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Tier5-U and Tier6 stats getting closer together..

hyefatherhyefather Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
Before Delta Rising was released I was led to believe that Tier 5 ships would be on par with Tier 6 ships through a upgrade system. Well Deltas out now and I feel like Cryptic did in fact keep thier word but only by providing the bare minimum. What I mean is "Yes" we got a better Tier 5 ship and "Yes" I would consider it be as competitive as a Tier6 ship but I still wouldn't consider it to be as good as a Tier6 ship. What I think the ship needs is this.

The main selling point for Tier 6 ships I believe is the Trait you get for leveling the ship to Mastery level 5. I think most ppl will buy Tier 6 ships, level them up to get the trait then park them in thier shipyards to never see the light of day again. With that said, I think that aspect of Tier 6 ships should be exclusive to them to always help them sell and make money for Cryptic.

So heres my argument. I still feel like tier5 ships after being upgraded to tier5-U are still a samll bit underPowered. Wnat I propose is this. On all Tier5-U ships. Upgrade the ensign boff station to Lt. and (Please) make the universal boff stations able to slot intel boffs. I believe this will do wonders in blurring the lines between Tier5-U and Tier6. Because of the Tier6 exclusive trait I also believe adding these improvements to Tier5-U ships will in no way hurt the sale of tier6 ships. I also believe this may even improve the sale of older Tier5 ships. Especially ones you get in lockboxes and Lobi becasue people will know these ships are not underpowered and recieve worthwhile improvements when upgraded. I see this as a Win, Win for both the Players and Cryptic.

So what say you. Ensign upgraded to Lt and Universal stations able to take intel boffs. Should this go into effect immediately or do you think Tier5-U ships are buffed enough or do you have a completely diffrent outlook on the whole situation. I'm interested in know.
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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    So you propose to give T5 the exact same amount of boff powers and intel capabilities through your T5U upgrade that T6 ships have......


    It's not like we don't have enough "I want a T6 upgrade"-threads around here....:rolleyes:
  • hojain2020hojain2020 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    unlikely to happen. Cryptic's overall gameplan is to sell Fleet Tier 6 rather than improve tier 5U. No wonder they have increased speed of acquiring Mastery Traits but not specialization points. They want you to run through all the silly Tier-6 to aquire traits and then make sure you have incentive to keep buying the average Tier 6 ships and finally shove in Tier 6 Fleet version.
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  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    My biggest annoyance is that one-on-one, the T6 abilities can flatten you. I know that with the wobbly one, Hazard Emitters can help, but it is pretty unfair. A console is one thing, because they're finite and I'm sure that when you're in a T6 and fighting against the game it's great that you have all of these abilities...but anyone who doesn't go T6 really is screwed in PvP.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    hyefather wrote: »
    So heres my argument. I still feel like tier5 ships after being upgraded to tier5-U are still a samll bit underPowered. Wnat I propose is this. On all Tier5-U ships. Upgrade the ensign boff station to Lt. and (Please) make the universal boff stations able to slot intel boffs.
    ONLY Intel BOFFs? No other specializations? :(
  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    hyefather wrote: »
    Before Delta Rising was released I was led to believe that Tier 5 ships would be on par with Tier 6 ships through a upgrade system.

    They were both two separate systems ALL along. It was clearly outlined with the blogs that T5U will never be on par with T6. Sorry you read it wrong and don't think anyone thought that was the case. It's a money scheme and if you want a true T6 ship might as well buy one like Cryptic wants you too :D
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  • stonelokistoneloki Member Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Sorry but this is not entirely true.

    At the moment, after finishing getting the T6 ship traits on FED, my Dommie dread with Bug pets whipes the floor as far as DPS and survivability goes of any of the new T6 ships. You keep the T6 traits after getting them and can apply them to ANY ship you fly after that.

    If anything those T6 ships now simply take up hangar space, as they can't at the moment put out the kinda DPS that many of the T5-U ships can.

    As of now, they are all parked, and don't even get me started on the Romulan and Klink T6 ships.

    So to say T5-U got shafted, no way, if anything T6 ships as of writing this are simply under performing in the area's they need to be performing better in.
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  • artificial86artificial86 Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    And yet another useless "I want a T6 upgrade" thread.
  • zionlythzionlyth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    stoneloki wrote: »
    Sorry but this is not entirely true.

    At the moment, after finishing getting the T6 ship traits on FED, my Dommie dread with Bug pets whipes the floor as far as DPS and survivability goes of any of the new T6 ships. You keep the T6 traits after getting them and can apply them to ANY ship you fly after that.

    If anything those T6 ships now simply take up hangar space, as they can't at the moment put out the kinda DPS that many of the T5-U ships can.

    As of now, they are all parked, and don't even get me started on the Romulan and Klink T6 ships.

    So to say T5-U got shafted, no way, if anything T6 ships as of writing this are simply under performing in the area's they need to be performing better in.

    Not to mention that the t6 c-store ships currently have 1 less console slot than t5u ships do.

    Ships like the Scimatar, Voth DC, Avenger and many other simply outperform the c-store t6, and more than equal the lockbox t6ers.
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,923 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    just out of curiosity... all you guys who want the equality for t5 to t-6...

    do you go out and buy a new power train, brakes, stereo seats and electrical and retrofit your 1978 for fairmont?

    or do you just go buy a new car?
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    hyefather wrote: »
    The main selling point for Tier 6 ships I believe is the Trait you get for leveling the ship to Mastery level 5. I think most ppl will buy Tier 6 ships, level them up to get the trait then park them in thier shipyards to never see the light of day again.

    That is what I currently do. If anything, it goes *against* your plea for better T5-U ships, though.
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  • zionlythzionlyth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    just out of curiosity... all you guys who want the equality for t5 to t-6...

    do you go out and buy a new power train, brakes, stereo seats and electrical and retrofit your 1978 for fairmont?

    or do you just go buy a new car?

    No.... but I don't buy a new computer every time. I upgrade the processor and GPU (performance) but keep the computer box (look of the ship) the same.

    It's really more of how you look at it. Some people want their favorite iconic ships to be as viable as the ugly tier 6ers.
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