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Need advice on getting a new warbird, I have a choice of three.

ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
edited November 2014 in Romulan Discussion
I was saving up quite a lot of Dil, and have decided to use it to convert to Zen to buy a ship. I had my eyes on the T'varo retrofit, as I like the enhanced battle cloak (I already have the B'rel retrofit for my klink), but now that we have this nice mirror event, this is going to give me a huge dil payoff in a couple of weeks which means that I will be able to go for the Scimitar class warbirds, or even the T6 Faeht Intel warbird, but which one do I choose?

The Faeht is a T6, and it has the Enchanced cloak, but the Scimitar dreadnought has many advantages too.

I know that there are players who are also very happy with the T'varo, and buying the T'varo will mean I will have much change in Dil to spend on other items.

So, if you had the choice of the three, what would you get? I will also like to hear on suggestions on alternatives.

Any advice would be helpful :)
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  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Depends on which playstyle you prefer more.

    Faeht is flat up superior to the T'varo - no real reason to get the latter anymore. The Faeht works well as a standard attack ship or a torpedo bomber or even as a control ship.

    Scimitar is a big drop-in-the-middle-of-the-battlefield-and-pew-pew-everything-to-dust kind of ship. It's also great at making everyone's life miserable at every social nexus with its huge hitbox and generally getting stuck in space-traffic.
  • ryakidrysryakidrys Member Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The scimitar is still one of the best ships in the game in PvE or PvP when setup and piloted in certain ways. It's easily used incorrectly, flown incorrectly, etc. and blown to bits in short order too.

    I run one in PvE content as a beam boat. Prior to DR, it had the highest recorded DPS in a STF, so there is truth to backup the high DPS claims of the ship you may have heard about.
    It can be a beam boat or a DHC/ Turret beast. It can be run in both A2B and without A2B and both can be extremely deadly. Prior to DR, I ran the scimi in both A2B and non-A2B beam boat configurations and was getting virtually the same DPS in both configurations in Infected, cure and khitomer.

    Make sure that the advantages of a ship suits your playstyle if you want something you like. I know some good players who hate the scimitar because what it does well does not fit their playstyle well.
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    None of the above - wait a while until we see what other T6s are coming.
  • ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    ryakidrys wrote: »
    The scimitar is still one of the best ships in the game in PvE or PvP when setup and piloted in certain ways. It's easily used incorrectly, flown incorrectly, etc. and blown to bits in short order too.

    I run one in PvE content as a beam boat. Prior to DR, it had the highest recorded DPS in a STF, so there is truth to backup the high DPS claims of the ship you may have heard about.
    It can be a beam boat or a DHC/ Turret beast. It can be run in both A2B and without A2B and both can be extremely deadly. Prior to DR, I ran the scimi in both A2B and non-A2B beam boat configurations and was getting virtually the same DPS in both configurations in Infected, cure and khitomer.

    Make sure that the advantages of a ship suits your playstyle if you want something you like. I know some good players who hate the scimitar because what it does well does not fit their playstyle well.

    Well this is where I am torn. I have multiple ships already, ranging from whales to raiders, so I can adopt different playstyles according to my mood, hence why I'm torn.

    Of course the question would also be very relevant as to what would be the ultimate, a T5U Scimitar, or a T6 Intel warbird.

    Also my char is a Reman, so i'm also thinking for Canon's sake if I get the Scimitar to keep in line with my choice of race.

    Eventually, I may end up with both ships, but I would like to pick something to begin with which will put a smile on my face :)
  • ryakidrysryakidrys Member Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Current record holder for max DPS in a STF is a scimitar beam boat.
    If PvE DPS is your goal, the scimitar has the credentials.
    Is it fun to fly? That depends on your idea of fun.
  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    ironmako wrote: »
    The Faeht is a T6, and it has the Enchanced cloak, but the Scimitar dreadnought has many advantages too.

    When I first read that I thought you had wrote that the Faeht has an enchanted cloak. :D

    Get the Faeht. Looks super-cool (as many Romulan ships do), nice versatile boff layout and an excellent console layout. Can make use of intel powers (go use ionic turbulence on a borg cube!). Everyone and their brother drives a Scimitar.
  • certiorari2012certiorari2012 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Personally, I'd go with the t6 to grab the ship trait.
  • reximuzreximuz Member Posts: 1,172 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The Feaht is going to fly a lot more like a T'varo, the Scimitar is a big boat. The intel powers and Plasma lance are also pretty nice, as is being able to use torps and most powers while cloaked. Also, the Feaht gives you a nice Starship Mastery power, as does the Aelahl for that matter.
  • dova25dova25 Member Posts: 475
    edited November 2014
    My reman kdf have all the three .

    My advice is to buy Faeht first and try the new Intel powers
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  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I've flown:

    Scim BFAW A2B spamboat
    Tvaro BFAW A2B spamboat (Tvaro and Scim have near identical boff seating)
    Scim A2B DHC boat
    Tvaro stealth bomber (on a Sci toon)

    And now i'm in a Faeht BFAW spamboat. Of these ships the Faeht has been the most fun so far. Having close to the same firepower as a Scim and the manueverability of a Tvaro is what i like the most. As well as having a few additional toys that the other ships dont even get like Intel ship abilities, intel boff abilities and the plasma lance.
  • karlbarbkarlbarb Member Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'd say it depends on what profession your captain is.

