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Can't pvp anymore cause everyone has cloak
hoshino1
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Alright Cryptic. I have a problem, and I want you to fix it. I don't know how, but please do something.
I am a tactical captain, as many are. I like to pvp, which is what this post is about, and why it is in the pvp section. Everything I am about to say is only with regard to pvp.
Here is the problem:
I can't pvp anymore because everyone has cloaking.
Details (if you care to read them; otherwise you could stop there):
I go into ker'rat or a pvp arena, or capture and hold, and I see an empty battle field. I hear the wind howling. I see a tumble weed blow across the field. I open the search menu to see who is here. There are 12 people here, but they are all invisible. This happens a lot. This is because Cryptic gave everyone cloaking. At this point everyone has it. Feds have it, Klingons have it. Romulans have it.
I am first to admit that cloaking in pvp is very powerful. Feds not having it was probably unbalanced. You can't value cloaking in terms of defense or healing, or dps either. Sure, you can compare the value of a healing move to the value of a dps move because one is DPS while one is negative dps. You can compare the value of that to a damage reduction move. How in the world do you compare the value of say, a dps move to the value of cloaking though?
If you see a pile of enemies coming at you that you would have no hope of beating, you just cloak. If you see a strong enemy, you can wait till they are weak before you attack, or you can wait till they are alone. There is no way to place a value on that. The only way to balance it was to give it to everyone.
In the past though, at least someone couldn't cloak. Then people would attack them, but in doing so, they would decloak. Then others would attack them. Then others would attack them. At least with SOMEONE to be the bait, something would at least happen.
Now, none of us can find each other, so we can't pvp. Instead we all just sit there and talk in the chat channel trying to taunt each other into decloaking or making some kind of other mistake because that is all we can do.
Eventually, someone will get tired of waiting and decloak. Then someone will decloak, and 1-shot the first guy because everyone does so much damage now. Then someone will decloak and 1 shot him. Then I will decloak and 1 shot that guy. Then someone will decloak and 1 shot me. Then someone will decloak and 1 shot him. Then we reset, wait another 10 minutes till someone gets angry and decloaks, and we do it again.
Defense is almost pointless. It is nearly impossible to survive at this point. For example: I run reverse shield polarity. This should grant me virtual immunity from energy weapons for the duration. I have maybe 10,000-14,000 shield HP per facing depending on the ship I am flying. When I hear someone decloak to kill me, I pop reverse shield polarity in the hopes that it will outlast their big alpha / vapr strike buff duration, which is usually 10 sec or less (but reverse shield polarity is also 10 sec).
Yes, reverse shield polarity does, in fact, refill my shields to full instantly after each blast, but the fact of the matter is that with surgical strikes, their crit rate is over 50%, so more than half of every shot they fire does over 30,000 damage. Even though my shields are "immune," the shield facing takes 12,000 damage, but then the other 18,000 damage from that same strike carries through to my hull. Therefore, every strike actually 1 shots my shield facing from full down to 0, and carries through more than half of the remaining force of the strike to my hull. The shields refill to full every shot, but even that isn't good enough anymore.
I suppose that everyone being able to kill everyone else on the first salvo is technically "balanced." It is kinda like one of those hyper realistic first person shooters where if you get hit at all, you are probably dead. The problem is... that's not fun. At least not for me. This is a game. We should play a game for fun. If there is an aspect of the game that isn't fun, we probably shouldn't play that aspect of the game. Therefore, if they want players to partake in every aspect of the game, ideally, every aspect of the game should be fun if possible.
That being said: Personally, I like to have some back and forth in my pvp: You do this, but I counter with that. Then you counter with this other thing, then I do this. Then you do that. AHH! Good game sir! You beat me. That sort of thing.
Pvp these days also doesn't feel "Star Treky." The battles are supposed to last a while.
Also, just to let you know, tractor beam repulsors does full kinetic damage even through shields and can be pumped to do multiple thousands of damage per tick. People are using it to kill others, but since it is kinetic damage it should be reduced by a massive percentage if shields are up, but apparently it is glitched. That needs to be fixed too.
