First? This is the internet. People can say (more or less) whatever they want, and there tends to be a lack of foresight when people are angry. I wouldn't go crucifying this player just yet, since I'm certain there have been times where you've blown your stack.
Second? That nerd-raging pilot was an idiot. The best way to resolve that situation is to start using Thalaron Pulse on EVERYTHING. Spheres? Cubes? Respawning players? Everybody.
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Which is sad really - kinda suggests that they don't want to play Elite as they're nothing special there, so they hang around Advanced instead, telling everyone else how they think they should play/what ship they shoudl use etc etc.
some (most?) of the stfs do not *have* an elite mode.... (yet?)
also, failing optionals is a big deal again because if you fail them in normal, you will fail them in advanced. If you fail them in advanced, you flat out fail the entire run (no longer optional, I suppose...). It is important to tell people how to not fail even in normal so they can learn it. Its not useful to freak out over it.
I agree, but telling people how to play isn't the same thing as telling them that they shouldn't have brought a particular class of ship into an Elite STF, as per the instance I posted about earlier, where I was told that I shouldn't have brought a T5-U Nova class into an ADVANCED STF.
Right, that is just stupidity-- and you can't fix stupid. Almost every t5 ship is capable of advanced stf runs if geared out. A couple of the oldest t5s are a little on the weak side, but even those can do it with better than average builds.
I tend to avoid STFs for precisely this reason. My favorite run was one that happened when some of us Literary Challenge habitues met up on Risa during the last summer event, and decided to run a normal STF for the heck of it. I think I made a pretty good showing with my Risian Cruiser, and now that it's up to T5U I'd probably do even better - but I really don't want to have to put up with somebody's hissy-fit because I'm not flying a "real warship" (four weapons forward, four aft, a good number of console slots, nice armor, and I've got a couple of high-level RCS consoles in there for maneuverability - don't assume that she's useless just because she looks like the Love Boat with wings and rockets).
Elitists in the Normal queues might as well be the new Griefers lately. I've had a couple recent runs that had me absolutely steamed with the verbal diarrhea. The n00bs are getting targeted like it's a sport. I've said before that I go to bat for the n00bs when this TRIBBLE starts, and I still do. I feel obligated to try to help them learn the ropes and defend them when needed from buttholes with big egos. I am seeing more and more players take my stance and put their foot down against Elitist abuse, so that is a positive & more than was being done before. I think it's a sign that while the abuse is getting bolder & more frequent, the general community has about had it with these "people".
The abusive attitudes are creeping into borderline stroke territory with a tiny minority of players, definitely. In one almost amusing run through The Breach, our game plan was to split up -- 3 down the top, one down each side hitting hard points. No problem, sounds good. Except one must have missed that chatbox entirely, and spent the entire time ripping me & the other taking the sides a new one, accusing us of being AFK & threatening to report us. The 4 of us were all "Dude, no one's AFK, we already discussed this plan of attack, effing chill..."
He kept it up the entire run, it was ridiculous, just asinine. More insults, AFK accusations, ripping on the ships, he just didn't know when to quit. Karma is a funny thing, though. He kept blowing up, & was the only one who didn't make it out of the core, rotfl. Insult my Atrox while your Guardian goes boom why don'tcha XD
Well, i'm not new to net nerd-rage (Being of veteran of several other morpgs) and I can understand it if someone enters elite or even advanced and does something stupid which costs the whole team (especially now with the optional/mandatory garbage), but what got me was that this was NORMAL ...
makes me want a thaleron pulse for my fed cruiser :P
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Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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It's funny, the elitest of elitists's are heading to normal as they can't cope in advanced. These are the fake Elite, the big ego's, the one's who couldn't lose unless it's anyone but their fault. They know how to build and fly the 100K ships, yet no-one has ever seen or heard of these people before. They tell people they know people who have more skill in their pinky than the rest of the group who lost it for them, when in fact they are their own worst enemy, the n00b in elite clothing, the ego with no support.
Enjoy their crys of pain as they decry all those who pained them, as for them there is no more enjoyment left except to berate others who they perceive have failed them.
Chris Robert's on SC:
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
A typical example of "you can think it, but shouldnt write it". Especially on normal. Elite and maybe advanced might justify it, IF the thalaron-player really sucked up till that point and thalaron is just the icing. Then again, you can do very well with 3pc equipped, though 99% of the time that isnt true in reality.
