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Every day I see posts on here that complain about various issues with running Star Trek Online. People will explain what happens and describe their systems. More often than not they will be using laptops that are not high-end gaming laptops or PCs that are a few years old. They may also be using the on-board graphics adapters that some integrated motherboards come with.
If you're using these older machines to run a highly graphics intensive and processor intensive game do you seriously expect everything to go smoothly? If you're using a Windows pc, find out your Windows Experience Index number - it should be higher than 6 if you want smooth performance. The Windows Experience Index will also show you where the bottlenecks in your system are so you can upgrade what needs to be upgraded.
Your older systems are not going to cut it forever folks. Sorry about that but eventually you'll need to upgrade.
If you're using these older machines to run a highly graphics intensive and processor intensive game do you seriously expect everything to go smoothly? If you're using a Windows pc, find out your Windows Experience Index number - it should be higher than 6 if you want smooth performance. The Windows Experience Index will also show you where the bottlenecks in your system are so you can upgrade what needs to be upgraded.
Your older systems are not going to cut it forever folks. Sorry about that but eventually you'll need to upgrade.
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On the other hand, if you're running Win 8 or later, your system almost certainly is sophisticated enough to support this game - I run it at fairly high settings on a Dell XPS laptop, not exactly a high-end gaming rig.
The gripping hand, of course, is your Internet connection. If you're running DSL or (Turing forbid!) a dial-up connection, your performance is likely to be suboptimal no matter what your hardware is like. And if you're not in North America, there are even more variables, as Cryptic only owns the one server farm...
Just know that if you run a Radeon 5000 series or higher, an Nvidia 400 series or higher, and a CPU from the Intel i5 series or better, or an AMD Phenom or better, then you are more than fine to run STO. It's system requirements are low and a high end rig see's little performance gain over a Surface Pro 3
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The problem with game performance is really some serious flaws with the client, the first is the UI is a mess and puts a massive drain on performance. The second comes from an effects limitation in the client itself, it has a pretty low limit for the amount of effects it can display at once, and when that gets exceeded, the client can't handle it well.
There are a lot of people out there will really terrible old budget pcs that should never run games, but there are way too many problems with the game on high end pcs to put the blame on them too. When devs make missions like fleet defense, and its completely unplayable by everyone when all the ships are blasting effects, there is a serious issue.
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build this computer myself and also no other onlinegame is lagging
only sto makes me see rubberbanding
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While I agree the WEI is not a good indicator as to whether or not this would run, I strongly, strongly disagree with Win 8 = STO ready.
Windows 8 is pre-loaded on many, many retail machines. Including laptops that wouldn't even get STO to start, like AMD E350s and the like. I'd wager there are plenty of Win8 machines in the "budget" variety that won't run this game, while mid to high-end machines from 5 years ago will do just fine.
Personally, I find old parts of the game pretty lightweight. I could run very high settings on Core2 with a GTX 9800+ until S8. The Dyson zone changed that, then the Undine battlezone changed that even more. DR even more so. I moved my graphics card up to a GTX 580 (which even there, is pretty old), and now have no graphics-related lag at all - BUT, it sure runs hot in the Delta Quadrant (60ish everywhere else, DR patrols around 80 degrees).
Laptops can run the game - but they have to be pretty good ones (your XPS is Dell's "consumer performance lineup"). I'd wager it either wouldn't run on an entry level Inspiron, or if it did, would be terrible. It doesn't run on my HP 2000, but does run fine on my EliteBook with low-mid graphics.
Overall it depends on the system specs and it will vary from person to person.
For example, I have a nearly 7 year old "back up" PC that is still quite capable of running STO without any problems. The most important specs of that PC are as follows:
- Intel Core2Quad Q9450 (almost 7 years old)
- 8GB RAM
- Radeon HD 5850 (about 5.5 years old)
To be fair, the HP 2000 laptop came with a garbage AMD E-300 APU which were considered very weak APUs even when they were new. The processing power of the E-300 was basically abysmal and Radeon HD 6310 is less powerful than the Sandy Bridge generation Intel HD 2000 graphics core which was not very powerful either.
