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lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
Anyone feel they are getting stingy with the loot drops lately? Usually I'd get a inventry full of useless TRIBBLE I'd flog off to get some extra EC, but lately, I've been getting F all. Borg disconnected used to be FULL of useless TRIBBLE I could sell and Onslaugh use to have some pretty decent gear that's half useful. Open world missions would lots of useless gears and good ones every now and then. I just finished 3 mission, barely 4 items. Anyone else get that feeling? I mean, it's just EC, the most useless currency in the game, but I WOULD like to make some credits every now and then to buy some random items.
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  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Overall the ability to generate EC seems to have been dialed back--but the ability to generate any currency without a cash investment seems to have been dialed back. (Observation, not accusation.)

    What I find is that I'm not as affected by it as others have reported themselves to be. I don't have to buy new torpedoes, or fuel, or spare parts; I don't have to pay docking fees at DS9 or ESD. My ship is about as upgraded as it's going to get, based on my playing style and general attitude about such things.

    The majority of the time, I have no expenses, so my income doesn't matter. When there's a new rep or some change in the game that requires expenditures, I find my reserves are up to the task, and back-filling isn't too difficult.

    I have no idea how I managed to get to this place--but here I am, all the same.
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  • nesomumi2nesomumi2 Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Anyone feel they are getting stingy with the loot drops lately? Usually I'd get a inventry full of useless TRIBBLE I'd flog off to get some extra EC, but lately, I've been getting F all. Borg disconnected used to be FULL of useless TRIBBLE I could sell and Onslaugh use to have some pretty decent gear that's half useful. Open world missions would lots of useless gears and good ones every now and then. I just finished 3 mission, barely 4 items. Anyone else get that feeling? I mean, it's just EC, the most useless currency in the game, but I WOULD like to make some credits every now and then to buy some random items.

    lol, EC is useless currency in the game. god you hear stupid things everyday.
  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    whats so stupid about it? I'm not a life time subscriber, my max EC is limited at 10million, I can't buy any of the elite gear thats priced at 100 million. Most of the good gears are bought with dilithium and any beginning gears can be obtained from story mode, I have loads of EC with no where to spend it on? Things you can get under 10 mil isn't work wasting EC on anyway.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    whats so stupid about it? I'm not a life time subscriber, my max EC is limited at 10million, I can't buy any of the elite gear thats priced at 100 million. Most of the good gears are bought with dilithium and any beginning gears can be obtained from story mode, I have loads of EC with no where to spend it on? Things you can get under 10 mil isn't work wasting EC on anyway.

    Then pay 500 zen and get the EC unlock. That and the account bank are two of the things you should go for.
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nesomumi2 wrote: »
    lol, EC is useless currency in the game. god you hear stupid things everyday.

    How is it useless?

    It allows you to buy Lobi/Lockbox ships without having to throw money down the drain, hoping one pops out at you.

    It lets you buy Epic gear without wasting the time (or Dilithium) farming up R&D mats or skill.

    It gets you access to rare and unique DOffs.

    Without having to throw money at STO. How is this useless again?
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    How is it useless?

    It allows you to buy Lobi/Lockbox ships without having to throw money down the drain, hoping one pops out at you.

    It lets you buy Epic gear without wasting the time (or Dilithium) farming up R&D mats or skill.

    It gets you access to rare and unique DOffs.

    Without having to throw money at STO. How is this useless again?

    Erm you are quoting someone who is pulilng up the OP who said it was useles. They are not themselves saying it is useless.
  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    It's also interesting to note that while doing undine battlefield, normally I'd be getting 90 dil 10 mark for every sector I finish. For whatever reason, on one of my other characters, I was only getting 60 dil per sector and 6-8 marks. The last 3 planet killer reward had gone down a few hundred dil as well.
  • abystander0abystander0 Member Posts: 648 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Go do the Undine space battlezone. You can get all sorts of drops in there, and unlike foundry missions, there is no loot cap.
  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    praxi5 wrote: »
    How is it useless?

    It allows you to buy Lobi/Lockbox ships without having to throw money down the drain, hoping one pops out at you.

    It lets you buy Epic gear without wasting the time (or Dilithium) farming up R&D mats or skill.

    It gets you access to rare and unique DOffs.

    Without having to throw money at STO. How is this useless again?

    Like I said earlier, Lockbox and lobi ship are in excess of $100 million EC. For someone who play casually and have limited time to spend, paying to increase the EC cap while never surpassing $5 million EC is pointless.

    When was the last someone was willing to let an EPIC gear go for anything under 10 miliion? Even a Mark XIII console would go for a minimum a few million EC.

    So for someone in my situation, EC is quite useless.
  • abystander0abystander0 Member Posts: 648 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Like I said earlier, Lockbox and lobi ship are in excess of $100 million EC. For someone who play casually and have limited time to spend, paying to increase the EC cap while never surpassing $5 million EC is pointless.

    When was the last someone was willing to let an EPIC gear go for anything under 10 miliion? Even a Mark XIII console would go for a minimum a few million EC.

    So for someone in my situation, EC is quite useless.