Anyways... back to cloaking. The only way I can see to still do pvp, is if I can find an enemy. In order to do that, I need to be able to take their cloaking away from them, but with everyone 1 shotting each other, I also need to see them first. The only answer I can think of is to make a science captain, and pump the heck out of sensors, spec for sensors, use sensor science consoles, use emergency power to aux for the perception bonus, use a deflector that boosts sensors and stealth detection percentage, and use the main ability: sensor scan, which is science captain only.
I have tried this on my tac character, without sensor scan. It isn't good enough. You need sensor scan to make this work.
Problem is... I play a tac character and I would need to make a science toon to make this plan work. At this point, the way Cryptic has the game designed, that is simply too much to ask of me. I feel like they are really telling us to just pick 1 character and focus on it. It is too much work. I am not willing to do it. Think about it. In order to be competitive in pvp, you need to have a relatively maxed out character. I would need to:
1) Grind up all my reputations again (though I would have sponsorship, I simply don't want to do it.)
2) Grind up to max level.
3) Buy my Lobi consoles again, or do without them: I refuse.
4) Grind out all my specialization points again that were added in delta rising, which I am STILL not even done grinding out on my main tac character. (The amount of power gained from all the specialization points is enough that if your opponent has it maxed out, and you don't, you are at a significant disadvantage, so YES, you really should do it to be more competitive in pvp.)
5) Grind out a bunch of dilithium so I can buy a bunch of gear sets again for the new science character because rep gear is bound to character, not to account, so your other characters can't use it.
6) Grind out even more dilithium so I can upgrade that gear to MK 14.
7) Grind out enough EC's to buy the tech upgrades to upgrade the gear to MK 14.
Summary: 1) GRIND 2) GRIND 3) Pay cryptic money, or grind really REALLY hard. 4) GRIND 5) GRIND 6) GRIND 7) GRIND
No. I refuse. I am a pvper. I want to pvp. I can't. The game isn't set up for it anymore. I can think of a solution (Make a science captain), but I would sooner simply quit than to go through that much trouble just for the privilege of using sensor scan, just so I can find a target to pvp with.
Now I don't care what type of solution Cryptic implements, but I am asking you to please fix it.
Ideas:
1) You could give everyone sensor scan, but that would pretty much just be taking cloaking away from everyone, after handing it out to everyone.
2) You could let me move my lobi consoles, and rep gear over to my other characters on my account through the account bank. That would make me more likely to make the science character because I wouldn't have to grind up reps again, nor would I need to pay the dilithium for another copy of a set I already have on the same account, nor would I have to pay the dilithium and EC's to upgrade it again. I wouldn't have to buy my lobi consoles twice.
3) Make the specialization points earned account wide so you can earn them once, but don't have to grind it all out for every character.
4) Make specialization points a non factor in pvp? They only boost power in pve where you are not directly opposing another character.
5) Make defense builds strong enough to, somehow, resist the initial alpha / vaper strike duration if they are willing to be the bait by not cloaking (at least temporarily, then maybe their defense goes down after the big initial burst is over?).
I understand that many people would tell me that Cryptic actually wants us to go through all that extra effort grind out a new character with all the difficulties because it makes them more money and makes me play the game longer, and that is fine, but Cryptic needs to be very careful with that. There is a limit to how hard and long they can make people grind. If they make people grind too hard or too long, people will simply quit rather than play the game longer. Thus, in attempting to make people play longer, they have actually done the exact opposite of their intent by driving people away in frustration. Don't push too hard or you will get a backlash.
In this case, I like pvp. I want to do it. Everyone is invisible, so I can't. I see a solution (Make a science character that can detect cloaked ships). It takes more effort than I want to invest to allow me to continue to pvp. I would sooner simply not pvp, but if I can't pvp, I might as well not play because that is what I like to do. Thus, to examine a micro case, my backlash is that the push was too hard, and I would sooner quit. In wanting me to play longer, what they actually get is me playing zero, which is less than I would otherwise play. I don't actually want to quit though, which is why I am pointing out the problem in the hopes that Cryptic might do something about it so that I come back and play more.
I am a tactical captain, as many are. I like to pvp, which is what this post is about, and why it is in the pvp section. Everything I am about to say is only with regard to pvp.