    Obviously, if all you care about is DPS, go Scimitar. That thing is a beast. A huge ungainly clunky beast, lol. I actually stopped flying it because it's just too damn massive. Seriously, it makes a D'Deridex look small.

    If you prefer small and speedy, and you are a Tactical captain, Faeht is very very good. Being able to use ALL your bridge officer abilities cloaked (including self heals) can't be understated. Mind you, if you are a Science captain, T'Varo T5-U is better in my opinion as it has a fourth science console, and you can have up to 5 science boff slots vs the 4 on the Faeht. Personally, I'm also just very fond of the big red torp and it's lovely AOE blast ;)

    If you're an Engineer like myself, I suggest checking out the new Aelahl battlecruiser. I personally LOVE this ship (and just yesterday capped it's level 5 trait). It's solid, can take good hits, *twice* as maneuverable as a D'Deridex (even more so with the turn speed console), and I equipped it to be a forward facing monster with cannons in the front and turrets in the back. It can turn with pretty much any ship except for fighters and really small ships like Tholian Mesh Weavers at short range.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Faeht - It makes the Fleet T'Varo utterly obsolete. That statement alone should tell you how good a ship the Faeht is. All the things that a T'Varo can do, except for the plasma torp console, the Faeht is just straight up superior. If you want to fly such ships, save the money, do not buy the T'Varo, and go for the Faeht. The T5 starship mastery trait is also fabulous for escapes when you've taken heavy damage, something light hulled ships really need.

    Scimitar - Still a top of the line Pre-DR style DPS machine.

    Aehlal - Not too much coverage of this ship and others have already talked about other popular choices. The Aehlal is not an outright Intel Cruiser like the Fed Eclipse and KDF Qib and doesn't have that same crazy degree of customization that they have. But it has the characteristics of a solid Battlecruiser:
    - Excellent turning, handling
    - Dual / Dual Heavy Cannons can be equipped.

    In addition, it has:
    * TAC heavy Cruiser BOFF setup with the Lt SCI/Intel Hybrid seat.
    * Romulan Battle Cloak. Only Battlecruiser other than the Aehlal that has a Battlecloak is the KDF Qib.

    The Aehlal has the BOFF seating and handling characteristics to be a good DHC Battlecruiser or a Beamboat. The advantage the Aehlal has that no other Non-Intel Battlecruiser / Cruiser in the game has is that little 'ol Lt SCI/Intel Hybrid Seat, which you can slot with Override Subsystem Safeties 1 & 2 for surging your firepower. Very quick, down and dirty example:
    LtCdr TAC TacTm1 / BFAW2 / APB2
    Lt ENG EPTW1 / A2Damp1 (Make sure to DOFF it)
    Cmdr ENG EPTS1 / RSP1 / ET3 / DEM3 (or ASIF3 if you like the extra heal)
    Lt SCI/Intel Hybrid OSS1 / OSS2 (Override Subsystem Safeties)
    Lt Universal (SCI) PH1 / HE2 or ST1 / HE2

    The Aehlal is also A2B Bait. Oh my A2B with Intel abilities? Hmm...
    LtCdr TAC TacTm1 / BFAW2 / APO1
    Lt ENG ET1 / A2B1
    Cmdr ENG EPTS1 / A2B1 / EPTW3 / RSP3 (or go EPTS1 / A2B1 / EPTW3 / DEM3 for more offense)
    Lt SCI/Intel Hybrid ST1 / OSS2 (Override Subsystem Safeties)
    Lt Universal (SCI) PH1 / HE2

    Again, the Aehlal is suitable for both DHC or Beamboat builds. But in a Beamboat role, to me, it just flies and fights more smoothly.

    Edit to add: Looking at the Crystal Ball, it is my guess that a Fleet Aehlal would get a +1 TAC Console as part of its upgrade. I think it's a safe bet considering how Cryptic has gone about their justifications for the extra consoles of late. The standard Aehlal will get the +1 TAC since:
    - As a "Cruiser" it already has the 5 ENG Consoles.
    - It does not have a large SCI BOFF seating as a possibility. No LtCdr SCI. The Aehlal is simply not a rounded ship like the Fed Guardian Cruiser.
    - The Aehlal *does* have a healthy TAC BOFF seating with a fixed LtCdr TAC station.
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  • adzcriz1adzcriz1 Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I find the Faeht very good,

    Its like the Tvaro on steroids, Helishly agile and fast and hits REALLY hard but it does have a few downsides, armour is something oher ships have, 28k hull only, so you learn pretty fast to stay at full throttle, and i would avoid wanton AOE spam especially in elites and Advances lest you get too much attention and are promptly 1 shot by the borg I WIN button.

    Its also not really a consistant dps ship, but rather dive in and unload and spike a target, making full use of the battle cloak and buffs, she is a quick, sneaky and painful little ship,

    Im not much of a PVP'er but i gather shes a little git in pvp aswel, assuming you arnt focus targetted.
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  • dpsloss88dpsloss88 Member Posts: 765 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Start with the Faeht. Scimitar doesn't have any traits...
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