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Why devs turned Sela into a frog?

janetza#4790 janetza
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edited November 2014 in Romulan Discussion
Well I am not supporter of Sela, but why did the devs turned her looks into the frog? I was thinking it is a caricature and the whole episode was a joke... But it was not. She is...well...ugly now.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Perfect...
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  • kitsunesnoutkitsunesnout Member Posts: 1,210 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    There was the frog prince,,, but now the frog empress? Well then, who's going to make the kiss to save her?! Hahaha!

    Though I must admit, I don't exactly remember what she looked like before, I don't have a good memory for faces and I can't personally say she looks bad.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited November 2014
    honestly it looks closer to denise crosby's actual jaw line imo than the older pointy face

    http://www.startrekguide.dk/images/sela.jpg

    old sto sela:
    http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/5/5c/Sela.png?version=22da738b86fc34db5725c3b4d4fa26a8

    new sto sela: (from launcher image)
    http://i.imgur.com/vhGbHTz.jpg
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    honestly it looks closer to denise crosby's actual jaw line imo than the older pointy face

    http://www.startrekguide.dk/images/sela.jpg

    old sto sela:
    http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/5/5c/Sela.png?version=22da738b86fc34db5725c3b4d4fa26a8

    new sto sela: (from launcher image)
    http://i.imgur.com/vhGbHTz.jpg

    They could slim down the jawline a smidge.
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  • kitsunesnoutkitsunesnout Member Posts: 1,210 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    So, we are more true to her looks then now. Then I'd say they did their job remaking her appearance. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and the idea is to recreate Sela as accurately as possible to how she was in real Star Trek, not be a re-beautification contest of canon characters that makes them hardly look like they should. So I think Sela is fine and true to her appearance or very close to it. *posts updated campaign posters of her on New Romulus* :P
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    taut0u wrote: »
    She is...well...ugly now.

    You try being imprisoned by malevolent mushrooms in subspace while your crew is taken away one by one and killed in horrible ways for months and see how you look afterwards.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »
    You try being imprisoned by malevolent mushrooms in subspace while your crew is taken away one by one and killed in horrible ways for months and see how you look afterwards.

    She'd be more gaunt, not fatter.
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  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited November 2014
    She's been in captivity for months. It's not inconceivable that this is actually a poor quality replicant sent to deceive us.
  • astro2244astro2244 Member Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    taut0u wrote: »
    Well I am not supporter of Sela, but why did the devs turned her looks into the frog? I was thinking it is a caricature and the whole episode was a joke... But it was not. She is...well...ugly now.



    Yeah the strange thing is that she looks more like Kes with green blood now.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    she is like 40 years older than in TNG...40 years of increased age aren't kind to women, even if they are alien mongrels.
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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Some people seem to think prison is like a luxury hotel stay.... heads up: its not. especially not at the masters of the universe enslavement camp.
  • mailman650mailman650 Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I get the impression that the first Sela was made to look like she did in TNG but that was ages ago now. I think the new Sela probably reflects what she would look like now, older obviously.

    For example, imagine if they made Captain Kim look exactly like he did when he was an Ensign, it wouldn't make sense IMO.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,014 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I see the difference, but the new model looks actually more like denise crosby than the old one. The old was like the old STO worf that looked nothing like michael dorn. The original STO sela was like a generic NPC as well. Now, the new model is somewhat flawed, just like the robert picardo look alike we have. They look somewhat... stiff and a bit off.
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I see the difference, but the new model looks actually more like denise crosby than the old one. The old was like the old STO worf that looked nothing like michael dorn. The original STO sela was like a generic NPC as well. Now, the new model is somewhat flawed, just like the robert picardo look alike we have. They look somewhat... stiff and a bit off.

    Well, I hope the didn't delete the old Sela. That model could still be used as an effective Senior Tal Shair NPC if the hair is changed to raven black, and the colors of her uniform are also changed.
  • robyvisionrobyvision Member Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    taut0u wrote: »
    Well I am not supporter of Sela, but why did the devs turned her looks into the frog? I was thinking it is a caricature and the whole episode was a joke... But it was not. She is...well...ugly now.

    If you kiss her screenshot she will turn in a beautiful orion :D
  • fmgtorres1979fmgtorres1979 Member Posts: 1,327 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I thought it was supposed to better show her age. But I really don't know if romulans would age as much as humans.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Well... they live longer that much we know, but we don't really know how long they stay youthful. Hiren and most of the senators in insurrection didn't look young.
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  • judeconnorsjudeconnors Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    honestly it looks closer to denise crosby's actual jaw line imo than the older pointy face

    http://www.startrekguide.dk/images/sela.jpg

    old sto sela:
    http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/5/5c/Sela.png?version=22da738b86fc34db5725c3b4d4fa26a8

    new sto sela: (from launcher image)
    http://i.imgur.com/vhGbHTz.jpg

    Without a doubt, the new Sela is closer to the live-action version.


    In addition, who cares, really? If you want to get your rocks off on animations, google some hentai. Jeeeez.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    markhawkman wrote: »
    Well... they live longer that much we know, but we don't really know how long they stay youthful. Hiren and most of the senators in insurrection didn't look young.

    Non-canon sources give 250 years as a lifespan for Romulans.

    The word "senator" derives ultimately from PIE *sen- (which means "old"). The original ideal of "senate" seems to have been akin to a tribal "council of elders."
  • caediciuscaedicius Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    But of course it is open how her mixed heritage influenced that. Spock as half-human, half-Vulcan seem to have no problems to reach the "normal Vulcan age" (or so it seems more or less - and he had a tough life), but I do not know if it is the same with a Romulan-Human mix...
  • odyssey47odyssey47 Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    baudl wrote: »
    she is like 40 years older than in TNG...40 years of increased age aren't kind to women, even if they are alien mongrels.

    She's the same age now as T'Pol was on Enterprise. She should not look like an old hag. Being half human isn't an excuse, Spock was half human and seemed to age the same as a full blooded Vulcan.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Cryptic turned Sela into a frog...
    ...because Braga already did salamanders.
  • rosetyler51rosetyler51 Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I thought Sela was always a toad?
  • reximuzreximuz Member Posts: 1,172 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    odyssey47 wrote: »
    She's the same age now as T'Pol was on Enterprise. She should not look like an old hag. Being half human isn't an excuse, Spock was half human and seemed to age the same as a full blooded Vulcan.

    Really? Cause it looked like he was aging in appearance at the same rate as Kirk and McCoy. Maybe you haven't seen the movies?
  • paxfederaticapaxfederatica Member Posts: 1,496 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    My initial theory was that the devs did this as a legal workaround to the old Sela's apparently-not-quite-authorized availability to Foundry authors as a stock NPC costume. I figured they must have left that costume (labeled "Romulan Ensign Female 04" in the Foundry editor) untouched so that it would no longer resemble Denise Crosby's in-game likeness.

    However, checking that costume in the Foundry, I see that it too has been updated to reflect Sela's new, uglied-up look - a curious move on the devs' part, as CaptainSmirk long ago admonished Foundry authors not to use the costume to represent Sela herself. (The costume carries a tongue-in-cheek description of an ensign who just happens to resemble Sela.)
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'm not sure how much weight to give Smirk's comment. I don't remember how much he actually looked in to it.
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