Elitists in the Normal queues might as well be the new Griefers lately. I've had a couple recent runs that had me absolutely steamed with the verbal diarrhea. The n00bs are getting targeted like it's a sport. I've said before that I go to bat for the n00bs when this TRIBBLE starts, and I still do. I feel obligated to try to help them learn the ropes and defend them when needed from buttholes with big egos. I am seeing more and more players take my stance and put their foot down against Elitist abuse, so that is a positive & more than was being done before. I think it's a sign that while the abuse is getting bolder & more frequent, the general community has about had it with these "people".
The abusive attitudes are creeping into borderline stroke territory with a tiny minority of players, definitely. In one almost amusing run through The Breach, our game plan was to split up -- 3 down the top, one down each side hitting hard points. No problem, sounds good. Except one must have missed that chatbox entirely, and spent the entire time ripping me & the other taking the sides a new one, accusing us of being AFK & threatening to report us. The 4 of us were all "Dude, no one's AFK, we already discussed this plan of attack, effing chill..."
He kept it up the entire run, it was ridiculous, just asinine. More insults, AFK accusations, ripping on the ships, he just didn't know when to quit. Karma is a funny thing, though. He kept blowing up, & was the only one who didn't make it out of the core, rotfl. Insult my Atrox while your Guardian goes boom why don'tcha XD
they have done a study on "trolls" the ones that intentionally just say stuff to upset people and do things to ruin others day they find it "fun" just remember true trolls fall under this study and are rampant in online gaming (ignore is the best way to deal with them)
i really doubt that somebody doing NORMAL queus can be called "elitist". Calling out somebody in such a dickish way is unquestionably dumb, but the content of the message was true...3 piece console set on a scimi is underperforming.
The thing is, if nobody ever told you that your build sucks, you will probably never come to that conclusion by yourself. Not really a good way to find out that your build is TRIBBLE, but atleast it is some feedback. Hopefully he will put some more thought (and read up some guids) into his setup after this experiance.
To leave an ongoing STF because somebody made such a statement is also rather stupid.
I was in a very nice, personable fleet before I took some time off to get used to a job. When I returned that same fleet had turned into an elitist-jerk paradise. 90% of the admirals are short-tempered and nasty at the drop of a hat. To make it worse these same people are PvP. This means that the only way to exist is to do precisely what they say, when someone is stupid enough to ask for advice that is. No learning on your own, no experimentation, just ill-tempered build cloning.
While at least some of this has to do with the PvP mindset, the new game mechanics are to blame for most of it. When it was possible to kit a ship out with drops, fleet marks and the exchange people seemed less hair-trigger nasty. Now, with the better builds costing hard money and/or serious EC's it's all about ego. And you know what fat ego's love... acting out on the little people.
I was in a very nice, personable fleet before I took some time off to get used to a job. When I returned that same fleet had turned into an elitist-jerk paradise. 90% of the admirals are short-tempered and nasty at the drop of a hat. To make it worse these same people are PvP. This means that the only way to exist is to do precisely what they say, when someone is stupid enough to ask for advice that is. No learning on your own, no experimentation, just ill-tempered build cloning.
While at least some of this has to do with the PvP mindset, the new game mechanics are to blame for most of it. When it was possible to kit a ship out with drops, fleet marks and the exchange people seemed less hair-trigger nasty. Now, with the better builds costing hard money and/or serious EC's it's all about ego. And you know what fat ego's love... acting out on the little people.
when, exactly, could one use dropped gear to excel at pvp? The top pvp folks have long spent big bucks on lobi consoles, ships (some just get a console), and pricy gear. This has not changed in some years. And the stuff that works is different but build cloning has been a problem for years as well. And pvp elitists havent changed much either ... same old same old there, the loud ones are unpleasant and the quiet ones are quiet.
The definition of "elitist" in this thread appears to be "*******s who think they know what they're doing, but don't".
Why would an actual "elite" care about the rest of the team in a Normal queue? I queued for ISN the other day in a 40k Scimitar and pretty much solo'd the whole thing.