Here is the problem:
I can't pvp anymore because everyone has cloaking.
Details (if you care to read them; otherwise you could stop there):
I go into ker'rat or a pvp arena, or capture and hold, and I see an empty battle field. I hear the wind howling. I see a tumble weed blow across the field. I open the search menu to see who is here. There are 12 people here, but they are all invisible. This happens a lot. This is because Cryptic gave everyone cloaking. At this point everyone has it. Feds have it, Klingons have it. Romulans have it.
I am first to admit that cloaking in pvp is very powerful. Feds not having it was probably unbalanced. You can't value cloaking in terms of defense or healing, or dps either. Sure, you can compare the value of a healing move to the value of a dps move because one is DPS while one is negative dps. You can compare the value of that to a damage reduction move. How in the world do you compare the value of say, a dps move to the value of cloaking though?
If you see a pile of enemies coming at you that you would have no hope of beating, you just cloak. If you see a strong enemy, you can wait till they are weak before you attack, or you can wait till they are alone. There is no way to place a value on that. The only way to balance it was to give it to everyone.
In the past though, at least someone couldn't cloak. Then people would attack them, but in doing so, they would decloak. Then others would attack them. Then others would attack them. At least with SOMEONE to be the bait, something would at least happen.
Now, none of us can find each other, so we can't pvp. Instead we all just sit there and talk in the chat channel trying to taunt each other into decloaking or making some kind of other mistake because that is all we can do.
Eventually, someone will get tired of waiting and decloak. Then someone will decloak, and 1-shot the first guy because everyone does so much damage now. Then someone will decloak and 1 shot him. Then I will decloak and 1 shot that guy. Then someone will decloak and 1 shot me. Then someone will decloak and 1 shot him. Then we reset, wait another 10 minutes till someone gets angry and decloaks, and we do it again.
Defense is almost pointless. It is nearly impossible to survive at this point. For example: I run reverse shield polarity. This should grant me virtual immunity from energy weapons for the duration. I have maybe 10,000-14,000 shield HP per facing depending on the ship I am flying. When I hear someone decloak to kill me, I pop reverse shield polarity in the hopes that it will outlast their big alpha / vapr strike buff duration, which is usually 10 sec or less (but reverse shield polarity is also 10 sec).
Yes, reverse shield polarity does, in fact, refill my shields to full instantly after each blast, but the fact of the matter is that with surgical strikes, their crit rate is over 50%, so more than half of every shot they fire does over 30,000 damage. Even though my shields are "immune," the shield facing takes 12,000 damage, but then the other 18,000 damage from that same strike carries through to my hull. Therefore, every strike actually 1 shots my shield facing from full down to 0, and carries through more than half of the remaining force of the strike to my hull. The shields refill to full every shot, but even that isn't good enough anymore.
I suppose that everyone being able to kill everyone else on the first salvo is technically "balanced." It is kinda like one of those hyper realistic first person shooters where if you get hit at all, you are probably dead. The problem is... that's not fun. At least not for me. This is a game. We should play a game for fun. If there is an aspect of the game that isn't fun, we probably shouldn't play that aspect of the game. Therefore, if they want players to partake in every aspect of the game, ideally, every aspect of the game should be fun if possible.
That being said: Personally, I like to have some back and forth in my pvp: You do this, but I counter with that. Then you counter with this other thing, then I do this. Then you do that. AHH! Good game sir! You beat me. That sort of thing.
Pvp these days also doesn't feel "Star Treky." The battles are supposed to last a while.
Also, just to let you know, tractor beam repulsors does full kinetic damage even through shields and can be pumped to do multiple thousands of damage per tick. People are using it to kill others, but since it is kinetic damage it should be reduced by a massive percentage if shields are up, but apparently it is glitched. That needs to be fixed too.
Anyways... back to cloaking. The only way I can see to still do pvp, is if I can find an enemy. In order to do that, I need to be able to take their cloaking away from them, but with everyone 1 shotting each other, I also need to see them first. The only answer I can think of is to make a science captain, and pump the heck out of sensors, spec for sensors, use sensor science consoles, use emergency power to aux for the perception bonus, use a deflector that boosts sensors and stealth detection percentage, and use the main ability: sensor scan, which is science captain only.
