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perfectshipsperfectships Member Posts: 118 Arc User
Has anybody noticed that their Intel ships' weapon power levels are dropping to way lower levels than on their other ships? I've noticed this particularly on my Eclipse, but I'm wondering if this applies more generally too.

I've always taken my weapon power level seriously, as a primarily broadside Cruiser captain; and on most Cruisers, as I continuously fire, my weap power is mostly at 125, dropping a bit to 115 in a long salvo, and very very rarely bottoming out for a split-second at 95 (usually when I've neglected to hit EPtW for a while, in the excitement).

[If I forget to hit WSE (or it just didn't go off), it briefly drops to ~83 rather than the 95, in the rare circumstances mentioned just above.]

That's what I'm used to.

I'm noticing that my Eclipse routinely has her weap power drop to ~86, and rarely even ~75:eek:, particularly in her longer SS salvos against a single target, even though I've got WSE engaged and am using pretty much the same set up (re power) as with all my other ships, and hitting the OSS x 2 and EPtW x 2 buttons the moment that they're available. If anything, her weap power bottom-out should be higher given her +10 weaps (rather than usual +5) and the +3 all I get from the Flow Caps, Pla, +Thr Embassy Console (coupled with the usual Leech) that she uses, that most of my Cruisers don't. And the power drain is also starting from a higher point (~164 with OSS II) too.

I've also noticed that while the tiny icon for WSE is there on my buffs bar, the white line around the button, to show that this is the Cruiser Command that is currently activated, seems to vanish most of the time. Though I haven't tested this properly yet, it's felt that periodically deselecting WSE then reactivating it helps to keep the weap power levels at a bit more the usual Cruiser ones I'm used to - but I wouldn't swear to that yet....

I don't think that OSS is the problem, since my Guardian (with OSS x 2) has my usual Cruiser power drain characteristics/numbers, so I'm wondering if it's SS?

Does SS deactivate WSE (despite the tiny icon still being present)? Or/And does SS, or some other mechanic unique to Eclipses/Intel ships draw more deeply on your weapon power than usual fire or FaW with other Cruisers does?
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    perfectshipsperfectships Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    For anybody who may be interested at some point, re their own Intel ships and a possible bug; I did a lot of testing and my Eclipse is defo bottoming out her weapon power ~10-20 lower than all of my other Cruisers.

    If anybody wants to test their Intel ships and throw some more data into the pot, please don't be shy.:) My current suspicion is that SS does not recognise regular overcap (as opposed to OSS overcap), so it drops the starting power level by 10-20 (to what it says on the dial) as it commences firing, which then continues all the way to being 10-20 lower at the bottom end than it should be.

    I'm wondering if it's a similar mechanic to the one that BO used to use, where the -50 power drain was subtracted from what your dial's power read as, with any overcap effectively wiped?
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    ehrlehnehrlehn Member Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I havent noticed any weapon power issues (eng here) but on my eclipse i cant seem to keep shields up to save my life, and im running elite fleet resilient resb adapt with superior shield repair and nanoprobe traits, and shield facing augmentation specialization just to try and keep them up. On my fleet avenger running the same content (argala advanced), no problem.

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    warpetwarpet Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    on my benthan asualt ship power lvls drops more then on jhd at least i think so
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    darkjeffdarkjeff Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    FAW increases the amount of attacks. SS decreases the amount of attacks.

    Therefore, if Leech applies per-hit, then we get less stacks when using SS than when using FAW. In fact, we'd get less stacks than just shooting normally. Hence, lower power.
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    perfectshipsperfectships Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    darkjeff wrote: »
    FAW increases the amount of attacks. SS decreases the amount of attacks.

    Therefore, if Leech applies per-hit, then we get less stacks when using SS than when using FAW. In fact, we'd get less stacks than just shooting normally. Hence, lower power.

    Awesome answer, cheers! I'll test this out later... since I think that it's still applying now that I'm using FaW more than SS - but I wouldn't swear to it, so I'll test properly (just use FaW for a few runs). Thanks again.
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    kitsune1977kitsune1977 Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Wepon power sitting at 125 on both my Intel Phantom Escort and on my Undine Nicor. Nicor with more weapons being used doesn't drop as much as the Intel. I have it drop to about 95 on my Nicor but sometimes even hit 75 on my intel. I think they are bugged a little on this part.
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