The Elitebook will generally have a Core i5 or Core i7 CPU with processing power that simply crushes what the AMD E-300 is capable of.
Exactly - as I'm well aware, but plenty of garbage entry-level laptops exist with Windows 8, which is my point. At least a year ago, they were still pushing E350s in some stores, which were almost as bad as the E300. The 350 dollar laptop range just won't run this game well in my experience.
Also, any laptop with Intel HD graphics will probably RUN STO, but it's going to look...not great.
STO needs an OKish CPU, and a fairly decent graphics card to run well. RAM doesn't seem to matter much, it was running fine on 4GB (especially if closing Arc after launching the game) before I upgraded my Core2 q8800 to an i7. I think the game client is still 32 bit. OS is not the deciding factor - plenty of newer OS machines don't make the cut, plenty of older ones would.
One thing that's sure - in the last year, system requirements have gone up. Recommended on the official page is still a GT 8800 or something (recommended, not minimum), but content released after S8 needs more horsepower than that or it'll be choppy (not rubberbanding, but low-FPS).
I can play STO on my laptop using only the Intel HD 4400 instead of the dedicated Radeon HD 8850m at 1600x900 resolution using a mix of low and medium graphic settings. Performance may not be acceptable for everyone, but considering difference in performance between the Intel HD 4400 and the Radeon HD 8850m (equivalent to the nVidia GT 845m) I find that STO is quite playable and still look good.
Of course my desktop PC would below my laptop out of the water when it comes to graphics quality and performance.
For example, one person said any PC that runs Windows 8 can run the game. As was later pointed out, this simply isn't the case (though it's probably right most of the time.) There are so many variations in computer configurations that it's really hard to just say that 'Computer A' can always run the game or 'Computer B' cannot.
If you want a quick and easy way to find out your systems limitations, I recommending visiting Can I Run It?
This is a simple web utility that will analyze your computer and let you know where you're falling short. Just type in the name of the game and let it run. You can either run the utility right in your browser if you have Java installed, or you can download the utility to your desktop and run it from there.
The tool will tell you if you meet the Minimum as well as the Recommended requirements for the game in question. If you meet the 'Minimum' you can run it, but it might have performance issues. If you meet the 'Recommended' specs then you should be able to run the game without issues.
I even started a tread about it not so long ago, but im starting to get better performance since the last patch, not great at intel speed, but better
60-80 degrees? You need more efficient cooling or, need set your fan speed controls manually.
If I had to guess, you are either overclocking the card or, it comes factory overclocked which seems to produce excessive heat normally on NVidia gpu's that I have seen factory overclocked from the get go.
Seeing how they haven't bothered to update the requirements, to run this game according to Cryptic themselves, than even a computer running an index score of 3.5-4 should be sufficient at low settings.
Also, if only high end gear should be used, than why have low-super high gfx settings in the first place?
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Not really. 60 to 80 is within the expected temps for air cooled 580s. The previous gen 480s are rated to take up to 100c, for good reason - those things heat up enough to cook a steak when running at high load. The 500 series is more efficient, but not much.
As to the OP.... my PC can, or should be able to handle STO. Fact is, since the last NVIDIA update (or the last patch, they both happened at the same time for me) I finally get the performance I expected from my 980s, but it still drops to a slideshow with certain GUI windows open.
My old vanity rig with an FX60 and SLI 6600 Ultra still runs the old stuff fine, and two 9600 GTs can run the new stuff when overlooked (not well, but playable). Its not just the age or capabilities, some CPU/GPU combos just don't work well. My older GTX460 rig with an AMD FX8350 actually runs worse in some areas than my 9600 with a Phenom2 quad rig. Why? I don't know.
STO is just.... odd.
i think my score is high enough..
altho, i still get flashing textures all over the place and these huge black squares.. makes the game unplayable
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