Faeht vs. Scimitar?

whiteshores · November 2014

Hi all,

Long time player, but I just got my first Romulan character to 50! Woohoo!

So, with that comes the excitement of getting to the interesting ships. I pre-ordered the Ops Pack, so I've got access to those ships, including the two Romulan choices.

My dilemma is, I'm a Tac officer who likes to fly big ships. Battleships, cruisers, dreadnoughts, etc. However, I'm not *totally* against escorts, particularly if the difference in effectiveness is large.

I'm admittedly terrible with the numbers, so I'm looking for help on my next pick. I'm debating between the Faeht or the Scimitar (and only that - not all three versions). Is there any advantage to choosing the Scimitar over the Faeht, other than the Scimitar's very tempting 5 fore weapons slots? Note that it *will* be upgraded to T5U if I do take it.

Thanks so much!

reginamala78 · November 2014

Sort of a shotgun vs sniper rifle debate. Scimitar shines most as an AOE deathball, zip for subtlety but just melting everything in the vicinity. Faeth is more for high-speed precision use, appearing out of nowhere to absolutely crush an enemy or small group of enemies, then vanish again. Thats not to say you can't get good performance out of DHCs on a Scim or arrays on a Faeth, just a question of playing to each ship's strengths.

That said, if you already own the Faeth anyways, give it a shot (at least long enough to Master it and get the trait). If you don't like it, try the Aelhal (and get its very cool trait). And if after all that, its still not scratching your itch, then the Scimitar will still be there waiting.

seriousdave · November 2014

If you've already bought the Ops pack you don't "need" to shell out extra cash for a Scimitar.
Is it still a good ship? You can bet your TRIBBLE on that but the Faeht is also a damn fine birdy that will wreck house if handled right. If you dislike the escort-eque playstyle you can still go to the battlecruiser which is also solid, since you already have that too.

If you're really not getting warm with either of the T6 ships you can still buy the scimi but it'd probably be wiser to actually test them before purchasing another expensive ship.

potasssium · November 2014

I just never enjoyed the Scimitar, T'varo became my Romulan go to ship, using the Faeht and loving it, but she is slighly more fragile than the T'Varo. (Probally a result of comparing Fleet T5U T'varo to the T6 Faeht).

I love the faeht, and that lance console.

My biggest purchase regret in this game was the Scimitar 3pk, but that is just my taste, your mileage may vary.

spifficusmaximus · November 2014

I own the Scim 3 pack, the Aelhal, and was one of the legacy pack purchasers when Legacy first got released. I've flown almost every ship the Romulans have access to. Out of them all, I have to say the T'varo Fleet T5-U is my favorate.

farseeridranel · November 2014

The faeth is kind of a T6 t'varo. It has an enhanced battle cloak, so you can fire torpedoes or make gravity wells while under cloak. And that plasma lance....just awesome. I m a complete fail as tac, so i flew it as a beam boat with green mk x plasma arrays during the mirror event and it was still strong. A good tac captain can for sure build a dps monster with it. It is not oversized like the scimitar, it is fast, it looks nice and obviously you already have it. So why not use it?

Also fly the pelican cruiser for the trait (decoy when cloaking). That might be useful.

whiteshores · November 2014

Well, I've been trying out the Faeht, using some successful builds I've read about on here. It's important to clarify that my main is my Fed character, not my Romulan, so the ship does *not* have a ton of nice consoles and such.

That said ... If you get things just right, I'm finding you can blow some targets out of the water with the plasma lance. If that doesn't get them, the bombardment will. The ability to do gravity wells and to fire torpedoes while cloaked (I like this with my good plasma torp) are also fun and useful.

Having said that, the ship gets torn apart like paper if it becomes the focus of enemy fire. Either you manage to make it into cloak in time or you die. Now, this may be my playing bad, or it may be how I'm accustomed to doing things. I usually play big ships with more hull and shield strength, so they can weather the punches and flatly blow stuff up (my Fed flies a JHDC). The Faeht either blows the enemy up fast or gets destroyed if it fails, at least in my admittedly questionable hands.

So, I would pose the question: would I be investing in a waste if I purchased the Scimitar set? I have plenty of upgrade tokens, so it'd be T5-U. I just don't want to go there when, in reality, the numbers on T6 as they stand make the Scimitar obsolete.

reginamala78 · November 2014

whiteshores wrote: »

So, I would pose the question: would I be investing in a waste if I purchased the Scimitar set? I have plenty of upgrade tokens, so it'd be T5-U. I just don't want to go there when, in reality, the numbers on T6 as they stand make the Scimitar obsolete.

Might might not. The super-high-end Scimitars tend to be fragile but work off the idea that 'dead things can't hurt you' and go all-out on firepower. So to answer your question for yourself, I'd say roughly finish maxing out the traits on your Faeth (so you can get the ship trait), then switch to your Aelahl. If the Aelahl is piece-o-cake on survival and you just want more firepower, Scimitar should be your thing, but if the Aelahl doesn't work either (or is juuuust on the edge), then a Scimitar might be too fragile for your style.

Also may want to post your build and list what special gear you DO have on that toon. It may not be a cruiser, but the Faeht shouldn't be that squishy.

whiteshores · November 2014

Here are some details on my build. Before you cringe to death, I'll note again that my Fed is my main, so I pretty much had to slap what I could get onto the Faeht.