    EC is not by any means useless.

    You can easily get the unlock for the EC cap by using the dilithium exchange to get zen and purchasing it from the cstore.

    You can also find many good deals on very rare gear on the exchange for around a million or so EC.

    The only thing holding you back is you.
  • lingeringsoul888lingeringsoul888 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    There are better gears that's much easier to get. Fleet gears cost 20k fleet credit and about 9k of dilithium which can be easily in one night. Wouldn't that be a better option than to grind day after day for a few million EC, which brings me back to the point of decreased loot drops. It just seems sly to reduce items and less drops in hopes we give up and pay. But then again, it could be random as I finished Crystalline catastrophy and got quite a few rare items. Very odd
  • gonaliusgonalius Member Posts: 893 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I've made somewhere in excess of 30 million EC from selling Omega Traces/Slivers this anniversary. The majority I spent on keys because well, why not.

    However, I agree that EC's are generally worthless unless you go for what I class as 'luxury' (Or 'premium') items. Keys, ships, whatever. If you don't want those, then there is nothing really to waste your money on.
  • abystander0abystander0 Member Posts: 648 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Depends on what you are looking for.

    Special kits, and kit modules, boff training PADDS, lockbox stuff and Lobi store items that you cannot get from fleet stores are found on the exchange. Fleet stores are nice, but they don't have everything. EC isn't as hard to get as refined dilithium since you have an 8k dilithium ore refining cap (8.5 with dilithium mine fleet holding). Getting the EC cap removed should be a priority, since it will open more options for you once you get more EC.
  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,714 Community Moderator
    edited February 2015
    Like I said earlier, Lockbox and lobi ship are in excess of $100 million EC. For someone who play casually and have limited time to spend, paying to increase the EC cap while never surpassing $5 million EC is pointless.

    When was the last someone was willing to let an EPIC gear go for anything under 10 miliion? Even a Mark XIII console would go for a minimum a few million EC.

    So for someone in my situation, EC is quite useless.

    EC is only useless to you because you allow it to be. There are plenty of items that cost far far less than 10m EC. You could buy mk 2 items. From there you could buy some tokens to get your items upgraded and save your dilithium to get the upgrades going. Currently while omega upgrades are a thing, you can pair that omega token with a major research boost, and have a 40% chance to upgrade to ultra rare on a mk 2. once it flips to ultra the chance drops to 20% which is still nothing to sneeze at. Up until around mk 8-9 you will have that 40% or 20% chance. Even if you're unlucky enough to get the item to flip, you're still getting a good quality item. If you wanted to you could save your dilithium and convert to zen. In terms of getting gear, there's alot of stuff you could be doing but you're simply not doing judging by your statements here.

    As for the epic gear prices, you're fooling yourself if you think anything epic quality isn't going to be worth a pretty penny. Now that said, simply because something flips to epic quality, that doesn't always mean that it will be in excess of 10m. There are times when I have saw epic items on there for around 8m depending on what it is. You simply have to pay attention. As for the price, epic items are the best quality of item you can get in the game, and once more you can't seriously expect them not to fetch a high price because of that. To create epic items takes time, investment in terms of dilithium, and tokens/upgrades, in order to get to where they are. In STO you get what you pay for in terms of currency such as actual cash, and in-game currency such as EC. You also get what you pay for in terms of effort as well. If you put forth minimal the minimal effort and investment, all you're going to get is the minimum results.

    EC is only useless to you because you allow it to be. I myself was a silver member for nearly 2.5 years before I finally went gold status. Even when I was a silver player, I picked up the EC cap increase, and had an account bank as some basic stuff. While I did sped up the process with actual cash, I was able to get a Jem'Hadar Dreadnaught from lobi crystals. Some other stuff I picked up from EC before going gold were, 2 Cardassian Galors, at least one of every mirror ship before Delta Rising on fed, kdf, and romulan factions for every toon, plus outfitting for all of those ships. Purchases I have made in terms of zen include, the T5 Nebula, Excelsior, Odyssey Tactical, Galaxy Dreadnaught, Galaxy Class, Regent Class, Catian Atrox, Defiant class, Avenger class, Promethius Multi-Vector, Tempest Escort, Bortesqu War Cruiser, Romulan D'deridex, Scimitar 3 pack, Valdore, the Mogai, and T'varo retrofit. I also have a Ferengi D'kora, purchased through EC, plus tholian recluse, and undine dromias purchased through lobi.

    All of this was done by saving a little cash here or there, and flipping stuff in game over the course of several years. The D'kora, Recluse, and Dromias were all picked up after I went gold but the point still stands that you can do quite well in game with or without cash. Now everything that I named off, you yourself could do without ever having to sink a dime into the game. It would take alot long and you would have to bank your resources carefully but you could do it. Instead of doing it you're complaining about stuff. While I agree the loot drops should be a bit better that's another issue entirely. If you want something in this game, then go for it. you can build budget ships that keep up pretty well with the money ships. The only reason you're having no use for all of that is because you allow yourself to have no use.
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  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Like I said earlier, Lockbox and lobi ship are in excess of $100 million EC. For someone who play casually and have limited time to spend, paying to increase the EC cap while never surpassing $5 million EC is pointless.

