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will there be a refit constitution class for T-6

mattlevriermattlevrier Member Posts: 2 Arc User
ok so i have been playing now for like two years and i am tired of the game. i just saw a email asking if i want a T-6 intrepid. i have three of those all ready can i please get a con. i am tired of the same next gen ships getting recycled. the new ships are cool but what i wanted was a con not a intrepid. i will not play the game till i have the option to buy a T-6 con. you guys want $$$ then get me a ship. till then its cold wallet time.
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  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    CBS said no, So its "never" gonna happen.
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Jesus don't you people know that end game constitution threads are not allowed?
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    But hey!

    We have even more ancient:

    ENT era Xindi Escorts
    ENT era Narcine Carrier
    ENT era Vulcan D'Kyr
    ENT era Andorian Escorts
    ... All at endgame!

    We've also got Starfleet, KDF, Romulan captains that fly in non-faction ships!

    And the best yet? You can fly Species 8472 Bioships :D

    But don't you dare ask about endgame Connies and Mirandas! Those ships are immersion breaking!
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited November 2014
  • mightymundanemightymundane Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I doubt you'll see it; but you might be able to get a T6 Excalibur Class Variant that has the same profile as the Constitution Class Refit if you push for it. It's the classic space frame with a TNG appearance which is probably the closest you'll get.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    iconians wrote: »

    But rises again harder and stronger!
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  • tiro100tiro100 Member Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    As always, I will keep my fingers crossed for a higher tier Exeter class. As for the connie, CBS is still adamant about saying no to it.
    Playing STO on and off since January 2nd, 2011!
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    ok so i have been playing now for like two years and i am tired of the game.

    Then stop playing it.

    can i please get a con.

    No
    i am tired of the same next gen ships getting recycled.

    Don't buy them. You're sick of the game anyway, so luckily it's a moot point.
    the new ships are cool but what i wanted was a con not a intrepid.

    And I want a forum where people stop making the same silly demands. Looks like neither of us are getting what we want.
    i will not play the game till i have the option to buy a T-6 con.

    It's time for you to uninstall STO.


    Take care.
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    This horse was beaten to death, raised as a ghost, and beaten to death again. I have little hope it will stay dead this time.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Ummm....

    So when can I expect to get my T7 Miranda????


    Better yet, can we get a T8 NASA Space Shuttle Enterprise?
  • uraciouseuraciouse Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Im not against a T6 Constitution. However it make no sense a a cruiser. It is just too small. If anything you would have to refit it as an escort and I just dont see that happening.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The Tier 2 Cruiser is the only Tier 2 Federation ship that doesn't have a Fleet counterpart. If we go by CBS' declaration of no Endgame Constitution, then that would mean no Constitution Refit as well. However, the solution is simple by just removing the Constitution Refit from the list of viable Fleet Cruiser Retrofit classes.

    While I would have preferred there to be no Fleet Science Vessel Retrofits or Fleet Escort Retrofits, they exist and the Fleet Cruiser Retrofit should exist as well without the Constitution Refit class available.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    But rises again harder and stronger!

    or gets it's TRIBBLE cut off
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  • rickskynightrickskynight Member Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    CBS said no, So its "never" gonna happen.

    Has anyone actually gone to the CBS building in Burbank CA. and asked them nicely if we could have an up to date connie in the game? I'd go but have no idea who to ask for. Its just a couple blocks east of Warner Bros. where I work at.

    I'll be honest, Im kinda wondering if CBS really did say that. Is there a source on the CBS official who supposedly said this?
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I love it, Cryptic is greedy greedy greedy...but when it comes to the Connie, Oh no they are not greedy anymore...you can't have it both ways people.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Has anyone actually gone to the CBS building in Burbank CA. and asked them nicely if we could have an up to date connie in the game? I'd go but have no idea who to ask for. Its just a couple blocks east of Warner Bros. where I work at.

    I'll be honest, Im kinda wondering if CBS really did say that. Is there a source on the CBS official who supposedly said this?

    Dan Stahl says that's what they said. He has no reason to lie or scapegoat them when they have a good working relationship with CBS, and considering they've 100% had the technological capability and financial incentive to create an end-game Connie, there's honestly no reason to believe this isn't the case.
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'll be honest, Im kinda wondering if CBS really did say that. Is there a source on the CBS official who supposedly said this?

    Does it really matter if they gave you a source? People would still complain and say that they want it.


    Bottom line is that we aren't gonna get an end-game Connie. Ever. Make peace with that and move on. Or don't. Just stop making rule breaking threads asking for it.
    It's not my fault if you feel trolled by my Disco ball... Sorry'boutit.



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  • cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I bet Cryptic misses the old Connie threads at this point.
  • rickskynightrickskynight Member Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Does it really matter if they gave you a source? People would still complain and say that they want it.


