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turks1turks1 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
Cryptic - isn't it about time that you offer the ability to upgrade all ships to Tier 6 Upgrade? You want to make some money and bring some folks back to the game? In my opinion, that would be one way.

One of the great things about this game (in my opinion) is all the diversity in ships that I see when flying through the sector blocks. I can almost imagine that this is how it might really be...many many different Federation ships, Romulan ships, Klingon ships, and even occasional other ships, like Breen, Tholian, Undine, etc... I mean, not ever undine is evil right? Wasn't there an episode in Voyager where Chakotay made friends with some Undine on a space station? Could be similar for other races. Anyway, I digress... Cryptic, keep that diversity!

Add in the ability to purchase or the ability craft materials to bring our existing ships up to Tier 6. Not Tier 5 with an extra console slot but missing Bridge Officer slots/powers.

Someone might ask, well what about the sales of our current Tier 6? Look, there has to be other people out there like me that are just waiting till the Fleet Tier 6 versions launch. I want to fly the best possible ship, I'm not wasting my time in Sub-par Tier 6 or even Tier 5U (as it stands now). I'm watching the price of Zen fall daily on the exchange...then when it's back to 130ish, cash out. You want to get me to open my wallet early? Make us more ships... Your devs are currently busy on other tasks? Then let us upgrade existing ship designs to Tier 6. It's likely less time involved on your part then making all new ships from scratch. I mean heck, you only released like 8 new ships for he expansion (I think).

Finally, what's to keep players from just staying in their old ships? Nothing you can do will change that. Some people just love their old ships. Want to make a buck off them, upgrade the capabilities on that old ship.

This is just an opinion on my part, but I welcome any feedback, positive or negative to the idea.
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  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Great, so in your opinion it's not enough that they double-dipped us for T5-U, you want them to dip into our pockets again for T6?
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  • ummaxummax Member Posts: 529 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    actually I think he is asking for lower tier ships to be upgradable and I would go for this I have certain ships I love but they are now obsolete. I would like the option to upgrade them one is a collectors edition of the original enterprise but.. its useless it would be cool if i could upgrade that to be relevant to top tier content.
  • turks1turks1 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    js26568 wrote: »
    Great, so in your opinion it's not enough that they double-dipped us for T5-U, you want them to dip into our pockets again for T6?

    I don't want to be double dipped either, but I honestly think there is no way Cryptic does some kind of Free upgrade to full Tier 6. The alternative is never flying your Dyson Ship (for example) again because when Tier 6 Fleet comes out it will ABSOLUTELY be obsolete.
    I'm a lover not a fighter. But I'm also a fighter so don't get any ideas...
  • nightshrieknightshriek Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Lol indeed. I have a question though. They did maintainence today and they tweeted that the servers where back up but it won't let me log in. HELP!
  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    js26568 wrote: »
    Great, so in your opinion it's not enough that they double-dipped us for T5-U, you want them to dip into our pockets again for T6?

    It would actually be quadruple-dipping in the case of people such as myself who bought the standard version of a ship, then bought the fleet version when it was available, and then took that ship to T5U.

    You want me to pay to upgrade my Excelsior again?
  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I hate to burst the bubble of everyone who forked out for a Tier 6 ship, but... what's the polite way of saying this... is the difference actually worth the $30 per ship?

    I've not seen an obvious, enormous performance boost from people in their new shiny ships. Is the extra trait/intel boff (that you can't really use to its full potential until you get lots of specialization points) really worth it? Really?
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I vote against this. Sorry.

    Specific ships, ones that maybe serve a purpose I would support, but I don't think there is any need for all ships to get T6 treatment.
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  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    Specific ships, ones that maybe serve a purpose I would support, but I don't think there is any need for all ships to get T6 treatment.

    Odyssey, Bortasqu' and Scimitar IMHO. No others.
  • pulserazorpulserazor Member Posts: 590 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    It would be nice to see all t5 ships get some kind of ship specific t6 skill, but I wouldnt necessarily advocate them to be fitted with intel slots.

    Having unique ship traits for t5 ships would likely increase sales of these ships, and lockbox keys for ship gambling, but I wouldnt count on Cryptic being smart enough to suggest that to PerfectWorldEntertainment.

    the sooner PWE repaces Cryptic, the better.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    Odyssey, Bortasqu' and Scimitar IMHO. No others.

    Why should those get it and not other t5 ships?
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    Odyssey, Bortasqu' and Scimitar IMHO. No others.
    Add the Vesta and Kumari to your list, and we have a deal.
    decronia wrote: »
    Why should those get it and not other t5 ships?
    His reasons? Likely because they're the faction specific flagships, and thus should be the best of the best. My reasons, because they're tri-pack ships, and should be made the most of.
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  • variant37variant37 Member Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    His reasons? Likely because they're the faction specific flagships, and thus should be the best of the best.

