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I'm getting pretty frustrated here. I'm level 55 and struggling pretty badly. The enemy ships are pretty hard to kill especially this certain ship in this mission called "Enemies in All the Usual Places". Basically all the Delta missions are really hard.
The Normal mode is still pretty hard, and I'm to the point to replay some older mission over and over again just to get up to level 60, because the Delta missions are really hard on Normal. The changes to the difficilties are still pretty bad.
The Normal mode is still pretty hard, and I'm to the point to replay some older mission over and over again just to get up to level 60, because the Delta missions are really hard on Normal. The changes to the difficilties are still pretty bad.
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I was Klingon before Klingon was cool.
Maybe its just time to overhaul you build, eh?
Now that they seriously buffed all npc's shield & hull HP there's a lot less face rolling if you don't have some decent gear and playstyle.
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=qibintelbattlecruiser1st_9155
I'm also having like 2minute cool downs
have you considered teaming with somebody to power through some those missions?
give me a holler in-game and i will team with you, and we will wreck those patrols.
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It is frustrating. It was meant, apparently, to challenge the average player coming out of level 50 with half decent gear and builds, but is terribly difficult for new players, to the point of being too hard for someone that just got the game and is going 1-60 without stopping at 50 to gear up.
I have a ton of characters. My best did DR missions on advanced without incident at all --- just vaporized the enemy. But he is a rom tac captain with everything under the sun in hand.
My weaker characters had some trouble and I had to gut several of them to rebuild them well enough to do the content. With the right BO skills, a half decent ship, and reasonable gear, it is quite doable. It took some time and effort to rebuild them --- several were in quite a state as I had built them with very little knowledge of game mechanics or what I was doing. I learned a bit along the way from it and all my characters are better now.
It is very doable. Get some help with your build, put a little energy into understanding how the game works, and the normal mode DR trash should melt. You might still get killed a few times.... NPC deathprojectiles will do that .... but all in all it should go from extremely difficult to "not too bad" with a bit of work.
I would replace the cannons with beam arrays and move the torp forward. If you are intent on staying with cannons, go with 3 dual heavy cannons fore with torp, 4 turrets aft. You could even go all cannons fore or add a dual beam bank for overload.
Work on getting some embassy science consoles if you can (recommend -TH and plasma proc).
Replace your tac consoles with fleet spire consoles (+CRTH or critical hit).
Start replacing your deflector/engine/shield with rep stuff - one suggestion would be assimilated set.
Get a kinetic cutting beam from Omega rep along with its associated console. Put the cutting beam iin one of your rear weap slots.
Replace your weapons with fleet versions or those you unlock via rep progression. I would advise trying to get as many +CRTD (crit damage) mods as you can - more CRTH is useful as well.
Get your weapons (and consoles) to MKIV if you can.
Regarding your cooldowns, are you putting skillpoints in the skills associated with your bridge officers? That is the only thing I can think of that would keep your cooldowns abnormally high.
I think I got everything right - apologies if I missed anything. There are plenty of people here that can provide advice if needed.
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i do think the build needs to go with either beams or cannons. that is probably the major liability here.
the bridge officer skills could use a bit of refinement as well. tt, apb, faw or whatnot for a beambot as an example.
all that can be done for pretty much no cost.
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Two minute cooldowns are due to subnucleonic beam. You need to have Science Team to clear it, I'd replace Polarize Hull with it.
Your build seems to be a mix of different eras of STO's past, not horrible, but not that great for STO as it is now.
Here's what I would do, with fairly cheap gear from the Exchange, and the Neutroniums you can get early on in the Delta missions:
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=iceaxerevisedqib_0
Mixing cannons and beams is rarely a good idea in STO. With Surgical Strikes, the Qib excels as a beam boat.
You should probably drop the two Universal clickies I put in once you start getting Reputation consoles, but they're nice consoles. They're from cross-faction packs on Exchange under Reward Packs. For the Projected Singularity, make sure you get a (Klingon) box, as you can't claim it from the cheaper Fed box.
