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Are T5-U Vestas still a good choice?
argentus28
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Fairly new player here, so forgive me if this is a dumb question.
I am a big fan of science ships and abilities, though my primary character is a tac. My next character is going to be a science officer, so if I'm going to spend another 30 bucks or so on a ship, I'd like one that is good for both if possible.
The Vesta looks great and seems cool and the aux cannons and giant honkin' death ray from the Aventine are hard to pass up. My question is this: with the three T6 science ships available on the Fed side, is it foolish to buy a T5 ship and upgrade now?
Is not having a secondary deflector dish going to hamper my ability to contribute if/when I get to the tougher content?
Am I too new to ask the right questions on the topic? And if so, please educate me.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
I am a big fan of science ships and abilities, though my primary character is a tac. My next character is going to be a science officer, so if I'm going to spend another 30 bucks or so on a ship, I'd like one that is good for both if possible.
The Vesta looks great and seems cool and the aux cannons and giant honkin' death ray from the Aventine are hard to pass up. My question is this: with the three T6 science ships available on the Fed side, is it foolish to buy a T5 ship and upgrade now?
Is not having a secondary deflector dish going to hamper my ability to contribute if/when I get to the tougher content?
Am I too new to ask the right questions on the topic? And if so, please educate me.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Something you might try also is running your tac with the ship if you decide to get it. Tac toon powers do amplify science powers like grav well and tractor repulse rather well.
There are enough players out there using T5/T5-U/Fleet Ships in the Delta Quadrant. Yes, there are some tough missions and those players might have it a bit harder or it takes longer in certain missions.
Why do they use T5 ships? Because the quantity of the ships or maybe because there are the most iconic ships available, or the ships came from a Lock-Box or the Lobi-Store and are free upgradable.
I am a Sci too, I have all kinds of T5ers in my dock. I like them because of their appearance or abilities, but mostly because of their appearance.
There is quit a number of players flying ships because they like them visually more than others.
If you find the Vesta attractive and usable, buy her. If you think a T6 ship is more appealing, buy that.
Use the STO Wiki to compare the stats between the ships and then decide.
Not sure if you know it, but you can reclaim ships from the CStore also on other same-faction characters.
Your Bridge Officers can provide you with most abilities from your, and the other two professions.
The Secondary Deflector thing is a work in progress. Sooner or later they will include this mechanic fully into the game. Now you can only use the Solanae Secondary Deflector from another ship in this slot.
There are a lot of people running around and saying that T5/T5-U/T5-Fleet is useless now, also with T6-Fleet ships coming, but I say that it is much to early to send the T5 family into retirement.
There is also one guy flying a T5 Aquarius (the Stepmother of all ships) in the Delta Quadrant without to much problems.
What helps too (or you must do) is to do the Reputation projects for high-end gear, weapons, and traits.
T5 in the Delta Quadrant is doable, you just need to know what you are doing and how your playstyle is.
well u can change the hull skin anyway so dont worry about that.
And as someone who has a vesta (well i got all 3 in a sale but i only fly one really) she is a wonderful ship to fly.
her ability's make her a tough ship and the hanger can help with damage only minor improvement but still every little helps.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
The Vesta, upgraded or not, should still be able to perform.
But at this point of STO and in your situation, it is not a good idea to pursue the Vesta with your resources.
Firstly, the Fed T6 Science Vessels are all very good. If you want to do Science, each of them can do the job capably. Each of them also offers varying access to Intel abilities (Scryer if full fledged Intel capable). They have 13 BOFF skill slots vs 12 of T5/T5U. When Fleet T6 come out, they'll get the usual boosts to include +1 Console Slot.
Secondly, the future is in T6. Not T5U.
Thirdly, going by past patterns and what happened recently with the Intrepid, *IF* a T6 Vesta comes into play, possession of the T5 version will not make a T6 Vesta cheaper. I have owned all versions of the Intrepid in STO, and the new T6 Intrepid / Pathfinder did not give me a discount. Lower Tiered ships in STO have *NEVER* provided a discount to the next higher Tiered ships. Never at all in the history of the game.
Now, this would have been different if you already owned the Vesta from before and resources are a bit scarce. Your Vesta can still soldier on. But if you want the most value for your money and you want Science play with more perks, the Fed T6 Science Vessels are the only game in town so far, and they're quite effective.
Secondary Deflectors: The slot is a nice thing to have if for nothing more than stuffing more bonuses on the ship & build. The selection of Secondary Deflectors currently are extremely limited and cater to very specific science builds. They may or may not be of value, depending on the build. Who knows when new ones are coming? We've been wondering that for a year now.
However the problem is that we dont know anything the T6 fleet may only include T6 ships.
But at the end of the day if you arnt worried about top end dps a vesta is still a nice way to go.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, captain."- Tuvok
[3:08] [Combat (Self)] Riccardo deals 22708 (61982) Kinetic Damage to you with Multidimensional Graviton Shield.
[3:05] [Combat (Self)] Riccardo deals 11841 (9538) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to you with Tractor Beam Repulsor III.
Add in a Feedback Pulse II reflection of over 30k raw, EWP1 ticking 1k DoT damage per second, lost track of the log there though.
My science uses it as a drain platform, and it does great coupled with yellowstones, tasty tractor beams and EWP. The immunity shield provides a perfect button for "oh TRIBBLE!" moments, the Graviton Shield is torpedo boats' nightmares, and the Quantum Phaser can shred through everything if boosted enough.
Don't get your hopes high on a T6 Vesta, it won't happen. It's already a Fleet grade ship, and it comes with a bundle already.
Its epic fun!
If you want to use the Aux Cannons, try to equip one Fleet Neutronium Console with +HullHP and one Fleet RCS Console with +AllRes or +HullHP for more Defense and Turn Rate.
Something to look forward to as I start my reputation grind. Though it looks like Omega rep is going to very easy, given that I already have 200+ marks laying around just from doing red alerts on my way to 50.
I am using a set up close to that, but without the fleet goodies.
The crafted Conductive RCS console with Resist B, a very rare Mk XII Neutronium console and the crafted Particle console that gives +shields, Resist A and big boost to particles.
Almost 5 years later, its all been a grind... I think I joined STO the same time I took my current job. Except that with my job, I can drink at work within reason.
Ha, unless your HR Manager is the one mixing Moscow Mules at 3pm and walking around saying 'Get in the kitchen & drink'
ahm... I didnt know you were so far in the game already
I'm not, really. I just read the forums here and on Reddit and the first part of the game I concentrated on was the Exchange, so I had a couple of hundred million to sink into making my first 'real' ship fun.