If any crafters out there would like to kindly supply better, I'd hardly complain! :P I fell way behind when my disability got worse. I sadly lack the EC to upgrade off of the exchange, as well.

FORE
Romulan Plasma Dual Cannons MkXII [CrtD][CrtH]
Plasma Dual Heavy Cannons MkX x2
Particle Emission Plasma Torpedo Launcher MkXIV [CrtD][CrtH]

AFT
Plasma Turret MkX x2
Plasma Turret MkVIII

ENG CONSOLES
RCS Accelerator MkX
EPS Flow Regulator MkX

SCI CONSOLES
Heavy Plasma Lance
Singularity Stabillizer
Tachyokinetic Converter

TAC CONSOLES
Plasma Infuser MkX x5

STATIONS

Eng Universal - EPtW1
Cmdr Int/Tac - IT1, OSS2, CSV2, ATB3
LtCdr Tac - TT1, ATB1, CSV2
Lt Int/Eng - EPtS1, DEM1
LtCdr Sci - HE1, TBR1, GW1

DOFFs

"Law" - Very Rare Projectile Weapons Officer, +torpedo recharge time
Rare Conn Officer - Chance for +accuracy, +perception with TT
Rare Conn Officer - Chance to reduce recharge time on Evasive Maneuvers
Uncommon Astrometics Scientist - Recharge time reduced on Transwarp abilities

reginamala78 · November 2014

Well higher-end weapons would obviously be nice, and you can farm a set of Mk11 [acc]x2 Caustic Plasmas from playing the mission Last Stand over and over again, or just get a nice set of the new Corrosive Plasmas. Maybe figure a way to put an APO in there for spikes and escaping tractor beams (especially the special ones the Vaadwaur use). Torpedo Spread3+CSV+APB+GW always makes a very nice mess and you certainly have a fancy torp for it. I think I'd also drop that DEM1 for either A2SIF1, RSP1, or maybe even Aux2Bat1 if you want to go farm the Technicians for it. Might work an EPTE in there somewhere if you feel you can live without EPTW or EPTS. Personally I'd also swap the EPS console for a neutronium, but thats just me and I hate having an unarmored hull. (Ideas beyond all that, we start going into buying specific stuff like the Singularity Harness set or the Valdore Consoles and doing more than merely tweaking)

Doffs are where I think you could really improve really quickly, especially if you're KDF-aligned (one they can get for free that Fed-aligned can't).

2 Damage Control Engineer (T4 Engineering CXP holo-doff, Klingons also get as an optional reward)
1 Gravimetric Scientist (from the Eridan Belt colonization chain)
2 Conn Officers (blue, Tac Team variant).

or if you go single A2B
3 Technicians (farmed from B'tran colonization)
1 Gravimentric Scientist
1 Conn Officer (blue or purple, Tac Team variant)

Either way, you get to have your two EPTx skills and your TT up all the time and have your gravity well proccing aftershocks. Should help some with situational control and survivability.

seaofsorrows · November 2014

whiteshores wrote: »

So, I would pose the question: would I be investing in a waste if I purchased the Scimitar set? I have plenty of upgrade tokens, so it'd be T5-U. I just don't want to go there when, in reality, the numbers on T6 as they stand make the Scimitar obsolete.

So, I'll be 'that guy' that comes around and says get the Scimitar.

Honestly, it's not even close. Even with T6, the Scimitar is, in my opinion, still by far the best ship in the game. I would not however, buy the 3 pack. Why?

The only advantage to getting the 3 pack is to use all 3 consoles. While they're all neat little gimmicks, they're a waste and most good Scimitar Pilots don't use any of them. The abilities are ok, but the ship is way too thin on consoles if you pack those 3 universals in there.

There is a better combination that will save you money. Just buy the one variant you like (I prefer the Scimitar Dreadnaught Warbird) and get that single ship. Then if you want to spend a bit more Zen on one of the best purchases you can make for it, purchase the Valdore Heavy Warbird for 1k Zen. It comes with a console that's arguably the most powerful in the game (Plasmonic Leach being the other) and the console will work on ANY Warbird.

You put the Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator console on the Scimitar, load it up with Beams and rip everything to shreds. The console will constantly fully recharge your shields and you'll melt opponents. If people tell you Scimitars are soft, they're not playing them right. The Scimitar can be one of the most durable ships in the game along with being the best damage dealer.

My vote is Scimitar all the way. It still renders every other Romulan ship obsolete.

warpangel · November 2014

The Scimitar is great, but if the Romulan isn't your main, I'd stick to one of the T6 ships you already have instead of spending another 2500 Zen + an upgrade token on the Scimitar.

dpsloss88 · November 2014

Faeht is a great Vaper, but only average for pve.

umiharayuu · November 2014

dpsloss88 wrote: »

Faeht is a great Vaper, but only average for pve.

I generally agree, but it's good for things like Azure and teaming.
When I know there's going to be a spamfull of NPC ships I go Scimitar.

ryakidrys · November 2014

At the last look I did, the scimitar held the highest DPS in PvE, before and after the release of DR...... If you like big slow moving beam boats, and want to have a ship that can lay out lots of damage to lots of targets, the scimitar has to be on the top of your list of ships to get.
If you want something to run a different play style with, to expand your abilities and such, then go with the Faeht.

Faeht vs. Scimitar?

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