The other side of that is a lot of times the people they attract to the game have never played an mmorpg before because the only thing attracting them is the franchise of Star Trek. Not to mention that there are so many gimmicks that turns away players too especially those who haven't dealt with canon of anything vs how game mechanics turn out. Like for instance taking the b'rel from undiscovered country most any fan of that battle from the movie is expecting something as close as possible to that but what they find is that the whole thing is just a gimmick and builds that are somewhat playable don't really feel star trek but something from some other space game. So that is another aspect of it game mechanics, gimmicks, and the players expectations are their own self destruction to the normal not so normal lol.
As others said, mix cannons and beams is generally an odd idea. It actually is OK to do with surgical strike ships, so you might be able to pull off an interesting setup this way, but it is still odd.
Beam arrays and cannons, though? That is another issue entirely. You need to bring firepower onto your target. One way to do this is to slot 8 beam arrays, turn sideways, and hit with all 8 as a "broadside". As it stands, either your cannons are shooting the target, or you are pounding with a few arrays, but you never have ALL your guns on the target at once. Same goes for the torp...
there are only really 3 or 4 builds that bring your weapons to bear on a target. All cannons --- turrets aft, DHC up front, will do it. All beam arrays, turned sideways, will do it. And the famous Ap build ... Dual beam banks front (with, or without, one torp is up to you) and aft you have the kinetic beam, omni beam, and crafted omni beam, and either a turret or mines for the 4th aft weapon on 4/4 ships. And we can lump all the other builds that bring weapons to bear as "oddball" (all turrets, for example) and not worth talking about here. Pick one of those 3 setups, with or without some mines or torps if you really want them (but beam arrays and torps do not mix well, torps go with cannons or DBB better). Again, because of surgical strikes X 2 copies, you *could* carry a DBB/cannon build or something weird and get away with it... that would be OK, but it MUST bring at least 7 weapons to bear on the target at one time.
Officer skills...
reverse shield polarity is awesome but the cooldown is so long it is of dubious value at higher levels. If you want damage, perhaps swap this out for power to weapons?
you *should* probably have surgical strikes, 2 copies, on that cmdr intel guy. I also like override safeties, at least 1 copy.
with SS being your main attack, your tac guy can sprout a copy of beta, maybe even 2 copies?
you lack tac team... 1 copy of that might do wonders for your durability.
if you toss the torp out, you could use the ensign for a sci team or transfer shields to heal your shields.
so looks like
tac: tac team 1, pattern beta, pattern beta (BONUS: after you have some specialization points, you can have pattern beta apply a temporary hit point buff to yourself... on every use... )
eng: eng team, power to shield, powr to weapon
intel: any, OSS2, SS1, SS2
sci: no change
uni: shield heal
give that a try -- it is an all energy weapons setup, again, if you want a torp, something has to give somewhere.
This is an offense themed build.
Good advice, however getting any rep gear is currently next to impossible, given the state of the advance queues. I have only obtained a handful of neuroprocessor since DR came out.
first: decide if you want a frontal or a broadside build.
dont equip thousands of passive resists, you need to kill stuf, you wont take much dmg if its dead.
build a) frontal: 1-2 torplaunchers (1 quantum +1 vaadwaur cluster), dual heavy cannons 2x, aft: 2xturrets, 1 omni crafted array 1 ancient ap omni-array
tactical station: spread3 or HY3 is must have to get some dmg to the hull
tactical consoles: zero point chamber x3
activate omega shearing trait (if there, needs rep omega tier2, otherwise switch quantum with plasma torpedo and corresponding consoles)
basically that should make it possible to kill things even on advanced level.
build b) broadside just switch the dual cannons with arrays and replace turrets aft with arrays too.
make shure your tactical BOs feature APbeta and torpedospread/hy.
Thanks, and thanks everyone. I'll see if I can do it now.