, not cruisers, not battle cruisers. Battleships. Believe some of the suggestions towards these I've heard in the past were similar to what we now have in the command ships in some ways, but things like heavy beam arrays (may be equipped on battleships only), unique abilities, among other things. Some more flavor to the game. People, don't tell me you don't want a battleship...(or at least to fight one/alongside one)
*EDIT* Ok I wasn't clear enough. I'm not a huge fan of the Typhoon myself, but I'm saying battleships. A ship type, not solely the Typhoon. Nobody says they would even have to make the Typhoon a playable ship, just battleships as a playable ship type. And not Fed only. In case my avatar doesn't speak louder than words, I am a KDF main. Same as Intel and Command ships: battleships for both factions and the Romulan half-a-faction.
*EDIT* Ok I wasn't clear enough. I'm not a huge fan of the Typhoon myself, but I'm saying battleships. A ship type, not solely the Typhoon. Nobody says they would even have to make the Typhoon a playable ship, just battleships as a playable ship type. And not Fed only. In case my avatar doesn't speak louder than words, I am a KDF main. Same as Intel and Command ships: battleships for both factions and the Romulan half-a-faction.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"The Borg - party-poopers of the galaxy" ~ The Doctor
"The Borg - party-poopers of the galaxy" ~ The Doctor
Post edited by mwhitaker on
0
Comments
Most of the recent ships we've been given fulfill the same role as historical battleships did: Mount large weapons with high protection.
Star Trek rarely showed any respect for wet navy classification systems anyway.
Then there is also the large group of Typhoon haters. And every KDF/Romulan player who would demand a ship of equal capabilities be made for their factions, in which they would be completely right. And there are the people who don't want just another cruiser, but something different. Which is very tough to design, especially if you want to make it more powerful than anything that already exists, but not too powerful to break future ship sales. Which is what went wrong with the Republic and the Scimitar: that ship was too OP for anything else to be succesfully sold afterwards.
Join the Deltas today!
Pretty much what I would like to see.
Makes an aweful lot of sense, doesn't it?
They replaced the Jupiter class a long time ago with the Galaxy-X.
Time to let the underdeveloped not too pretty Typhoon go.
Because my good sir. The Typhoon "feels" like a battleship where as the others are just... meh.
In your opinion.
Well... being a complete " **** " ... "my opinion" is all that matters :P
of course, it's about make believe ships. Opinion is the only thing that matters. Though in the end, it's not yours or mine... just the dev's opinion that has any weight.
aslong as I don't have to cry my way up some "Battleship spec tree" I'll be happy... for about 40 seconds.
The Jupiter is still in Klingon Fleet Alert. I fought one past weekend. And she deserves to remain there. I personally find the Jupiter a horrible piece of..... lets not go into those kind of words here. But still, she deserves to be somewhere, for the fans of that model.
The Typhoon likewise. If you would tweak the Typhoon model just a little bit, it would be a really good ship. I can accept her in her current form, but a tweaked model will do wonders, and actually make for a very good ship, both player and NPC.
Join the Deltas today!
Oh, and the terminology... BATTLESHIP BATTLESHIP BATTLESHIP!!! WWHOOOA! Just write in your character's bio that you are Major General Warfighter Military Person and your ship is the Comman Dradship Battlefighter of Shooty.
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
Eh, the Typhoon just looks like an eyesore. The CBCs, all big and powerful and taking so much punishment, feel like battleships.
But it's all a matter of opinion; and as someone noted, Star Trek wasn't really good at keeping to the Washington Naval Treaty wet navy classifications.
(STO is, amazingly, *worse* about it!)
Well they already replace the Typhoon Renown in the Fed tutorial with a Regent Renown.
My Monbosh say's. Elachi Monbosh Battleship.
Right there in the name on the ship screen. So there you go. lol
And it feels like it when your the pilot. The scale and such it's HUGE. When you first get behind the wheel the thing takes up the entire screen. And that's no joke. Gotta zoom out at least 8 times to match the camera angle of zooming out once on most other Large ships. Atrox.oddy, etc. And the Monbosh simply doesn't look that big when pulling up next to one in Space.
That said, I wish they'd just standardize the 5/3 or 4/4 Battlecruisers as Battleships and let the other be the "Battlecruiser".
Politically it makes it smoother to pass.
Federation as an example:
The Federation Council/Assembly/Whatever are generally leaning against militaristic ventures so what's starfleet to do to create nimble ships to cope with the threat from the borg? (back when the defiant was designed)
Call it an escort. It is pretty much a war vessel by any measure but the designation infers small defensively oriented craft.
Suddenly the Assembly is ok with it.
Subterfuge would be another reason to use weird designations:
The romulans could release a new dreadnought and classify it as a heavy cruiser.
Thus creating the illusion that in the end it is lesser than what it is.
(there are RL parallels to this - from ww1 up to today these practices occur)
If the battleship looked good and fought like a battleship should, I'd write in my characters bio that it is Little Bo Peep Of the Looking for Lost Sheep Consortium. Nothing is wrong with wanting a big boat of 'urty in a game that sees more expolsions than a hillbilly Fourth of July (no offense to hillbillies , of course).
A battleship with heavy phasers? Thats a cruiser, with a gimmick weapon. Its the same like the vesta with there aux-cannons, the vesta still is a sciship, just with a gimmick.
A battleship is bascially the bortas with 2more weapon slots and an inherent neutronium. By all means, the T6-Bortas should have that. So it could finally be on par with the Ody.
Basically, the point I'm trying to get at is that Cryptic should stop fortifying FAW spam ships and make traditional builds (Normally cannons or whatnot for Escorts) viable once again.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they're worthless, and that you can't DPS with other builds, but everything is BFAW. EVERYTHING.
Ship build coordinator for The Breakfast Club http://WWW.TBCSTO.COM
Doesn't Owe Anyone EC
Kirks Prot
Heck, Starfleet didn't even start building warships period until they got their TRIBBLE handed to them by the Borg.
Even then the only purebred warships in canon was the Defiant and Prometheus class ships, the Defiant being classed as an "Escort", and the Prometheus as a "Deep Space Tactical Vessel".
If Cryptic renamed the Lv40 Assault Cruiser to have "Battleship" in the name would you guys get it? I think many in STO would. Because they're too gullible to understand that the TAC heavy Cruisers already fulfill this role.
In case nobody noticed it yet, most esp the TAC Cruisers have:
- Practically unmatched firepower, more than Escorts.
- The Cruiser Commands to help enable and maintain said firepower.
- Capability to be built tough and withstand damage.
The best of the TAC Cruisers have 5 ENG Consoles and 4 TAC Consoles. Cmdr ENG, LtCdr TAC. They pump out lots of firepower and can take the punishment.
I'll link a reply I had from here on a very similar subject, though this time it was another one of those "Federation Dreadnought" requests.
In terms of game stats, the Gal-X with the "Dreadnought" name on it is outstripped by the likes of the Excelsior, Regent/Fleet Sovereign, Avenger, TAC & SCI Odyssey (oh yeah, I said that), Guardian, Eclipse. And none of the later listed ships have "Dreadnought" in their names, yet they present great firepower, survivability far more than the ship named "Dreadnought."
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
"The Borg - party-poopers of the galaxy" ~ The Doctor