That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.
That poor cat. So inspiring, definitely worth remembering his sacrifice.
I do actually know the real answer but it happened two years before I was born, so the whole thing is kind of abstract to me.
nvm, dude .... i've been 8 years old and still remember those pictures on our tv. i did not get what happened by then, but it had had it's impact and had been very impressive. still when i see those pictures it's like a pure FLAAAASH .
...and today there are many pictuers on the matter in german tv lol.
I do actually know the real answer but it happened two years before I was born, so the whole thing is kind of abstract to me.
I was 11 and in the US so I had a rudimentary understanding of what was going on and that it was part of a much larger series of events in motion at that time.
I was 11 and in the US so I had a rudimentary understanding of what was going on and that it was part of a much larger series of events in motion at that time.
so very true. though i'm out for a very important and particular moment within that motion that happened today, 25 years ago. one may could say "IT'S A FAAAKE" ...
Remember it well, i was 12 at the time.....Also remember my favourite band "Pink Floyd" wrote a song about it, with another epic guitar solo from Dave.
Remember it well, i was 12 at the time.....Also remember my favourite band "Pink Floyd" wrote a song about it, with another epic guitar solo from Dave.
I remember an episode of Alvin and the Chipmunks where they were hoping this event would some day come about. I imagine it was well received in Brandenburg. Unless it was walled off by the censors by a broadcasting gate.
The cold war between the Federation and the Klingon Empire came to an end after the explosion of Praxis, assassination of Gorkon, and the Kitomer Accords...
What's a 'real life'?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I was 6 at the time and in West-Germany. Dont remember it happening at the time, but it was a real big thing for our country. I would have not met some people otherwise.
I was 6 at the time and in West-Germany. Dont remember it happening at the time, but it was a real big thing for our country. I would have not met some people otherwise.
25 years ago i was almost 2 years old, so no way i would understand back then. however one of the first things i do remember when i was young was watching the 1998 spa gp race, what an epic start! :P.
anyways, the wall falling doesnt mean much to me in all that time.
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My Country was murdered by some people that thought they can go everywere without money.
Was to young as it happend under 10. But if it whould not i whould not play Star Trek Online now and might not even have a PC so its fine that it happend.
But there are so much more Walls that have to go down, the walls between rich and poor the wall in Palestina, the Wall between US and Mexico and the Wall between Korea.
18 Cpt on the way to 60: 14 of them are already 50 or over 50, one is 60 and 3 almost 43
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Was pretty wild for me. I was in college at the time, and seeing history happen in real time was something relatively new to me... but in this case, welcome.
Actually, what I remember even better is when Hungary opened its border with Austria - which meant the Iron Curtain had suddenly sprung a leak. It seemed like the whole Warsaw Pact would empty out in a matter of weeks, as everyone who could make a break for it did. (A SNL skit at the time had an East German version of "The Hollywood Squares" grinding to a halt as most of the celebrities, the host and the contestants defected mid-program.)
Not just the wall came down, but the communist governments of eastern Europe came toppling down
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Not just the wall came down, but the communist governments of eastern Europe came toppling down
not to forget the polish people started "the motion"! (solidarnoscz) ... and yep, that day has been like the big turning point. though the answer i was out for not got dropped yet ...
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
On December 21, 1989, my discharge from the US Air Force finally came through (it had been stuck on a desk at HQAF for six months - that's what I get for having a TS-ESI clearance and catching a discharge for "unsuited for service - not otherwise specified", as the DSM-IV and its criteria for Asperger's Syndrome were still five years in the future).
yeah, again.... as imptortant his influence may was, not out for reagan lol.... u never heard of someone called schabowsky, his lil' mistake and the uncoordinated luck we had afterwards in which no one had a clue what to do, did ya?!
indeed on 9th nov the most scared side has been the western allies (most didn't want a united germany). if just the nva-bodertroops had been too scared, if the soviets/gorbi would have been scared.... i guess u'll get the (bloody) picture ....
to conclude:
i just love this day because it's one of the coincidences in history in which the events took the best possible way. and the other way really could have led to, as many times before and afterwards, dooooom/total doom....
that makes it very trekkish to me.
what was i'm out for:
schabowsky was the one to read the new ddr travel-law for the press. it was planned to release that on the 10th of november under controlled circumstances.
he made the mistake not being informed (lol) about that 10th november thingie, so he said it's instantly. no borderstation, nor any other of the ddr institutions had been informed, it was a total surprise for everyone.
then the people went to the borderstations in masses and the release began. in a situtation one more likely would expect from such a regime to not tear walls down, but to pwn the own people (as happened many times in the cold war, just like before and afterwards).
the man to thank in this regard in the end is no one but gorbi. he was the one with the finger on the trigger he didn't pull!
yeah, again.... as imptortant his influence may was, not out for reagan lol.... u never heard of someone called schabowsky, his lil' mistake and the uncoordinated luck we had afterwards in which no one had a clue what to do, did ya?!
lmaorofl ... dudes.... it's ok.... u can celebrate a certain date in history together with others, though u don't have to. u can feel certain moments in history as "trekkish", i really don't force u to have that feeling on the same occasions as me.
feel free to start a thread on every single celebration day or action/declaration from any american or whatsoever statesman there ever was, or of any religion/happening/whatever.
i really don't care what reagan may contributed to get there, he did not went to the wall on 9th of november 1989. and that is what this thread is about: the wall and all what happened around it on that day 25 years ago. not before, nor after.
i gift u this thread now. feel free to drop whatever ... have a nice day.