With this new Que system it has now introduced grievers to the game, a griever is one who likes to make you fail just for the fun of it. I am not saying this is what happened in the account above for accidents do happen during battle but when you fail Undine Infiltration Elite because someone answers the question wrong something sad is going on in the game! By the time you play elite on this one you should know the answers easily by now and there is no excuse for this to occur. With a failure the other four players are now hit with a time out penalty which is not fair to them. My wifie and I are casual players and sometimes only have an hour to play. Our failure rate is way to high for us to continue to enjoy the game. Take for example the Saturday we had an hour to play, first we did Bug Hunt Elite which after a wipe out of the group one person either quit or went link dead. We still had one more alarm bug to cope with when it went behind the rocks and could not be shot at, failure and a time out. By now we could do our Doff's (the doff system is too slow now) and our R&D. Next came our Undine Infiltration Elite (I'm so glad you dont get an instant failure because people wont put their weapons to stun...oops gave the Devs a bad idea there). We say to the team if you dont know the answers let us do it, a person ran right over and boom we fail, time out again. If we had not had the penalty we could have done this again but we are both so aggravated by this time we just call it quits for the day. My advice penalize the person who causes the mission failure not the ones who really want to play! Please fix these horrible playing conditions before you have to close this game for lack of players! I really believe this situation is fixable and this would help.
What you did there, was a stand-up against a bully.
Good work, this sort of thing needs to be fought before it becomes a trend, and more people would suffer.
The thing is, if nobody ever told you that your build sucks, you will probably never come to that conclusion by yourself. Not really a good way to find out that your build is TRIBBLE, but atleast it is some feedback. Hopefully he will put some more thought (and read up some guids) into his setup after this experiance.
To leave an ongoing STF because somebody made such a statement is also rather stupid.
9 out of 10 chance it won't make the guy look for help. Anyone can say anything sucks whether it does or doesn't. It's such a frequent thing in games that people don't bother looking. But in this game incoherent rage is considered positive feedback to the fullest extent. Just look at the lovely people in the forums.
But I will agree with you that leaving a match can do more harm than good, unfortunately. Everyone counts in a team. Unless one goes by "There's no I in team, but there sure is Me."
On topic though:
One day (pre-DR. 4 months ago) I was playing Khitomer Space Elite. Was like 2 scimitars, 2 cruisers and my heavy escort carrier. Everyone went the way they're supposed to, everyone was doing their thing. Things were fine, until 1 of the scimitar guys went bonkers. Scimitar #2 went to go solo a cube (guy was doing just fine) and he was doing his thing, solo on one side. Scimitar #1 went over to him and said "I'm not freaking doing probes because of you guys. You can go eff yourselves." I sat there staring at the screen in disbelief.
I could've just let the match fail, but I didn't. I decided to be nice, regardless of this guy raging the ENTIRE match, saying everyone's TRIBBLE, they suck, their DPS is donkey butt. (I'm not posting all his swearing.) In the end, I was taking on probes from both sides and helping kill cubes or transformers with my spare time. In the end, he posted his 40k results, raged on everyone, claimed he did everything and we were worthless and left.
What a nice guy. He must have a lot of (fake) friends.
Point though is: This isn't exclusive to just one difficulty, such as Normal. These people are doing it just to do it. Normal is such an easy target because you can rage and insult new players who don't expect it and easily get a rise out of them. And this is why I play with just my friends most of the time.
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I wonder if the OP had gotten the handle of the Thalaron-using Scimi pilot... It would be nice to have a conversation with him/her to discuss how rude some may be and to encourage them to keep trying...
In my opinion, and in the opinion of others, Normal queues are the places to mess up and to learn how to be successful in Advanced, and eventually, elite queues.
If I pug a Normal queue, I expect errors, and invite questions if others have any. I don't pug Advanced queues anymore, and only use STF channels to build teams (making them aware of my individual weaknesses for each build/toon and collaborating on how best to be successful). I do not use elite at all, for fear of the same feedback the Thalaron-Scimi received...
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"Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure science." - Edwin Hubble
The game is open to everyone. In normal queues especially, as long as someone is trying then whatever happens happens.
If someone thinks that they are the greatest captain ever then they need to go find some elite queues and leave the rest of us alone.
But for anyone to be surprised that there are idiots out there that will try to degrade others for any, or no particular, reason is somewhat surprising itself.
Anyone that had played any MMO for any amount of time should know that this sort of behavior happens.
Doesn't matter what's at stake.
Looting open world harvest/loot/quest nodes while you are fighting the enemy(ies) that were guarding it? Check.