    That is exactly correct.
  • genesisdvsngenesisdvsn Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    Odyssey, Bortasqu' and Scimitar IMHO. No others.

    All T5 Cstore ships and Fleet ships i reckon, but that's just my opinion.
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  • cannydogcannydog Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Personally, after trying the T6 ships, I like the "Intelligence" abilities... But I still absolutely HATE the way they look!! Well except for the Dauntless and Expedition Cruiser. The others all look freaking "Goofy". Seriously! How many decks does that Klingon Cruiser have ...2? Same thing for the Starfleet Cruiser, though its a little better.

    So the bottom line for me is that I will not be using the T6 ships from the Zen Store. And I feel like I've been Ripped Off!
  • turks1turks1 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    It would actually be quadruple-dipping in the case of people such as myself who bought the standard version of a ship, then bought the fleet version when it was available, and then took that ship to T5U.

    You want me to pay to upgrade my Excelsior again?

    I was only encouraging Cryptic to consider this idea. They won't do it without making a profit. Think of them as ferengi. I don't want to see you pay anything again, but I'd also like to see the diversity of the ships remain in the game. Once Tier 6 Fleet come out, with the extra console slot (11 in total) AND the increased Boff seating, all the current Tier 5U and Tier 6 WILL be Obsolete. It's up to you to decide if you're ok with yesterday's ship.
    I'm a lover not a fighter. But I'm also a fighter so don't get any ideas...
  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    turks1 wrote: »
    Cryptic - isn't it about time that you offer the ability to upgrade all ships to Tier 6 Upgrade? You want to make some money and bring some folks back to the game? In my opinion, that would be one way.

    Nah 500 quatloos, they're just gonna "re-sell" everything T5, as T6 some day ... for 3000+ Zen ... maybe adding some T5+T6 Console Bundle if we're very "lucky" ...
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    variant37 wrote: »
    You want me to pay to upgrade my Excelsior again?
    For a reduced fee, yes. You're grinding and spending for new gear, why not a new or upgraded ship?

    It's what, 700zen for an upgrade token (500zen if you split an upgrade pack four ways). A T6 ship costs 3000zen. I would say a further 250-500zen for a full T6 upgrade if you've already upgraded to T5U.

    Again though, not all ships are needing (nor will they ever get) T6 status. The T6 ships should be limited; that's the whole point of them, and to have their Intel Boff slots. If all (or any) existing ships got the T6 treatment, would they come with, or without Intel Boff slots? If they come with, then fine, but they'd still be limited. If they came without, then quite frankly, what's the point?

    Some ships come with a Lt.Cmd ENG, some come with a Cmd SCI, and some now come with INTEL. I am fully expecting more Intel Ships (cause some of them are going to need INTEL boffs at CMD level; ships with 2x CMD slots aren't too unlikely either, though their other boffs would likely consist of Lieutenants and Ensigns.
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  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Id pay good money to upgrade my Wells Class into a T6 masterpiece.
    I'd also pay good money to get a T6 Fleet Wells Class.
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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    js26568 wrote: »
    I hate to burst the bubble of everyone who forked out for a Tier 6 ship, but... what's the polite way of saying this... is the difference actually worth the $30 per ship?

    I've not seen an obvious, enormous performance boost from people in their new shiny ships. Is the extra trait/intel boff (that you can't really use to its full potential until you get lots of specialization points) really worth it? Really?

    i bought the only 2 ships they wanted to sell to me. i leveled them up got the trait and then went back to my old ship that had a t5fu . really so many seem to be praising the new raptor but other tha the trait which is nice if you dont use hy torp ( because now if i HY and enemy it blows it out of effective cannon range for max damage to me its sucks) but the beam overload buff is nice.

    really though a 5/2 with standard cloak just isnt something that i was thrilled with.

    then the new battle cruiser for the warrior race of the game to have 3 tactical consoles LOL yeah ok not a fan of it either or its pancake hull. maybe it will become a decent ship with the fleet version can only hope i guess.
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  • hyefatherhyefather Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Could you imagine the Grind if Cryptic did give us the option to upgrade all our ships to Tier 6. That would mean they would get a special mastery Tier 5 trait. It would be awesome IMO. Each ship according to its origin could have a cool Mastery Level 5 trait. I call it NOW!!! The JHAS Mastery 5 trait is KamaKazi. Auto activates at 5% health, doing ramming speed 3 at 200% damage. (Could give it a 100% chance to hit but that would be OP)
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