I have tried this on my tac character, without sensor scan. It isn't good enough. You need sensor scan to make this work.
Problem is... I play a tac character and I would need to make a science toon to make this plan work. At this point, the way Cryptic has the game designed, that is simply too much to ask of me. I feel like they are really telling us to just pick 1 character and focus on it. It is too much work. I am not willing to do it. Think about it. In order to be competitive in pvp, you need to have a relatively maxed out character. I would need to:
1) Grind up all my reputations again (though I would have sponsorship, I simply don't want to do it.)
2) Grind up to max level.
3) Buy my Lobi consoles again, or do without them: I refuse.
4) Grind out all my specialization points again that were added in delta rising, which I am STILL not even done grinding out on my main tac character. (The amount of power gained from all the specialization points is enough that if your opponent has it maxed out, and you don't, you are at a significant disadvantage, so YES, you really should do it to be more competitive in pvp.)
5) Grind out a bunch of dilithium so I can buy a bunch of gear sets again for the new science character because rep gear is bound to character, not to account, so your other characters can't use it.
6) Grind out even more dilithium so I can upgrade that gear to MK 14.
7) Grind out enough EC's to buy the tech upgrades to upgrade the gear to MK 14.
Summary: 1) GRIND 2) GRIND 3) Pay cryptic money, or grind really REALLY hard. 4) GRIND 5) GRIND 6) GRIND 7) GRIND
No. I refuse. I am a pvper. I want to pvp. I can't. The game isn't set up for it anymore. I can think of a solution (Make a science captain), but I would sooner simply quit than to go through that much trouble just for the privilege of using sensor scan, just so I can find a target to pvp with.
Now I don't care what type of solution Cryptic implements, but I am asking you to please fix it.
Ideas:
1) You could give everyone sensor scan, but that would pretty much just be taking cloaking away from everyone, after handing it out to everyone.
2) You could let me move my lobi consoles, and rep gear over to my other characters on my account through the account bank. That would make me more likely to make the science character because I wouldn't have to grind up reps again, nor would I need to pay the dilithium for another copy of a set I already have on the same account, nor would I have to pay the dilithium and EC's to upgrade it again. I wouldn't have to buy my lobi consoles twice.
3) Make the specialization points earned account wide so you can earn them once, but don't have to grind it all out for every character.
4) Make specialization points a non factor in pvp? They only boost power in pve where you are not directly opposing another character.
5) Make defense builds strong enough to, somehow, resist the initial alpha / vaper strike duration if they are willing to be the bait by not cloaking (at least temporarily, then maybe their defense goes down after the big initial burst is over?).
I understand that many people would tell me that Cryptic actually wants us to go through all that extra effort grind out a new character with all the difficulties because it makes them more money and makes me play the game longer, and that is fine, but Cryptic needs to be very careful with that. There is a limit to how hard and long they can make people grind. If they make people grind too hard or too long, people will simply quit rather than play the game longer. Thus, in attempting to make people play longer, they have actually done the exact opposite of their intent by driving people away in frustration. Don't push too hard or you will get a backlash.
In this case, I like pvp. I want to do it. Everyone is invisible, so I can't. I see a solution (Make a science character that can detect cloaked ships). It takes more effort than I want to invest to allow me to continue to pvp. I would sooner simply not pvp, but if I can't pvp, I might as well not play because that is what I like to do. Thus, to examine a micro case, my backlash is that the push was too hard, and I would sooner quit. In wanting me to play longer, what they actually get is me playing zero, which is less than I would otherwise play. I don't actually want to quit though, which is why I am pointing out the problem in the hopes that Cryptic might do something about it so that I come back and play more.
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But everything they said has already been answered countless times...Hell, was answered before there even were Roms with Feds moaning about the KDF...meh. Guess I'm just tired of folks not even trying to search for stuff.
Right, but it's not like they just introduced PvP moments before he decided to try it.
Forum Search.
Google Search.
Etc, etc, etc.
It would be one thing to say, "Hey, I've read through some of the information that was out there but I've got some additional questions or thoughts..." and it's another to say the same damn thing that's been said countless times because nobody ever looks first.
