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flash525
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Specifically those earned via the Lock Boxes and Lobi Store. I know this has been brought up before, but I don't recall it having being mentioned recently at all, so I thought it okay to bring it up again, with [what I believe to be] a fair compromise.
If we presently exclude the lock boxed ships and focus on the lobi ships - these ships are purchased with lobi, which by definition is account bound, yet the ships are not, and they're hardly cheap. Based on percentage, it's probably more affordable to open Lock Boxes with the intent to acquire enough lobi and purchase a ship from the Crystal Consortium than it would be to pay the fees on master keys, thus by definition the ships from the lobi store are cheaper, and more practical if said player is on a budget.
One thing I have always felt to be wrong with this system (that is, the whole lock box system) is that players have to unlock any given ship a second (or more) time on other characters when - in my opinion - they've already won the lottery.
T5R Zen ships cost (on average) 2500zen, and they are then account-wide unlocks. The same goes for T6 (but obviously at 3000zen). I wouldn't like to think about how much Zen the average player would spend to get their hands on a Lock Box ship. Suffice to say, with regard to the account basis - how about a compromise?
If any given player has any of the Lock Box ships already on a character, why not then offer that ship to them (again) by means of the C-Store? Treat it like it was a new release (so full price; 2500/3000zen) but allow them to purchase what they already have earned.
I know this still wont sit well with some people - cause you've already paid for the ship(s) in question - but I'm trying to meet Cryptic in the middle here, and for your benefit. This is a selfless post - I don't own, nor will I ever own a Lock Box ship (I prefer to play with faction ships and, in the case of my Republic character, the Breen ones). I have no interest in Lock Box/Lobi ships myself, though this is a compromise (potential) for you.
If we presently exclude the lock boxed ships and focus on the lobi ships - these ships are purchased with lobi, which by definition is account bound, yet the ships are not, and they're hardly cheap. Based on percentage, it's probably more affordable to open Lock Boxes with the intent to acquire enough lobi and purchase a ship from the Crystal Consortium than it would be to pay the fees on master keys, thus by definition the ships from the lobi store are cheaper, and more practical if said player is on a budget.
One thing I have always felt to be wrong with this system (that is, the whole lock box system) is that players have to unlock any given ship a second (or more) time on other characters when - in my opinion - they've already won the lottery.
T5R Zen ships cost (on average) 2500zen, and they are then account-wide unlocks. The same goes for T6 (but obviously at 3000zen). I wouldn't like to think about how much Zen the average player would spend to get their hands on a Lock Box ship. Suffice to say, with regard to the account basis - how about a compromise?
If any given player has any of the Lock Box ships already on a character, why not then offer that ship to them (again) by means of the C-Store? Treat it like it was a new release (so full price; 2500/3000zen) but allow them to purchase what they already have earned.
I know this still wont sit well with some people - cause you've already paid for the ship(s) in question - but I'm trying to meet Cryptic in the middle here, and for your benefit. This is a selfless post - I don't own, nor will I ever own a Lock Box ship (I prefer to play with faction ships and, in the case of my Republic character, the Breen ones). I have no interest in Lock Box/Lobi ships myself, though this is a compromise (potential) for you.
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But aside from the "money-grubbing" and "we haven't gotten around to do something about it yet" options for explaining Cryptic's implementation of this, it could be part of the CBS provision for such "rare" ships as player ships. If you could unlock them easily on every account, then every of your characters could have them - which makes it a lot less rare than if only one of the multiple chars you might play over time.
Now this would require the approval of CBS Studios, who have already said 'NO' to the wide availability of Alien Ships, which is why they are Lockbox and Lobi Store ships to begin with... So this is unlikely to happen...
EDIT - I stand corrected. It is NOT in the FCT but it probably should be added.
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A casual look at your team in queues or sector space might reveal that there are tons of "inappropriate" ships flying around. By now everyone who ever wanted one of those ships has one.
The CBS thing is a hoax, I believe it's about money and nothing else. Unless you also believe that they removed Exploration because of the download size of the game, instad of removing an easy crafting mats farm location.
If there are this many 'Alien Ships' without widespread Z-Store availability, how much worse would it be if this was so? (Though Cryptic probably doesn't care about this, just as long as they follow 'the letter of the law' of the CBS decision...)
'Green' and 'Blue' crafting materials are readily available from Doff scan assignments, even without exploration. You also forgot to mention that the Exploration random mission generation never really worked well, with obvious plot holes (e.g. the Borg seeking political influence ?!?!) and Away-Team members dropping through holes in the map, becoming trapped and unusable...
The reclaimed ships would be character bind on pickup too, making them unsellable, unlike their lockbox equivalent's.
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Not only would this provide the players with more choices and make the game gradually more alt-friendly, but it would not change the Exchange value any; since many would still need to buy one of the ships to unlock it for their account, and in Cryptic's favor, some might prefer to still gamble on Lockboxes for the Lobi and ships instead.
Additionally, this does help the players with maxed out Ship slots; it would allow them to retire some of the otherwise rare ships they own and reclaim them later; provided they did buy the C-Store version to claim again as-needed.
It's easy money too for Cryptic; full price of an Account Unlock for 1 ship + however much Zen it took to obtain the other ships (125/Key X however many times it took for a Lockbox or Lobi ship, or however many Promotions it took to get a Sheshar/JHAS/Bulwark). Hell, if they still think they won't make a profit off those, they could bump the cost of the C-Store T5 versions to be 3000 even (taking into account that they can be upgraded to T5-U).
Woot? :eek: So, that's why everyone gets to fly Breen ships for free then?
I guess, there is some false information out there.
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thay should just add the ships to lobi store aply chances to get other things higher and dubble the max lobi reward that's it make things only purchasable once per toon to make thare money back some and not be waisting the players as that must cause rage quiting
they should just make all boxh/lobi ships accwhide and every1s cool
Seriously, how many "CBS vetoed...." urban legends are out there?
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