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Refined Dilithium for the entire acount

gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
edited November 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I dunno if has been mentioned before (the serch doesnt work.. dunno why), but it would be more practical to have a pool of refined dilithium for the entire account?

Its similar to Diablo 3 gold and chest, that no mater how many characters you have, the gold is added to a universal pool.

I mean, that would be one less bit of data that the database need to track individually, isnt?

All my refined dilithium would be available, from all my chars... instead of using the Exchange for that...

The cap can keep been per char,, no problem with that, but refined?, its impractical, dont you think?

Any thoughts??

Thnx!
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  • jon1764jon1764 Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I see a problem with this. If you have an account pool for raw dilithium, and have each character refine 8000 max, players can just refine on one character, transfer it over to another, delete character, create new one, refine again, and transfer.

    Easily get around the 8000 max limit
  • nickodaemusnickodaemus Member Posts: 711 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Use the Dil exchange to transfer between characters on the same account:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=244370
  • otakuboytotakuboyt Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I would LOVE a pool for REFINED.
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    jon1764 wrote: »
    I see a problem with this. If you have an account pool for raw dilithium, and have each character refine 8000 max, players can just refine on one character, transfer it over to another, delete character, create new one, refine again, and transfer.

    Easily get around the 8000 max limit

    Its not for raw dilithim, only for refined.. :)
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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    nickodaemus wrote: »
    Use the Dil exchange to transfer between characters on the same account:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=244370

    As i mentioned in my post, i do that, but is an unecessary step :), my suggestion is a QoL one... along with the one that ask to put an alert once an upgrade is ready, like the inventory button flashing... :D
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  • generaljestergeneraljester Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Could work to eliminate the create delete situation that could arise, they could lock the pool access off till toons where a certain rank say 30.

    Then your less likely to just refine and delete as has been suggested could be the case.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    generaljester wrote: »
    Could work to eliminate the create delete situation that could arise, they could lock the pool access off till toons where a certain rank say 30.

    Then your less likely to just refine and delete as has been suggested could be the case.

    As i said... its only for refined dilithium, raw dilithium stays per char.. thanks! :)
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    If this were the case, would you live with an account-wide refine limit of 24,000, maybe 32,000? I think new silvers get 3x characters now (one per faction), and golds still have their +1...

    I think this has been said before, by the Devs. Account wide limit would require an matching, arbitrary and relatively low-ish, account wide limit...
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  • nickodaemusnickodaemus Member Posts: 711 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Refining & deleting is just dumb. Make an alt, earn more, refine it, then transfer it. Deletion why? 1 main & 2 alts is about all anyone can run these days because of the recent changes, but deletion is seriously not required. At all.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited November 2014
    An unrefined dil pool would be nice.

    Or get a lifetime subscription account. In addition to raising your daily per toon to 9K, dil automatically refines while your offline.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    AFAIK, there is no limit on refined dilithium, i have 12 chars, and 8000 ref Dilithium each.. but to get all in one pool, i have to go to the Exchange on EACH char... its annoying, to say the least... it would be more practical, after refining to have all your dilithium available for anything you want :cool:
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  • chainfallchainfall Member Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Dilithium might as well be treated the same as EC. Frankly, I think all currencies should be account pooled. That would finally be a point in favor of the new hotness.
    ddesjardins wrote: »
    Or get a lifetime subscription account. In addition to raising your daily per toon to 9K, dil automatically refines while your offline.

    I've never heard of this being the case, nor has it ever happened on my account.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
    leviathan99#2867
         Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    It seems most of this would be theoretically solved with a couple of steps:

    1) Make the account bank able to take raw unrefined dilithium.

    2) Replace the dilithium refinement cap with one tied to number of character slots. (Ie. creating and deleting won't provide an advantage.) This actually benefits people with multiple character slots even if they just play one of them.

    3) However, to offset how crazy this could get with someone who has 40+ character slots, make it so that the increased cap from each alt is "locked" until you play that alt.

    So for example, your account refinement cap might now be 2000 (account base) + 250 * Number of Character Slots owned.

    And each character you play for more than one hour per day unlocks an extra 5750 refinement potential on your account.

    This might mean someone with a TON of alt slots might gain some refinement potential but that actually is incentive to spend on alt slots at least.

    Because it's based on slots, creating and deleting characters would have no impact on it.
  • englishnodenglishnod Member Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    chainfall wrote: »
    Dilithium might as well be treated the same as EC. Frankly, I think all currencies should be account pooled. That would finally be a point in favor of the new hotness.



    I've never heard of this being the case, nor has it ever happened on my account.

    for the extra 1000 dil refine you need to go visit the vet refiner person at either of the academys or new romulus command
    Just when you thought it would be as easy as getting the extra 1000 refine cap as buying lifetime, afraid not.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    you can pool refined dil via the exchange... min or so of work on each toon.

    but a pool for unrefined can be exploited and will never happen unless they make it so only max level toons can have access to it. that will eliminate the potential for abuse by deleting and creating a new toon to get around the daily cap.
  • edwardianededwardianed Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    OP suggests an account-wide pool for refined dilithium, 90% respond with the problems of an account-wide pool for unrefined dilithium. I see that reading and comprehension are at their usual forum standards.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
    leviathan99#2867
         Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    edwardianed wrote: »
    OP suggests an account-wide pool for refined dilithium, 90% respond with the problems of an account-wide pool for unrefined dilithium. I see that reading and comprehension are at their usual forum standards.

    It would be pointless to discuss that. It's not poor comprehension. It's deliberate thread drift.
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I can see where you are coming from with this but I see unnecessary complications for some players, you may well have lots of alts that you use to farm dilithium so you can give it all to one or two main characters and this would save you the daily hassle of having to use the exchange to transfer the dilithium.
    I have 3 characters but play them all as mains, if my fed gets dilithium I use it for stuff he needs if my klink gets dilithium I use it for what he needs.
    creating a central pool would cause confusion, I might overspend on my fed and my Klingon or rom would suffer as a consequence.
    I can always on the odd occasion transfer dilithium through the exchange to a character say my fed if my rom or klink have plenty and there is nothing I need to use it for on them at that time or vice versa.
    I prefer to keep refined dilithium separate to each of my characters and I am sure there are some other players who feel the same.
    what you suggest is just adding unrequired work for the devs to add a function that you can easily do for yourself when they have much more important work to do fixing bugs that bother players much more then the occational trip to the dil exchange.

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