Yelling at people for not being min-maxed while doing basic, simple content? Check.
Offering unsolicited advice on how to make a "good" build, even after being told that they are not interested in said advice? Check.
Everyone can find things to add to this list, and I am by no means done with things that I could put on it. It's just how it is here in online gaming.
Does it make it okay? No, of course not, but some people's tolerance level is going to be higher than others.
That person that tells the other guy that they would be "better" if they stopped using something and replaced it with something else might find that the other person is interested.
Now telling someone that they are an idiot for using something is a far cry from telling someone that trading it out for something else may produce better results, or that using some ability in some circumstance isn't a good idea for whatever reason.
Sometimes a person needs some legitimate intstruction or guidance. That may be the first time that they tried some queue and they may not be aware of whatever system is used to succeed.
But the real jerks just need to be put on ignore immediately. No conversation, no fueling the fire in any way.
Just ignore them and leave them to their own kind.
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I had tray issues until I used the build system.
I had DOFFs un-assigning themselves from space and ground duty and powers moving all over the tray or disappearing from it.
Now I occasionally get one ability that likes to move one slot over from where I had it, but all I have to do is to re-load the ship build and everything pops right back into place.
Some people have no lives, these are the ones that spend exorbitant amounts of time on pug team chats ******** at people in normal queues for not having the right build.
Don't forget, the people described by this comment also spend exorbitant amounts of money to be elite, which allows imperfect world and craptic to justify all the ridiculous cash sinks and double dipping because they can make the claim that people are paying them money. Of course when that claim gets made, it is conveniently worded to sound like the entire player base is doing this, not just the uber elite basement dwellers.
-Rule of Acquisition #113: Always have sex with the boss.
-I am one of the many victims from the hijacked Caspian Division.
I will not let the childish acts of a criminal ruin this game for me.
-The actions of Cryptic, on the other hand......
First, a general statement: One of the best things about STO is that anyone can play; one of the worst things about STO is that anyone can play.
I ran into a ranter a while back in a STF. I don't even think they were ranting at me, but what was getting to me was the fact that it was obvious that their performance was being impacted by the time hey were spending typing the #&#^^& they were "sharing." I finally had enough, and simply typed:
It wasn't quite as eloquent as I would have liked, but I think they got the point, 'cuz the mindless berating stopped.
Actually, yesterday I had a brief encounter that was odd/rude/puzzling. It wasn't a queue, even, but the Undine Space Battlezone. I had just arrived on the map, intent on getting my first Undine run of the day (and, most importaint, the Daily Bonus Marks Box), but there was only 2 sections hat were still red. As I made my way to the nearest, it turned blue, so on I went to the next. The first person there started messaging me as I pulled up "Go away, find another spot," that kinda thing. Now, I know the point scales depending on how many are playing it, but other than swapping instances, I had nowhere else to go, and neither, apparently, did the rest of the players who soon arrived. I don't know how many of them they messaged before they declaired in local chat: "IDIOTS!!!!!" I'm not sure what they were thinking would happen to the last capture point on the map, but even if it made it more difficult, why should anyone deny themselves the opportunity to gain more marks (or in my case, Daily Marks) just because someone apparently wants to solo the point? A side note: the fleet they were in, unless the abbreviation has changed meaning, I'd think that they might be a little more sensative to hateful language & name calling...
"Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
Don't forget, the people described by this comment also spend exorbitant amounts of money to be elite
That's blatantly wrong. The people described in that comment are 99% likely to be utterly clueless, not "elite".
Someone who is actually "elite" never rants in a Normal queue because the rest of the party are not needed. If you can solo the queue, why would you care about the rest of the party? You don't. You wouldn't even notice what they're doing.
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Second? That nerd-raging pilot was an idiot. The best way to resolve that situation is to start using Thalaron Pulse on EVERYTHING. Spheres? Cubes? Respawning players? Everybody.
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Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
some (most?) of the stfs do not *have* an elite mode.... (yet?)
also, failing optionals is a big deal again because if you fail them in normal, you will fail them in advanced. If you fail them in advanced, you flat out fail the entire run (no longer optional, I suppose...). It is important to tell people how to not fail even in normal so they can learn it. Its not useful to freak out over it.
Right, that is just stupidity-- and you can't fix stupid. Almost every t5 ship is capable of advanced stf runs if geared out. A couple of the oldest t5s are a little on the weak side, but even those can do it with better than average builds.