    When was the last someone was willing to let an EPIC gear go for anything under 10 miliion? Even a Mark XIII console would go for a minimum a few million EC.

    So for someone in my situation, EC is quite useless.

    Again get the EC unlock. It was one of the things I did not regret.I never surpased 8mil while I had the cap as the cap was there and so my aim was staying below it. When I bought the cap remove I soon started building up an EC supply.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    What are you guys arguing about around here?

    You are not supposed to grind easy ec selling loot drops post DR. You may grind spec points in Argala grabing a bit of Kazon trash!

    If you have serious ec needs buy keys and sell em or play pakled for weeks and use the crafting lottery.

    Works as easy as the purchase of Dilithium.

    Cryptic and PWE took multiple precise steps to give us this Star Trek authentic currency free world. You just need to p(l)ay along. :o
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  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Go do the Undine space battlezone. You can get all sorts of drops in there, and unlike foundry missions, there is no loot cap.

    It's my goto spot for ship leveling. marks, dilithium, and junk to sell for ECs. Best of all, there are usually more people there then there are when you do sector patrols in Argala. It's nice to see a ton of ships taking on a ton of enemy ships and being a part of that instead of those goofy sector patrol missions.
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  • hyperionx09hyperionx09 Member Posts: 1,709 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Like I said earlier, Lockbox and lobi ship are in excess of $100 million EC. For someone who play casually and have limited time to spend, paying to increase the EC cap while never surpassing $5 million EC is pointless.

    When was the last someone was willing to let an EPIC gear go for anything under 10 miliion? Even a Mark XIII console would go for a minimum a few million EC.

    So for someone in my situation, EC is quite useless.
    Only because you're not even making a token attempt if you want Epic or Ultra-Rare level gear.

    One can get by on the 10M EC cap now. Even new characters after a bit of EC/Dil farming.

    Thanks to the Upgrade system.

    For less than 500k or so, you can buy at least 1 Superior Tech for the appropriate item and 1 Tech Accelerator. Or if you're hoping to rarity boost an item, 1 Research Accelerator instead. Then you just start saving up the Dil (1075 or 1025 for a single application of a Superior Tech).

    Once you have enough Dil, you use that Superior Tech and Tech Booster (or Research Booster) on your choice Mk I or Mk II item (preferably Very Rare with your choice mods), and upgrade it. That will guarantee a free upgrade up until around Mk VII~VIII depending on whether or not you got lucky and got a higher Rarity before that point.

    A second shot of a Superior Tech + 1 Tech Accelerator will likely last you until around Mk IX~X. A third for XI, and maybe 4th for XII. By this point, if it didn't rarity upgrade early on, you may as well just upgrade it straight to XII or XIII and stop, or raise it to XIV and try with Omega Upgrades.

    For casual new players, by the time they can use XII gear, they've already probably built up some Fleet Cred and Dil, and can start investing in Fleet stuff, or start working on Reputation gear.

    All without ever having to break 10M EC. The only reason you'd want to is to buy things in bulk or buy ships, costumes, and Rare or better gear you cannot get normally (without dedicated grinding or time spent; such as Mastercrafted gear).

    Some say the Upgrade system is a Dil sink, and it may be true when upgrading anything from XIII to XIV (Reputation equipment have the worst upgrade value from XIII to XIV). But if you're looking to try for some easy Ultra Rare or Epic level equipment, it just takes a Mk II item and some luck.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Anyone feel they are getting stingy with the loot drops lately?
    There are some places that are good for getting lots of loot drops. You need to find out where those places are.

    There are better gears that's much easier to get. Fleet gears cost 20k fleet credit and about 9k of dilithium which can be easily in one night. Wouldn't that be a better option than to grind day after day for a few million EC, which brings me back to the point of decreased loot drops. It just seems sly to reduce items and less drops in hopes we give up and pay. But then again, it could be random as I finished Crystalline catastrophy and got quite a few rare items. Very odd
    First off, fleet weapons used to be good but they no longer stand up to high-end crafted gear. Advanced antiproton used to be the best available version of AP weapons. Now crafted AP blows fleet AP away. Elite Fleet weapons can be pretty decent but certain lockbox weapons and crafted weapons with the correct modifiers are superior to advanced fleet weaponry. Some rep weapons are pretty good too. And making EC is EASY. You just need to focus on actually doing it. I make 10 Million + per day. Some make more, much MUCH more.
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  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Anyone feel they are getting stingy with the loot drops lately? Usually I'd get a inventry full of useless TRIBBLE I'd flog off to get some extra EC, but lately, I've been getting F all. Borg disconnected used to be FULL of useless TRIBBLE I could sell and Onslaugh use to have some pretty decent gear that's half useful. Open world missions would lots of useless gears and good ones every now and then. I just finished 3 mission, barely 4 items. Anyone else get that feeling? I mean, it's just EC, the most useless currency in the game, but I WOULD like to make some credits every now and then to buy some random items.

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