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I hope to get a wall of answers.
I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
not in particular, but somehow yeah ... close ...
here's a photo with "that guy" in "that moment"
I do actually know the real answer but it happened two years before I was born, so the whole thing is kind of abstract to me.
nvm, dude .... i've been 8 years old and still remember those pictures on our tv. i did not get what happened by then, but it had had it's impact and had been very impressive. still when i see those pictures it's like a pure FLAAAASH .
...and today there are many pictuers on the matter in german tv lol.
I was 11 and in the US so I had a rudimentary understanding of what was going on and that it was part of a much larger series of events in motion at that time.
can see what ya did there
so very true. though i'm out for a very important and particular moment within that motion that happened today, 25 years ago. one may could say "IT'S A FAAAKE" ...
I remember an episode of Alvin and the Chipmunks where they were hoping this event would some day come about. I imagine it was well received in Brandenburg. Unless it was walled off by the censors by a broadcasting gate.
What's a 'real life'?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I was 6 at the time and in West-Germany. Dont remember it happening at the time, but it was a real big thing for our country. I would have not met some people otherwise.
But seriously, It was the beginning of the end to the Cold War, and it was an awesome way to end a interesting decade.
... there they go
anyways, the wall falling doesnt mean much to me in all that time.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Was to young as it happend under 10. But if it whould not i whould not play Star Trek Online now and might not even have a PC so its fine that it happend.
But there are so much more Walls that have to go down, the walls between rich and poor the wall in Palestina, the Wall between US and Mexico and the Wall between Korea.
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Actually, what I remember even better is when Hungary opened its border with Austria - which meant the Iron Curtain had suddenly sprung a leak. It seemed like the whole Warsaw Pact would empty out in a matter of weeks, as everyone who could make a break for it did. (A SNL skit at the time had an East German version of "The Hollywood Squares" grinding to a halt as most of the celebrities, the host and the contestants defected mid-program.)
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
not to forget the polish people started "the motion"! (solidarnoscz) ... and yep, that day has been like the big turning point. though the answer i was out for not got dropped yet ...
1989 (Taylor Swift album)
Taylor was born i hope you dont mean
ok i think i found it http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098382/ but thats one of the worst ST Movies
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...i think u missed the 9th of novembre about 7 days :P... but nice accident lol ...
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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u know, on star treks 30th anniversary i bought a hoodie printed with: "to know the future is to experience the past" ...
yeah, again.... as imptortant his influence may was, not out for reagan lol.... u never heard of someone called schabowsky, his lil' mistake and the uncoordinated luck we had afterwards in which no one had a clue what to do, did ya?!
indeed on 9th nov the most scared side has been the western allies (most didn't want a united germany). if just the nva-bodertroops had been too scared, if the soviets/gorbi would have been scared.... i guess u'll get the (bloody) picture ....
to conclude:
i just love this day because it's one of the coincidences in history in which the events took the best possible way. and the other way really could have led to, as many times before and afterwards, dooooom/total doom....
that makes it very trekkish to me.
what was i'm out for:
schabowsky was the one to read the new ddr travel-law for the press. it was planned to release that on the 10th of november under controlled circumstances.
he made the mistake not being informed (lol) about that 10th november thingie, so he said it's instantly. no borderstation, nor any other of the ddr institutions had been informed, it was a total surprise for everyone.
then the people went to the borderstations in masses and the release began. in a situtation one more likely would expect from such a regime to not tear walls down, but to pwn the own people (as happened many times in the cold war, just like before and afterwards).
the man to thank in this regard in the end is no one but gorbi. he was the one with the finger on the trigger he didn't pull!
Some say that WW1 and WW2 are one Big 30 year War.
Some thing Kennedy was shot because Fidel Castro wanted him dead some thing it was the CIA some think it was the one that they got for it.
Some think that the USA were never on the Moon.
And i thought your are looking for a Star Trek Event in 1989. "one of the most trekkish moments in history"
In the end it does not really matter who did what, its all History now.
And in 1000 Years no one really will know enough about this like we dont know what happen 1000 or 2000 or more years ago on ower Planet.
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feel free to start a thread on every single celebration day or action/declaration from any american or whatsoever statesman there ever was, or of any religion/happening/whatever.
i really don't care what reagan may contributed to get there, he did not went to the wall on 9th of november 1989. and that is what this thread is about: the wall and all what happened around it on that day 25 years ago. not before, nor after.
i gift u this thread now. feel free to drop whatever ... have a nice day.
btw: thx for dropping j
those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it.