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Proton/Protonic Polaron build help!
mhall85
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Thinking about starting a Polaron build for my Bug ship, and I'm thinking of doing a cannon build.
I'm liking the Dyson space weapon set, but I only have the torpedo and the console. I see that the Dyson Proton Weapon acts like a beam and a cannon, so pairing that with protonic polaron seems like a fun choice.
Question: should I go with Fleet Locators (for CrtD) or some of the Dyson TAC consoles (for Polaron and Proton damage buff)?
I'm liking the Dyson space weapon set, but I only have the torpedo and the console. I see that the Dyson Proton Weapon acts like a beam and a cannon, so pairing that with protonic polaron seems like a fun choice.
Question: should I go with Fleet Locators (for CrtD) or some of the Dyson TAC consoles (for Polaron and Proton damage buff)?
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@console: use fleet locators (CrtH) - exploiters are CrtD
The idea of the proc is neat, but making it reliable enough is a different matter.
To make your Proton damage hit harder (Dyson Set "Proton Barrage" and Proton Dmg Proc) there are a few means of improving it, 1 being the Dyson TAC Consoles. But those TAC Consoles are bad compromises:
- Half-assed buff to the basic damage type
- Half-assed buff to Proton Dmg
- Acc buff, not CritH or CritD
Compared to Spire TAC Consoles that give a far stronger basic damage type buff while providing a far more important CritH or CritD buff but does not buff Proton Dmg.
Increases to CritH is important because the Protonic Proc is based on a 25% chance to occur IF you Crit Hit. Stuffing Dyson TAC Consoles makes your Crit Hit more unreliable but have a stronger Proton Dmg when it does Proc. Stuffing Spire TAC Consoles makes your Crit Hit better but does not increase your Proton Dmg.
Also, theorizing here and have not put into practice:
- Roms of course can achieve some insane Crit buffs due to Captain & BOFF Romulan Operative / Superior Romulan Operative Traits stacking. This would help mitigate the loss of Crit Hit by using Dyson TAC Consoles, but that's still a significant slap against Crit Hit.
- Intel Ships utilizing Surgical Strikes that have a very high +Acc and +CritH buff.
Some good things to think about, thanks!
And I could throw the set on my Phantom, but the only thing stopping me is the Heavy Phaser Lance. If I'm already rocking Proton & Protonic Polaron... then the Lance will not benefit from any added buffs from my TAC consoles (assuming the Lance gets a buff from TAC consoles).
The set bonuses are what is attracting me to the idea.
If he dosent boost the proton proc ... there is no point to use protonic polaron anymore , thoron infused polaron is much better, it has 3 modifiers not 2.
Protonic Polaron was 'sketchy' to begin with. A good indicator of whether a build and weapon choice is good, is that you see them in orbit, and used in the queues.
In the rare chances you actually do get into a pug, how many are using protonic polaron or for that matter the dyson class destroyers? 1 in 20? 1 in 200? 1 in 2000?
"Thoron Infused Polaron" offends me. :P
It offends me because it's gold-colored, and it refuses to use a hyphen.
By boosting the CrtH you are boosting damage as well as the chance to proc, but not the proc itself. If you boost the proc itself (proton) you have to sacrifice some of the consoles that would otherwise boost your CrtH. ...and as for thoron, minor dot, minor debuff and a placate that's broken after x damage isn't going to help your dps any.
Link to 40k dps sarr theln drain build
Or if I like to shoot goolllllllllddd everywhere with no regard to effectiveness.
Other than those situations, I'd never willingly use Thorons.
That means yes to the experimental weapon and yes to the dyson engine-shield-et al full set. I use four of the hybrid pol/pro/acc boosting tac consoles. Don't underestimate how powerful your "proton barrage" will become when you do this. Also, the experimental weapon all but requires it to be effective.
Alternatively, you could blend the CritH spire consoles with the pol/pro/acc ones, either 1+3 or 2+2. But you will lose base damage from proton barrage, experimental proton weapon, and protonic procs.
Basically, you want to emphasize critH and Acc in any protonic build. The more acc the more hits you get, the more hits the more opportunities to crit, the more crits the more opportunity for proc. If you are a fed, replace your tac boffs with the blue quality male romulan boffs from the embassy- they have the superior operative trait, which boosts critH and CritD.
Other things to consider:
I know you are talking about a bug, but ships with ample offensive science slots can take advantage of the proton proc that many science abilities recieve from shield refrequencer consoles.
The Dyson Sci Destroyers also have that dual heavy protonic cannon- again, you want to slot at least three of the pol/pro/acc consoles to take full advantage. Even the free version of that ship (free T-5U upgrade as well) is viable in PvE and PvP.
I love playing a hybrid tac/sci role, so for me the Dyson ship is the perfect outlet and indeed the best ship for taking full advantage of everything that protonic polaron has to offer.
For other ships, don't be afraid to use those weird hybrid tac consoles, and imrpove your Acc and CritH by hook or by crook.
Good Luck!