I tend to just ignore their stupidity. I have no time to waste on some basement dwelling ret@rd.
The abusive attitudes are creeping into borderline stroke territory with a tiny minority of players, definitely. In one almost amusing run through The Breach, our game plan was to split up -- 3 down the top, one down each side hitting hard points. No problem, sounds good. Except one must have missed that chatbox entirely, and spent the entire time ripping me & the other taking the sides a new one, accusing us of being AFK & threatening to report us. The 4 of us were all "Dude, no one's AFK, we already discussed this plan of attack, effing chill..."
He kept it up the entire run, it was ridiculous, just asinine. More insults, AFK accusations, ripping on the ships, he just didn't know when to quit. Karma is a funny thing, though. He kept blowing up, & was the only one who didn't make it out of the core, rotfl. Insult my Atrox while your Guardian goes boom why don'tcha XD
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Enjoy their crys of pain as they decry all those who pained them, as for them there is no more enjoyment left except to berate others who they perceive have failed them.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
they have done a study on "trolls" the ones that intentionally just say stuff to upset people and do things to ruin others day they find it "fun" just remember true trolls fall under this study and are rampant in online gaming (ignore is the best way to deal with them)
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
The thing is, if nobody ever told you that your build sucks, you will probably never come to that conclusion by yourself. Not really a good way to find out that your build is TRIBBLE, but atleast it is some feedback. Hopefully he will put some more thought (and read up some guids) into his setup after this experiance.
To leave an ongoing STF because somebody made such a statement is also rather stupid.
While at least some of this has to do with the PvP mindset, the new game mechanics are to blame for most of it. When it was possible to kit a ship out with drops, fleet marks and the exchange people seemed less hair-trigger nasty. Now, with the better builds costing hard money and/or serious EC's it's all about ego. And you know what fat ego's love... acting out on the little people.
then they'd have something to whine about lol
when, exactly, could one use dropped gear to excel at pvp? The top pvp folks have long spent big bucks on lobi consoles, ships (some just get a console), and pricy gear. This has not changed in some years. And the stuff that works is different but build cloning has been a problem for years as well. And pvp elitists havent changed much either ... same old same old there, the loud ones are unpleasant and the quiet ones are quiet.
sounds like you need a new fleet.
Well, aren't you a steaming pile of self-absorbed BS? (rhetorical question) Sounds like you need to develop a life.
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you said: When I returned that same fleet had turned into an elitist-jerk paradise.
I said: you need a new fleet.
I stand corrected: it sounds like you fit right in.
Why would an actual "elite" care about the rest of the team in a Normal queue? I queued for ISN the other day in a 40k Scimitar and pretty much solo'd the whole thing.
Good work, this sort of thing needs to be fought before it becomes a trend, and more people would suffer.
9 out of 10 chance it won't make the guy look for help. Anyone can say anything sucks whether it does or doesn't. It's such a frequent thing in games that people don't bother looking. But in this game incoherent rage is considered positive feedback to the fullest extent. Just look at the lovely people in the forums.
But I will agree with you that leaving a match can do more harm than good, unfortunately. Everyone counts in a team. Unless one goes by "There's no I in team, but there sure is Me."
On topic though:
One day (pre-DR. 4 months ago) I was playing Khitomer Space Elite. Was like 2 scimitars, 2 cruisers and my heavy escort carrier. Everyone went the way they're supposed to, everyone was doing their thing. Things were fine, until 1 of the scimitar guys went bonkers. Scimitar #2 went to go solo a cube (guy was doing just fine) and he was doing his thing, solo on one side. Scimitar #1 went over to him and said "I'm not freaking doing probes because of you guys. You can go eff yourselves." I sat there staring at the screen in disbelief.
I could've just let the match fail, but I didn't. I decided to be nice, regardless of this guy raging the ENTIRE match, saying everyone's TRIBBLE, they suck, their DPS is donkey butt. (I'm not posting all his swearing.) In the end, I was taking on probes from both sides and helping kill cubes or transformers with my spare time. In the end, he posted his 40k results, raged on everyone, claimed he did everything and we were worthless and left.
What a nice guy. He must have a lot of (fake) friends.
Point though is: This isn't exclusive to just one difficulty, such as Normal. These people are doing it just to do it. Normal is such an easy target because you can rage and insult new players who don't expect it and easily get a rise out of them. And this is why I play with just my friends most of the time.