    Bottom line is that we aren't gonna get an end-game Connie. Ever. Make peace with that and move on. Or don't. Just stop making rule breaking threads asking for it.

    Yes it would matter. Because then I would have a point of contact I could ask myself. And if that point of contact wouldn't want to talk to an underling like me, I know some execs at my own studio who they would talk to for me.

    No offense dude, but I like having names of people who have claimed to say things. For all we know CBS's stance could have changed or an alteration to the agreement could be reached. As for making a rule breaking thread, the OP has a point. People associate a constitution class ship with star trek. The majority want that.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I miss the Can we Fly Klingon ships, we kinda had one the other day, but not TRIBBLE passionate as the classic ones.
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  • rickskynightrickskynight Member Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Yeah, cuz we all know about Cryptic's stubborn refusal to fleece the players wallets by constantly refusing to sell things players would throw money at hand over fist. :rolleyes:

    There are actually a ton of things cryptic could sell that arent even ship related that people would want. I'm really starting to think they don't have a functional marketing department.
  • chainfallchainfall Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Jesus don't you people know that end game constitution threads are not allowed?

    Well, if we get a T5 Connie that can't be Fleet or T5U, it isn't technically endgame anymore is it.
    STO would have been better as a Stargate MMO than it is as Star Trek. Go figure.

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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    In before T5 connie thread gets deleted.

    It was posted here as an official answer http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1162461
    End Game Constitution Class ship
    The answer to the T5 connie ship has been a no for 4 years and that answer comes from CBS. As such, there will not be a T5 constitution class ship in STO. This also means that any version of the ship will not be available as an End game ship. Exert from a Q&A with DStahl & from the livestream by Smirk -

    I think Askray or someone said somewhere a while back that they will deleting any T5 connie threads from now on because we have been given an answer on it many times already.

    Edited to remove rudeness. :P
  • cidstormcidstorm Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Why would they miss them? Idiots refuse to stop making them even after they've been told the Mods will lock them for violating the FCT.

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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Yes it would matter. Because then I would have a point of contact I could ask myself. And if that point of contact wouldn't want to talk to an underling like me, I know some execs at my own studio who they would talk to for me.

    No offense dude, but I like having names of people who have claimed to say things. For all we know CBS's stance could have changed or an alteration to the agreement could be reached. As for making a rule breaking thread, the OP has a point. People associate a constitution class ship with star trek. The majority want that.

    Maybe they aren't at liberty to say who at cbs made that decisions, or maybe they don't even know.
    If you have some kind of connection to find out then by all means use it, but it's not likely to change anything.


    Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind getting a t5/6 Connie at some point myself, but if it has gotten to the point that we have been told outright to stop asking then you have to conclude that it's just not gonna happen.

    As for the OP having a point, that doesn't really matter. End-game Connie thread are not allowed no matter how iconic the ship is or how many people want it.
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  • josan369josan369 Member Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Fine, let there be a Tier 5 Connie Class. BUT let the Malon fly them.

    Why you ask?

    Simple! Because they are used to handling galactic trash. :P
  • rickskynightrickskynight Member Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Maybe they aren't at liberty to say who at cbs made that decisions, or maybe they don't even know.
    If you have some kind of connection to find out then by all means use it, but it's not likely to change anything.


    Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind getting a t5/6 Connie at some point myself, but if it has gotten to the point that we have been told outright to stop asking then you have to conclude that it's just not gonna happen.

    As for the OP having a point, that doesn't really matter. End-game Connie thread are not allowed no matter how iconic the ship is or how many people want it.

    Yup we've been told out right many many times... I get that and heard you and everyone else the first time. But when has cryptic ever come back and said "Hey guys its the end of 2014, and we asked CBS and they said no again"... That one statement from them would put an end to most (not all but most) of these threads.. I've worked at a movie studio for a long time, mine might be CBS, but with Warner and Universal and even Disney, things do change and never stay the same. Even if the answer is still NO, an updated "NO" would go a long way with people.
  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I think the whole reason why we can't have a Tier 5/6 constitution is because of two reasons. One, the JJ-verse is using the ship now. Two, the ship class has been pretty much decommissioned from further production by the ship yards since the Enterprise-A got decommissioned. What we see with the Tier 2 ships are simply mothballed versions that have been deployed as a last minute need for ships.

    So please, just let this rest and accept that we're never getting an endgame Constitution. We have plenty of other ships that can be given the treatment of Tier 6.

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  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The contact man between CBS and Cryptic is John Van Citters as far as I know, unless it has changed.

    As other have said, Cryptic is not shy at all about getting every penny they can out of the playbase. There is zero reason they wouldn't sell us a T5 or 6 Connie if they could. Believing anything else is going pretty far into tinfoil hat territory.
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