It's just a big ol' pile of whine taking place, mixing some of the old whine in with some of the newer whine...where almost all of it has already been answered ad nauseum.
If it was some kind of new and interesting whine, it would be one thing...it's just kicking the pile of dust that was the dead horse years ago.
Jem Deflector
TDF
Astrophysicist Trait
Intelligence Fleet
High Aux
Sci Vessel/Carrier have better SDR ratios
EPtA
Acetons, Mines
Super Bosted Grav Wells
Spying/Triangulating with Pets
Listening
The list goes on and on and on of things that basically make Cloak pointless in PvP. Was discussing it with somebody the other day, and the problem that arises is not in not being able to see the cloakers - but that the match could take forever because they'll never engage.
It's one of the biggest things folks whine about when it's one of the things with the most ways folks can counter it. They just don't want to make any changes...they don't want to bother trying to fly with anybody that is running the build...etc, etc, etc. Just the same old whining garbage that plagues multiple areas of the game.
Meanwhile, the EPtA boost to stealth still doesn't work. The boost from the Rom/Rem Deflectors still doesn't work. Etc, etc, etc...
I went through and did the "nice guy" trying to answer stuff for 2012, 2013, and 2014...it's 2015, people can learn to freakin' search.
I am not even asking for something for me. I am asking for there to be enemies that people can see, so that pvp actually occurs more frequently than just when someone gets lucky and finds someone else or someone gets tired of waiting and decloaks just to be the bait so at least something happens.
Most these posts above mine basically state:
"We are offended that you voiced that you respectfully expressed (with details) exactly why you are displeased about anything, in any capacity. You aren't ever allowed to complain about anything with regard to pvp in any way ever unless it is something we haven't heard before. You aren't allowed to put a metaphorical 3x5 card for your desire of wanting it to be different into our "Feedback > PvP Gameplay" box (which is where this post is). You aren't allowed to use your voice as 1 vote as a historically paying customer (for whatever that is worth). Don't ever ask Cryptic to change anything. Never mind the fact that your pvp build worked just fine before, and then Cryptic changed something, and now you have to do a massive amount of work to pivot your entire account around to adapt to what Cryptic just changed with the new Delta Rising T6 fed ships to be competitive in pvp again. YOU need to change to adapt to what Cryptic does."
Do you know why you keep seeing posts on the same problems over and over? It's because people keep complaining about the same problems, and those problems keep NOT getting fixed. The fact that you see 700 posts all complaining about the same things over and over means those are the problems Cryptic needs to adjust to be the way the players want. Not the other way around.
Rather than asking, "Why don't multiple different people stop complaining about the same things over and over?" Why not ask, "Why doesn't Crytpic fix it?" Whatever the answer to that is, you probably shouldn't accept it. Instead, you should keep asking Cryptic to fix it until they do.
The players don't need to adjust to the way Cryptic thinks they should play. The players can just walk away. If you want proof of that, look at the fact that pvp is practically dead; it is because pvp is not the way people want it to be in order for it to be fun for most people. If Cryptic wants more money, more players, and for those players to stay in the game longer, they should probably fix these years-old complaints that are still being complained about.
Every single time you see someone complain about the same problem again, and again, just take it as ANOTHER reminder that it isn't how the players want it to be yet, and the more times you have seen that complaint, the more "votes" you could consider it to have behind it to change that problem.
The squeaky wheel gets the oil. If enough people complain about something often enough, it gets put higher on the priorities list to be changed.
It should not be assumed that I haven't searched for solutions to this. Don't tell me (and everyone else too) to just sit down and be quiet and give them my money, and keep playing forever without ever using my voice to cast a vote even if there are already 700 others just like it. More votes that all say the same thing makes our point stronger, not weaker.
Virus Dancer thinks that people need "to learn to freakin' search." In general, that is probably true. Now I don't know if that is directed toward me, but since it is in my thread with regard to my statement, and he said, "But everything they said has already been answered countless times...Hell, was answered before there even were Roms with Feds moaning about the KDF...meh. Guess I'm just tired of folks not even trying to search for stuff." I am assuming it is directed towards me.
