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The Elachi dread trait is apparently 'whenever you activate HYT it adds a HYT1 that applies on the next attack after your HYT fires/30 seconds.
While HYT isn't astounding, it does seem pretty interesting. Just wish it applied to spread too.
While HYT isn't astounding, it does seem pretty interesting. Just wish it applied to spread too.
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its an interesting ship, a LTC intel hybrid seat is unique, and should have been on the intrepid too.
no indication whether detaching the lower section effects your turn rate like saucer sep does, but if it doesn't, the 5/3 weapons setup is pretty pointless with a base 6 turn.
with the right build, including OSS3, should be able to out DPS the scimitar, just like most of the rest of the intel ships can
Isn't the superior version putting itself on cooldown?
From what i read:
Use HY X
Queue up HY X and HY 1
HY X goes into 30 global cooldown, as does the skill
Both are launched at the same time (hopefully)
OR One is launched, then the other with a 1 sec delay (global torp cooldown)
if i got AtB cooling down HY3, it sounds more then possible that you will find your HY3 uptime reduced because of a HY1 that triggers.
torps and HY torps aren't spam weapons anyway, i don't see how throwing an extra HY1 at someones shields is at all helpful.
at hull, at hull!
b) torps were never spam weapons.
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Well, that's why it's better with a vape build. One with the bio and the neutronic torp up front and maybe a DBB for overload, or maybe just the version with all that exotic damage TRIBBLE.
This is my thinking too. It's going to be rare to see, however. This ship will be too expensive for most people and probably most often will sit in epeen collections rather than be used.
After achieving level 5 in your Elachi Sheshar Dreadnought Cruisers Starship Mastery, you will unlock the Torpedo Barrage starship trait. While equipped, your Torpedo: High Yield bridge officer abilities will cause you to queue up a bonus Torpedo: High Yield I. This can occur once every 30 seconds.
Think much of the discussion in the thread so far is based around whether or not the 5s rule will apply or not...
Beyond that though, would folks trade a HY1 for a possible TS3 or a Viral?
It's kind of a mind-boggling trait...one of those...uh...why?
Though about a healing platform, but those 4 tac consoles get in the mid of it, can load only three shield emitters. It has 5/3 layout, but a LOL turn rate of 6 making it pointless. Intel seating, well, who cares it's not like you're doing something with the ship.
And trait sucks.
So... http://imgur.com/ndBdRW2
It's mind-boggling, actually, how many of you can't even imagine flying a ship with HY and instead praise (neutronic) TS3 spam.
I find that trait great if it functions the way I think it does. In between 2 HY.
It's not straight-up bullsh*t like viral or reciprocity, or lets say additional TS3 instead of HY1. I guess then it would be a good trait, right?
Oh wait, then you lot would cry how it's another OP trait. LOL
If neutronic wouldn't function like it does that it kills player when player has shield facing in yellow/red/0, 99.9% people wouldn't use neutronic spread or torpedoes at all. I can guarantee that.
Before neutronic, only people I saw using torps were cloaked torp'varo spread spammers.
I myself wasn't killed by heavy single HY in PvP since forever(maybe never), which doesn't mean that I didn't do it to others and to myself lol.
That's why drunk as well said why additional HY on shields.
Why not on hull? that is the point of HY to drop shields and then hit it with a torp.
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Unbunch your panties, son...
So it's great "if" it works a certain way? Isn't that special...
So you start that paragraph off with a flood of tears and then complain others might cry?
Unbunch those panties, son...
Instead of crying...why don't you...oh...adapt?
Nom nom nom nom...
No wonder you've got issues....
it has LTC intel/sci and 5 fore weapons, which means OSS3 or even OSS2+SS1, tac LT+LTC with cmdr+ens ENG. If you can't see damage potential there, then i don't know what to say. People fly cruisers with way less potential since always.
You can also set it up in full tank/heal mode with dual LTC SCI + cmdr+ens ENG, with Tac LT as , let's say TT+APD buff dealer.
Still needs clarification on turn when separated.
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where did you see tears there? I have tried neutronic, it kills when it's not supposed to, it kills people that i'm not even aiming at as a colateral bonus. It kills on yellow shields which any other torp won't do.
That's why i took it off when I came back. It is noob broken weapon.
and BTW rest of it is just a pointless post. you can do much better.
P.S. before talking down to people you need to grow up a lil more, "son".
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You complained - mentioned something in a negative fashion. Whenever you talk about somebody else doing that, they're crying. So why wouldn't it be the same when you do it?