In my opinion, and in the opinion of others, Normal queues are the places to mess up and to learn how to be successful in Advanced, and eventually, elite queues.
If I pug a Normal queue, I expect errors, and invite questions if others have any. I don't pug Advanced queues anymore, and only use STF channels to build teams (making them aware of my individual weaknesses for each build/toon and collaborating on how best to be successful). I do not use elite at all, for fear of the same feedback the Thalaron-Scimi received...
CM
If someone thinks that they are the greatest captain ever then they need to go find some elite queues and leave the rest of us alone.
But for anyone to be surprised that there are idiots out there that will try to degrade others for any, or no particular, reason is somewhat surprising itself.
Anyone that had played any MMO for any amount of time should know that this sort of behavior happens.
Doesn't matter what's at stake.
Looting open world harvest/loot/quest nodes while you are fighting the enemy(ies) that were guarding it? Check.
Yelling at people for not being min-maxed while doing basic, simple content? Check.
Offering unsolicited advice on how to make a "good" build, even after being told that they are not interested in said advice? Check.
Everyone can find things to add to this list, and I am by no means done with things that I could put on it. It's just how it is here in online gaming.
Does it make it okay? No, of course not, but some people's tolerance level is going to be higher than others.
That person that tells the other guy that they would be "better" if they stopped using something and replaced it with something else might find that the other person is interested.
Now telling someone that they are an idiot for using something is a far cry from telling someone that trading it out for something else may produce better results, or that using some ability in some circumstance isn't a good idea for whatever reason.
Sometimes a person needs some legitimate intstruction or guidance. That may be the first time that they tried some queue and they may not be aware of whatever system is used to succeed.
But the real jerks just need to be put on ignore immediately. No conversation, no fueling the fire in any way.
Just ignore them and leave them to their own kind.
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I had tray issues until I used the build system.
I had DOFFs un-assigning themselves from space and ground duty and powers moving all over the tray or disappearing from it.
Now I occasionally get one ability that likes to move one slot over from where I had it, but all I have to do is to re-load the ship build and everything pops right back into place.
Don't forget, the people described by this comment also spend exorbitant amounts of money to be elite, which allows imperfect world and craptic to justify all the ridiculous cash sinks and double dipping because they can make the claim that people are paying them money. Of course when that claim gets made, it is conveniently worded to sound like the entire player base is doing this, not just the uber elite basement dwellers.
-Rule of Acquisition #113: Always have sex with the boss.
-I am one of the many victims from the hijacked Caspian Division.
I will not let the childish acts of a criminal ruin this game for me.
-The actions of Cryptic, on the other hand......
I ran into a ranter a while back in a STF. I don't even think they were ranting at me, but what was getting to me was the fact that it was obvious that their performance was being impacted by the time hey were spending typing the #&#^^& they were "sharing." I finally had enough, and simply typed: It wasn't quite as eloquent as I would have liked, but I think they got the point, 'cuz the mindless berating stopped.
Actually, yesterday I had a brief encounter that was odd/rude/puzzling. It wasn't a queue, even, but the Undine Space Battlezone. I had just arrived on the map, intent on getting my first Undine run of the day (and, most importaint, the Daily Bonus Marks Box), but there was only 2 sections hat were still red. As I made my way to the nearest, it turned blue, so on I went to the next. The first person there started messaging me as I pulled up "Go away, find another spot," that kinda thing. Now, I know the point scales depending on how many are playing it, but other than swapping instances, I had nowhere else to go, and neither, apparently, did the rest of the players who soon arrived. I don't know how many of them they messaged before they declaired in local chat: "IDIOTS!!!!!" I'm not sure what they were thinking would happen to the last capture point on the map, but even if it made it more difficult, why should anyone deny themselves the opportunity to gain more marks (or in my case, Daily Marks) just because someone apparently wants to solo the point? A side note: the fleet they were in, unless the abbreviation has changed meaning, I'd think that they might be a little more sensative to hateful language & name calling...
That's blatantly wrong. The people described in that comment are 99% likely to be utterly clueless, not "elite".
Someone who is actually "elite" never rants in a Normal queue because the rest of the party are not needed. If you can solo the queue, why would you care about the rest of the party? You don't. You wouldn't even notice what they're doing.