I would like to point out that big list of stuff that virus dancer posted after assuming I was too ignorant to know what to do and never searched... was actually listed by me in my first post before he ever criticized me for not knowing it, which proves that I did know it even though virus dancer assumed that I did not know it, and on top of that he decided to criticize my post as being guilty of something that is is not guilty of without even reading the whole thing. Maybe he should read a whole post before criticizing it, and if he can't be bothered to read the whole thing because it is too long for him to want to deal with, then maybe he shouldn't criticize it.
Rather, I listed the stuff to show that I did know what to do, then I went into a discussion about why that stuff isn't what I would consider to be good enough unless you are a science captain with sensor scan too.
To quote virus dancer...
Rom Deflector
Jem Deflector
TDF
Astrophysicist Trait
Intelligence Fleet
High Aux
Sci Vessel/Carrier have better SDR ratios
EPtA
Acetons, Mines
Super Bosted Grav Wells
Spying/Triangulating with Pets
Listening
I have a ship that uses all that except TDF, and Astrophysicist Trait because I am a Tac KDF Rom, so I don't have access to the Nebula, or that trait, but the rest of it, yes I use literally all of that. It isn't good enough. It gets me about 7.5km of detection range (depending on the opponent's stealth score), which is really not good enough to hunt for cloaked ships in a big open field like ker'rat. I would say it is borderline at best.
You pretty much need sensor scan. Then you can get more like 18km of detection range. Tacs can't use sensor scan. Hmm. Maybe Sci will be the new top class for a while now in pvp until Cryptic changes, yet, something else. What an odd turn of events.
Even sensor scan isn't an ideal solution though. Are you people suggesting that you honestly think it is a game improvement to go into ker'rat and have everyone be invisible nearly the all time, and just play man-hunt? It is just silly.
Know the difference
It could save your life...
Seriously though, why do you care? The Devs do not, so you should not. Move on.
Yeah, could have 19 other folks in Ker'rat and never see a single one...with none of them having cloaks. It's just the way the map is...lots of times hoping that somebody's left enough breadcrumbs along to way to find out just where everybody is at the top of the map or at a top side or way behind one of the spawns. Folks rarely tend to go down to the bottom of the map, but yeah - it's a big zone.
Also, if I'm not mistaken with Romulans the higher the Singularity Charge the less Stealth they have, so if they're kill-hungry I've not had a problem blowing them up.
Press "O." Then click on the search tab while in Ker'rat.
Indeed, you are right though. Sometimes there is just no one there. I know when those times are though because I can check it. Even when there are people, it is super hard to find them, and it isn't because they are in the corner of the zone. If you want to find them, just decloak and fly around for about 2 minutes, or start fighting a borg ship. They will come to you.
I find it aggravating that on a forum, if your post is much longer than 3 paragraphs, people won't read it, but they will still comment on it. If it is shorter than 3 paragraphs, sometimes there are concepts that take longer than that to explain the whole thing to include all the details. If your post is incomplete, people will berate you for your oversimplification and incompleteness of the topic. This means, as a general rule, that complicated things cannot be discussed on the internet. Fascinating.
This is yet another example of how DR frakked over PvP, and IMO, for multiple reasons:
- The T6 ship category is saturated with cloaking ships. Of the 6 FED, 2 KDF, and 2 ROM T6 ships currently available in the C-Store, only 3 of them don't have cloak. So no wonder he can't find people on the map. Just looking at the ships, 70% of the T6 ships have cloak.
- I'm not going to ***** on the Romulans, because I think they're something the Devs did right, back when LoR was released. But to make the perfect Rommie vaper with EBC and intel? That's overkill. Rommies don't even need to decloak to vape if they use the Faeht. A Neut+TS3 from cloak can kill enemies in one shot.
- I've said this before, but Intel powers have been poorly implemented. Either too effective or zero uses. Such extremes only prompt players to only use the super-effective powers, which happen to be powers that promote complete, tray-wide disables or insane critting.
- SDR needs to be adjusted so players who invest the skill points and console space and/or deflector can have a moderate SDR, instead of being dependent on career (Sensor Scan).