Or are you just that full of yourself...?
Is it a broken weapon? Of course I think it is, cause you know - I'm the one that's been out there leading the charge on trying to get Cryptic to fix it...much to the chagrin of folks that hate when I point out things like that.
Would I call it a noob broken weapon? Call those using it noobs? Nah, only somebody so full of themselves like you would do that...
Perhaps I should have dumbed down what I said so you could have fully appreciated it...
Not only did I have to sit down first to talk down to you, I had to lean down and yell to reach you...
You can't be so delusional to say that I am full of myself after a post like that? Right?
And yes, after trying it in several games i can call neutronic as it is now noob weapon because my trust in player base enjoying PvP without broken stuff is way greater then in Cryptic actually fixing broken stuff.
In any way, live long and prosper.
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@rudiefix KDFs: Lill / Xifeidur / Dehr / Ugly
@rudiefix Roms (KDF alligned): Chicita
Meh, it's like many ships - they're not all going to be necessarily equal to the given task at hand. It may be a case of a player's style of play where it doesn't quite work out for them. Not everything is going to be an upgrade for everybody sort of thing.
It's kind of funny looking at the ship though, and some of the funny potential kills one might be able to pull off with it if they survived long enough to do it. Cause if you use that LCdr Intel/Sci just for Intel - you could work some OSS1, IT1, SS1 in - break out a Subspace Jump to land behind them after they're stuck in the Ionic, not have to worry about Accuracy as much - perhaps even have built some Accuracy up through traits and the rest, so that you just unload into their aft with some Space Flanking Crit galore against that debuffed target. Depending on how the actual trait works, could even work in some HY2/HY1 into that mix. Work in an Isokinetic Cannon too, eh?
If one wanted to run some broken stuff, they could work in the EAP for additional debuffs - maybe slot the Corrosive Torp/Mine aft to work in some 5s CD reduction off EPtS and ST, eh? Work that in with the Reciprocity reduction for 2x Tac and 3x Intel abilities.
But it would be a case of surviving and being able to get into position for that, eh?
Then again, from a PVE bouncing around having fun angle - it could be a trip to slot the various Elachi consoles - 3pc them and all.
Cause you'd have your two hangars, you'd have the Control and Support craft from the Monbosh console, the Assault Craft from the Sheshar console, and the Assault Craft would have the Crescent Wave Cannon from the S'golth console. Heh, run a Varanus Platform - do it with a Sci to drop out Photonic Fleet and don't forget the Nimbus Call...
...name the ship Traffic Jam. :P
That would be a trip (once or twice) to do at the start of a queue.
But no, it's not a nimble little Tac orientated ship for the ongoing side-meta of being zippity or dying...would take some work, some theory crafting, and likely support. And then, would it just be a niche thing?
Somebody out there might have a blast with it and do all sorts of crazy things...just because some folks might reach for the Excedrin for the /facepalm after looking at it won't change that. And quite simply, in the end, it goes back to that not everything is necessarily going to be an upgrade for everybody...not everybody's looking for the same thing...yadda, yadda, yadda.
I just hope they answer on the 5s thing with the HY and whether that's ignored or not - as well as the half dozen or so other questions that arise from that trait.
Does the Fleet Corsair go 2 Tac - 5 Eng - 4 Sci with the T5U upgrade?
But yeah, with it picking up the 13th BOFF ability - you could add in the Intel Team to what you were already running there.
see http://gateway.startrekonline.com/#char(Lill@rudiefix)/ship-equipment
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Ah, so just giving up the 1 Sci for the Tac...while picking up that 13th BOFF ability, (edit), but hrmmm - trading the Shield Modulation for the Weapon aura...hrmmm. Then again, with all the bleed that Attract Fire might work better anyway, eh?
Gives up a bit of impulse mod there with the turn, as far as being able to keep with your folks - better folks would be able to keep with you though, eh? Not run to the four corners of the map to chase butterflies, lol...
Hrmm, that's actually got me thinking - cause I'd been looking for something like that. Thanks for bringing that up.
edit: Not a second hangar, was thinking of the pet consoles.
I have the feeling that this is one of the "subtle" balancing mechanics - HYT is practically underpowered compared to TS these days (or so is my impression), and so they invent either DOFFs or Traits that boost subpar powers.
Drunk mentioned the ship splits so it will probably get a turn boost. Also, and more importantly, it gets access to OSS3 + DEM3 with 5 forward weapons. :eek:
It may not be the best for pvp but those 125k ISA records will soon be broken.