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the1tigglet
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has anyone else had any luck with these things? Am I the only one who finds them absolutely useless?
They don't do enough burst damage from what I've seen on my tac/engi and they don't do enough exotic damage for my engi/sci and they don't proc really to be useful for a placate in PVE so really what good are they?
They don't do enough burst damage from what I've seen on my tac/engi and they don't do enough exotic damage for my engi/sci and they don't proc really to be useful for a placate in PVE so really what good are they?
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I am still trying to figure out why they even exist, or why Dev-time was wasted in creating them and implimenting them into the game.
Absolutely with you on this.
I was amazed, no - poleaxed when I saw the Rep system could get these crappy polaron weapons. Who in their right mind will ever buy them??? I was shocked with the ground wepons as well, They could have chucked in the Kobali crossbow in different forms (split/wide/sniper etc) and also the vaadwaur weapons like the pistol and the rifle, but no, they recycled the polaron ground wepons.....AGAIN.
Having the Kobali/Vaadwaur weapons on the rep would also help those who accidentally scrapped their mission rewards by accidentally thinking that they were just standard Polaron weapons.
You know you could replay the mission to get more Kobali weapons. But they will be Mk XI Rare and not the Mk XIII Rare original you had if you were inattentive in dumping it.
lol, No I actually kept mine, but I heard many did scrap them accidentally.
Well It would be nice to see a bolt-action crossbow rather than a beam.
Have they allowed you to win them on mission replays? Thats a change then becasue on the launch of DR, they couldn't be reattained on a replay. I shall check it out. Thanks for the update.
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Try a google image search. People have screen captured the set before, maybe searchable.
I ... think I'll skip the Torp ...
Uh, I think your missing the design benefits. "IF" you use the weapons set you get a very nice 180 degree 100% shield penetration weapon proc. IF you consider this the same as having a Zen-ship weapon console you are now getting the Gel-pack slot for free, since you didn't need the slot for the weapon console. So, now we are talking being locked into a Polaron set (beam or cannon config, with Torpedo) on a ship.
If your building a Torp Boat this won't matter. The Rep Torp combines with Quantum and Plasma, and I have a Really Nice T'Varo build using both "Hyper-Plasma" rep and the New Torpedos. The AoE proc on the new torp is really nice, the torpedo timing really syncs in nice, and I am really looking forward to adding another 4k Kinetic, 100% penetration damage weapon essentially for free.
Look at the overall build, not the individual pieces.
The problem is that the set bonus is meh and does not compare to the Dyson Set bonus. IMO Photons are still the best projectile to use followed by plasma. I am however curious on the new Lobi Store Plasma projectile set.
So use the torpedo in fore weapon slot but don't use it in aft slot. Dyson Sphere Rep System Torpedo is still a good choice with it's matching console 2 pc set gives your 26.6% torpedo damage boost.
Time will only tell!
Why they though these would be desirable is beyond me. They need a SERIOUS buff to the proc to be worth anything.
Oh trust me the space weapons aren't any better. It makes me wonder who designed these things. I'm a full science and I'm building an ALL radiation build for my ship and I can tell you that these weapons will NOT be on my ship, that's how useless they are.
It's almost as bad as the lack of Polaron damage boosts on the dyson tactical consoles out there. Somebody definitely dropped the ball on this one!
The only ground weapons I'm using are polaron for their weapons malfunction proc and the bio-molecular weapons from the 8472 stuff.
Different weapons will suit different builds...one should be able to look at both the weapons and the Delta Rep Space set to see the concept that's there. If that's not the concept of somebody's build, obviously they're not going to be the weapon of choice.
But some of the stuff said in this thread is akin to saying Elachi Crescents are garbage because they don't suit a particular build...
I used the beam arrays I got from boxes as I levelled the rep so no cost. I love the torpedo especially with high yield 2. Massive damage. The isokinectic cannon is just gravy. Nice 7000 damage every 1 minute that has 100% shield penetration.
Got the set on my avenger, 4 polaron tac consoles, jem'hadar engines and deflector with maco shield. Massive polaron boost.
I would like higher radiation damage but ultimately ALL the weapon procs are "useless".
Can't confirm myself, but I've heard that the torpedo in the set is currently broken and doesn't apply any procs.
This isn't true. Yes weapons procs have a low proc chance (mostly 2.5% but some as high as 10%) you fire so many volleys that you should be having a proc on every other target in normal play, and maybe once per target when you are fighting stronger enemies (pvp, npc dreadnoughts or advanced/elite difficulty).
Some procs are very good (antiproton which isn't even a proc but happens everytime you crit) others are good (disruptor, elachi) some are pretty awful (tetryon, refracting tetryon, unstable tetryon).
Comparing the polaron to the thoron infused polaron, the thoron infused polaron do a TINY amount of radiation damage. A regular polaron does an energy drain to all your target's systems - their weapons will hurt you less, their engines will be less effective thus lowering their defence making you miss less and crit more, their aux will be lower meaning their heals will be less and their sheild will regen and resist less.
So actually regular polaron is much better. You will kill your targets faster and be more effective.
...#LLAP...
Again, it's a build angle...what's the intent behind the build. Different weapons will be better at different things. It's an apples and oranges thing... If you're building for X, then A is going to be better. If you're building for Y, then B is going to be better. Sure, folks might lol at B...wondering why anybody would do that, but it wouldn't change it.
the game also stores screenshots in the game data somewhere. sto/live/screenshots or something like that. These however lack the UI, and if you're trying to screenshot weapon stats it won't have those.
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