- We're now playing catch-up. Those of us who have reached 60 already are now struggling to gain spec points and move up in that area, as well as grind dil, and upgrading equipment, so on and so forth. Add in the fact that DR is basically anti-alts, and there goes the playerbase. The people who excelled in non-cloaked-vaper roles have probably joined the vapers or left, because the game no longer supports their approach to PvP. I know myself, all but one of my characters are not vapers, they are CC or BFAW pressure damagers or teamhealers. And I'm only playing the latter because of the upcoming tournament, otherwise I wouldn't be playing any of them at all. Why? Because DR, the world of cloaked vapers, has made them obsolete.
EDIT: So basically, when people complained about the trinity and how they wanted that removed, instead of getting a "color spectrum" of builds, Cryptic has now moved toward only one or two types of roles. It's a monochrome game now.
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Nobody said they weren't there. It's funny that you go on to complain about people not reading what you've said, when you've obviously failed to read what anybody said, including my initial complaint that everything you said had been answered if only you'd searched and read.
Sorry to say, but 99% (if not 100%) of your audience are forum posting players. 90% of whom will criticize you because they always know better.
Basically Cryptic/PWE community management is TRIBBLE, and if you have a problem with the game, you are to give it the finger and move off to a better game.
I play a tactical romulan KDF character. I need more ability to see cloaked ships. Currently I use ALL my sci slots with sensors. I use the Jem hadar or Romulan deflector. I use maxed sensors skill. I use Emergency Power to Auxiliary. 125 AUX power. Intelligence Specialization ability: Perception Bending.
It's not good enough. I need more. I only have maybe 7km of stealth detection range. Some people will say that is pretty good for a Tac character with no "sensor scan" ability, but not good enough to actually let me pvp without hours of man-hunt apparently.
Cryptic, can you make it so we KDF players can get a hold of the universal consoles from the Nebula:
Tachyon Detection Grid, and
Tachyon Detection Field please?
I'll be happy to pay you full price for them of course.
After all, it only seems fair to give KDF side stuff from Fed side after giving Fed side everything they wanted from KDF side: Plasmonic leech, aceton assimilators, cloaking devices, etc...
Well now we need an answer to deal with cloaking on KDF side.
Oh, take your lumps. Now you know how it feels.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1341401
makes a change for a KDF player asking for something from the FED players though :P
If it weren't a case that it has been asked for since LoR hit Tribble back in early 2013. :P
Actually, Virusdancer, yes, someone did suggest that maybe there wasn't anyone there once again proving that I was reading, and that I am being accused of not reading by you when, in fact, yet again, it is you who was not.
I am sad that you have become so jaded Virusdancer. You used to be one of the best posters. Come on back man. The internet is ruining you. You had a REALLY high resistance to the internet hate machine; higher than I think I ever could have. After enough years, and posts of trying to help people though, it appears to be making you an angrier person. It is taking its toll. It also appears that you have read so many posts you are mentally pigeon holing them, and responding before you even finish reading, making the presumption that you already know everything the person is going to say before they even finish saying it, but if you are going to do that, then why are you even still participating? Perhaps because you have been doing it so long, it has become something that you simply do because you do? I actually have a lot of respect for what you have done on the forums here.
I know you said you don't think I read what people have said in the past or do searches, but thinking back on all the posts by you from years past, I am sad to see your posts becoming more bitter.
Lor was 2013 my god time flys,
(bit side/off topic but) I dont understand cryptic's ideas about the factions, like there are two distinct paths they could have chose but stumble across both;
keep the factions unique i.e. ship classes/consoles/cloak ability etc, or give both sides the same e.g. t6 fed cloaks, carriers, battle cruisers and lockbox swap consoles,
There is a distinct disadvantage to KDF players in the stealth detection game, (im sure the experience players have workarounds but still), but I dont know if thats in the grande scheme of faction "balance," the idea that cryptic hates the kdf, or just a 'it hasn't happened yet give it time til the next lockbox'
all in all...
Give the kdf the damn consoles! XD
Give feds a damn battle cloaking ship!
Give the romulans a distinctive carrier!
imagine how many forum posts would be culled demanding/begging for these :P
(semi serious, semi not serious, again, I dont understand cryptic's reasoning anymore!)
edit:
Oh the thread got merged.. now I look like I'm way off topic.. splendid!
...I'm salty.