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Cruisers for Tac Captains

whiteshoreswhiteshores Member Posts: 46 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Federation Discussion
Hi all,

Just looking for a general opinion on which modern cruisers are good for tactical captains. I prefer larger ships, and as a Fed, there's something a little more iconic feeling about Federation ships. However, I'd be quite open to any lockbox ship suggestions, too. I'm flying a Benthan presently, and I wasn't so much feeling the Guardian, so those are our only guidelines. :)

I've been kinda giving thought to trying a Tal Shiar Adapted Cruiser or a Tactical Odyssey.

Thanks for your opinions!
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  • mondoidmondoid Member Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The Avenger, Excelsior, Eclipse or Assault Cruiser all have a LT CMDR tac slot and are beefy enough for your needs.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Generally speaking, that just means something with LtCmdr Tac. The rest is little details.

    The new-kid T6s are top of course (particularly once the fleet versions come out). The Eclipse is faster and has cloak, the Guardian is more classically Federation and has better science-support abilities.

    T5 you get the Excelsior for speed and truly-retro styling (plus its cheaper and only needs a T3 starbase to go Fleet), Avenger for 5 fore weapons, or the Regent for the wide-angle torpedo and classic Sovereign look.

    Lastly you get the Galaxy-X and the Odyssey Tactical. Both can work really well and put out significant offense, but are slower and run into some seating issues. The Galaxy-X gets the hangar and potential for Saucer Separation, and does have 3 tac boff stations available, but has only 2 cruiser commands and can't mount APO. The Odyssey has all commands and comes fleet grade right out of the box, but either it copies the Gal-X boff setup and runs into the same problems, or else uses the LtCmdr as tac and starts coming up sort in Engineering instead (which can be fixed by 100 million EC in doffs, but thats certainly not cheap). On the plus side though, because of the heavier engineering, the Gal-X and Odyssey are tanky as hell.

    Honestly from what you say about your tastes in 'iconicness,' you might actually want to just pick based on what ship you want to spend your play time looking at, then build from there. All are good ships if flown correctly.
  • mondoidmondoid Member Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The Guardian is more for a engineer with a focus on support.
  • redz4twredz4tw Member Posts: 3
    edited October 2014
    Fleet Assault Cruiser and the fleet excelsior are the best imo. Fleet eclipse will be later.
  • whiteshoreswhiteshores Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Honestly from what you say about your tastes in 'iconicness,' you might actually want to just pick based on what ship you want to spend your play time looking at, then build from there. All are good ships if flown correctly.

    If I were to be honest with you, based upon looks alone, I'd go with the Tal Shiar Adapted Cruiser. I just think it's a big, wicked looking thing. However, I've read that it's more science oriented in truth, so I've been unsure about investing in it.

    Second pick would probably be the Tac Odyssey.

    The Benthan is actually a very tough ship, from my experiences so far, as is the Narcine I have (though it lacks even the advanced frigates, much less the elite). I just don't like the style, and for some players, I guess there's something to be said for what you're looking at when you fly.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    mondoid wrote: »
    The Guardian is more for a engineer with a focus on support.

    I don't see how people can say that about the Guardian.

    It is loaded with the following BOFF slots:

    Fixed LtCdr TAC
    Fixed LtCdr SCI
    Fixed Cmdr ENG
    Fixed Lt ENG
    Universal Ensign

    Very balanced cruiser console layout. Capable of doing anything you can ask a cruiser to do. Don't be fooled by the 6.5 turn rate either. I can get this thing humming along, turning rather nicely, even taking advantage of Hyper-Impulse Engines with her.

    In short, the Guardian can do anything you can ask of her. Including performing good, proper attacks.
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  • whiteshoreswhiteshores Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There seems to be a lot of disagreement here concerning my original question. Maybe I'll try to thin it down to those ships I mentioned I like for appearance:

    1. Tal Shiar Adapted Cruiser

    2. Tactical Odyssey

    Where do these stand for you as a Tac flying a cruiser?
  • whiteshoreswhiteshores Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I should probably mention that the winning cruiser will, if possible, receive a T5U upgrade. That might impact your opinion on which choice is best, as well! :)
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    If it's between those two ships, I'd go with the Tal Shiar cruiser. The commander universal means you can put a tac in there and it comes with a free T5U upgrade since it's a lockbox ship.
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  • whiteshoreswhiteshores Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    lan451 wrote: »
    If it's between those two ships, I'd go with the Tal Shiar cruiser. The commander universal means you can put a tac in there and it comes with a free T5U upgrade since it's a lockbox ship.

    If you think it'd work well as a Tac cruiser, then we've got a winner. Thanks for your advice. :)
  • jer5488jer5488 Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There seems to be a lot of disagreement here concerning my original question. Maybe I'll try to thin it down to those ships I mentioned I like for appearance:

    1. Tal Shiar Adapted Cruiser

    2. Tactical Odyssey

    Where do these stand for you as a Tac flying a cruiser?

    I can't give you an opinion on the Tal Shiar - I don't have it. The Tac Odyssey - especially with the T5U upgrade - is a very powerful ship very well balanced for a tac captain. 4 eng consoles, 3 sci, 4 tac. A ltcom uni will let you slot a pretty powerful tac officer. She has a very beefy hull and there are some very interesting builds for her.

    I would honestly say a T5U Tac Ody with saucer sep is one of if not the best tac cruisers in the game atm.
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