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a few thoughts about the future...(of STO)
patrickngo
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Well, let's see...
They removed exploration.
They're removing story missions.
They've removed factions from PvP.
The latest "Expansion" was heavily biased toward the Federation, with all subsequent high-end new ships being made-up-cross-faction Garbage.
Same bugs persist for KDF that were persisting for KDF in 2014,13, 12, 11...
5th Anniversary ship's due to be some kross-Faktion-kobali thing.
I have to wonder: are we seeing a slow build/gear up to deleting the KDF as a faction, or is Cryptic setting up to 'Generic space MMO' when the license deal with CBS expires?
I'm just not seeing much, y'know, future here, esp. for a Star Trek game. Everything done thus far since the change of EP indicates they're either gearing down to remove a faction (KDF), or to remove the last vestiges of Star Trek and use the remnants for another game.
anyhow, the thought's kind of depressing, but what's your take?
They removed exploration.
They're removing story missions.
They've removed factions from PvP.
The latest "Expansion" was heavily biased toward the Federation, with all subsequent high-end new ships being made-up-cross-faction Garbage.
Same bugs persist for KDF that were persisting for KDF in 2014,13, 12, 11...
5th Anniversary ship's due to be some kross-Faktion-kobali thing.
I have to wonder: are we seeing a slow build/gear up to deleting the KDF as a faction, or is Cryptic setting up to 'Generic space MMO' when the license deal with CBS expires?
I'm just not seeing much, y'know, future here, esp. for a Star Trek game. Everything done thus far since the change of EP indicates they're either gearing down to remove a faction (KDF), or to remove the last vestiges of Star Trek and use the remnants for another game.
anyhow, the thought's kind of depressing, but what's your take?
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There is always the possibility of turnaround, but I'm not seeing much effort or dialogue from the powers that be.
If by Space you mean Federation, then yes, the game has already started down that long black road.
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A better idea would be starting a thread , stating your case and giving suggestions on how to go about it
Frankly, I see it as more apathy for KDF/Rom than anything else they made some money off them. But they don't seem willing to add/fix some QoL issues with them we have complained about for awhile.
Ex.... Variety of ships[release those NPC ships as leveling options please], player costume/color choices [would you like dark or darker with that outfit captain], lighting in KDF exchange area [personal pet peeve, course its almost as dark outside you'd think there is no sun till you hit the Ketha lowlands].
Judging by their actions, it seems they would rather non-Federation everything to just go byebye. Historically, Cryptic is plain awful at supporting more than one faction anyway.
The KD who...??? Never heard of 'em...
Look man, this isn't Star Wars, okay?
I'm thinking, dude -- if they wanted to do a T6 upgrade, why not include a Warship Voyager as the promo for Tier 6? PWE/Cryptic employees are beyond incompetent. I mean, if CBS didn't allow it, they could at least tell us. They seem to be beyond vocal about how CBS won't let them do a T5 Connie...why not communicate about Warship Voyager? It seems like the simplest thing ever, but they're rather remain silent like it doesn't matter. If that attitude continues...well, DOOM.
Don't bother. The devs don't care and PWE isn't listening.
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Seriously still caring about factions, when all 3 sides finally put their differences aside at the end of Surface Tension to focus on the Delta quadrant, and when a few of the more recent ships were general copies of Fed ones (Odyssey->Bortesqu, Dyson ships, Avenger->Mogh).
Frankly, I'm more amazed that Cryptic resisted this long in writing in the unification in order to make it a Starfleet-centric game (more than it was previously at least) rather than continue to deal with the nuances and subtleties of each specific faction. They already mostly gave up special Tac/Sci/Eng choices in later missions; I'm not surprised they didn't even attempt a similar system based on faction + race either; ie Fed Betazoid not trusting Dr. Cooper at all, Alien characters having the most dialog variety (so you can really be a "custom" race and personality), or KDF Klingons forcing the broad on old Drozana to drink any random cocktail.
Still, they at least didn't make Starfleet claim the Solanae Dyson Sphere (Romulans are mainly managing it with support from Feds and KDF), So Romulans are still represented in some form. Unlike the KDF, who have practically zero further appearances after.
As far as future planning goes, I expect a return to DS9 at some point and starring a T6 Defiant, or a new original episode chain that "might" star a T6 Galaxy (if not the Flagship trio, them maybe serving below the Flagships). Maybe in the Gamma Quadrant. By then, Roms and KDF would have gotten at least one Sci ship. Maybe with a useless Specialization for that setup (Command Spec Sci ships technically make the cut; most of those abilities would not work well on a Sci ship unlike Intel).
From the very beginning the KDF as a faction was not justified by the plot because petty squabbling when you've got far, far bigger threats out there is absurd.
Now if you insist on a two-faction game that is plot-justified, the setup should have been one of two things: 1) a Cold War that blows up into a hot war between two major alliances of relatively equal tech similar to the Typhon Pact novels and every race and power that matters is on one side or the other or 2) the Dominion War blows up again and you can choose to play Feds, Roms, and KDF as subgroups within the Allies and it being very explicit that if you sign up for those that you are under allied command and expected to bend and temper your natural responses (both sides) to serve the needs of the Alliance. As in, joint command is a fact of life and you either accept it or get out. A variant of this, however, would ally the Roms or Klinks with the Dominion this time around to allow for true PVP and the war must NOT be resolved. The setup must be so out of hand that it will only have periods of lesser and increased violence.
But the thing about the Dominion is that their rule is not SO apocalyptic or their technology SO far outmatched that automatic imbalance or absurdity is introduced into the premise as with Cryptic's current premise (which IMO has undergone an inevitable self-correction for basic reasonableness). A DWII scenario also avoids the problem of opening up so many disparate fronts that the plot loses focus.
Of course the opportunity for this has passed a long time ago, so IMO all we are seeing is the Rule of Natural Consequences in action. The KDF does not matter because the premise of their whole war was absurd compared to the greater threat and therefore has been rendered irrelevant.
Does that mean no KDF play experience should ever have existed? As I show above, it could have been done in a more reasonable fashion. But as the plot is? No. The Fridge Logic is weak with this one.
Ironically, under my "Typhon Pact scenario," I actually would have respected a naked territory grab by the Klingons more than the false pretenses as before because at least they would have been honest about the fact that they hate Fed ways and want territory. And would not be idiotically undermining the whole quadrant like they did in '72 (I blame the Klinks for the Dominion getting a beachhead in the Cardassian Union) in the face of an apocalyptic threat that makes the territory grab look childish.
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the license will not be running out any time soon and Cryptic has the right to renew it so long as they don't TRIBBLE CBS off. CBS has oversight over everything that goes into the game, they don't like it, it doesn't go in.
exploration was removed because it was boring and broken.
PVP faction teaming was turned off because people were demanding it be turned off.
the missions being added to replace the ones removed are much nicer, much more interesting, much more involved, tie into the story better, not filler based crud and much more fun.
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Most of the points in the OP are found in the Frequently Created Threads (F.C.T) and this is quickly turning into another doom thread, so /closed