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Our chance for Peace ***SPOILER ALERT***

massflyermassflyer Member Posts: 32 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Federation Discussion
Ok in the cut scene at the end why is there another Harry in the Vaadwar cylinder and which harry is the real one? The one in the cylender is wearing vintage voyager uniform from ensign Kim, and we are leaving with Capt Kim of the Rhode Island, SO who is the real, one?



Shocked and confused here....
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  • oneofexploitoneofexploit Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    No idea. I just kept clicking or hitting ESC to bypass this garbage story so I could get it off my episode list.

    Just did the stories to get it out of the way so I wouldn't have to spend another second in the Delta Quardant.
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    OP - watch the Voyager Episode concerning the creation of said Ensign Kim.
  • massflyermassflyer Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The Kobali episode? Maybe I left before something important huh?
  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    massflyer wrote: »
    Ok in the cut scene at the end why is there another Harry in the Vaadwar cylinder and which harry is the real one? The one in the cylender is wearing vintage voyager uniform from ensign Kim, and we are leaving with Capt Kim of the Rhode Island, SO who is the real, one?



    Shocked and confused here....

    Both are real; the dead one you see in the pod is the Harry Kim who died during the episode "Deadlock", which saw Voyager and all its crew duplicated.
    U.S.S. Endeavour NCC-71895 - Nebula-class
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  • massflyermassflyer Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ok, where janeway from the ship being attacked by Vidians sent her harry and the baby over to the damaged voyager because their Harry died. Got it.

    Thanks
  • hartzillahartzilla Member Posts: 1,177 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    amosov78 wrote: »
    Both are real; the dead one you see in the pod is the Harry Kim who died during the episode "Deadlock", which saw Voyager and all its crew duplicated.

    And surprisingly other Kim looks good for a guy who got blown out into space.
  • chrishellmax2363chrishellmax2363 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    i swear im blind. i played that mission twice and all i saw was a small strange round device.
    Whether you think you are right or wrong, either way you are RIGHT.
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    hartzilla wrote: »
    And surprisingly other Kim looks good for a guy who got blown out into space.

    Things don't really decay in the vaccum of space. There is no oxygen for it to react to, there is no flowing water, nor wind. The only thing to cause a reaction might be solar radiation, but again, there has to be something to react with. With no chemical reactions, no life can exist. It is part of the reason why in History Channel's "Life After People" and NATGEO's "Aftermath: Population 0" original specials ended by pointing out that the American flags and Lunar Lander's legs on the moon would still be around a million years after humanity is gone.
  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    davidwford wrote: »
    Things don't really decay in the vaccum of space. There is no oxygen for it to react to, there is no flowing water, nor wind. The only thing to cause a reaction might be solar radiation, but again, there has to be something to react with. With no chemical reactions, no life can exist. It is part of the reason why in History Channel's "Life After People" and NATGEO's "Aftermath: Population 0" original specials ended by pointing out that the American flags and Lunar Lander's legs on the moon would still be around a million years after humanity is gone.

    Things don't decay there, but there will still be damage to the corpse from the explosive decompression. Things like all the little capillaries will burst open all over the body due to the sudden decompression. There's a lot more things on that list, but I can't think of them right now. Too early and I haven't had my morning coffee yet.
    But anyway, there's a reason they call it "explosive decompression". :P
    I need a beer.

  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    captainoblivous wrote: »
    Things don't decay there, but there will still be damage to the corpse from the explosive decompression. Things like all the little capillaries will burst open all over the body due to the sudden decompression. There's a lot more things on that list, but I can't think of them right now. Too early and I haven't had my morning coffee yet.
    But anyway, there's a reason they call it "explosive decompression". :P

    I will concede the capillaries as the blood in them will likely flash boil in space. Usually the "explosive" part of decompression comes from the fact that one's lungs are full of air that violently escapes. It is a similar situation when one rises quickly from a high pressure environment, typically diving, to a low(er) pressure environment. You have to exhale.
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