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mattjohnsonva
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It's high time is it not?
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everything that cost dil is based on the fact the only so much dil can be in the system at once as defined by the current dil limit. and they just added a new sink cause there was too much in the system. asking for a increase is kinda like asking to get kicked in the face when you have a toothache, seems like a good idea at the time but in hindsight it is a very bad one.
and really can we get this topic banned already.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
12 is a much nicer number than 8, since you can device it by 2, 3, 4 and 6.
And no thanks to that btw.
welcome to mmos. things are time gated ether by hard limits or just keeping rewards low. would you prefer they nerfed everything so no matter how much you did you'd never get more then 8k dil a day? hell last time they said anything the avg was 4k dil a day with the 8k limit. most people complain about cost aren't complain cause it high it's because they can do it RIGHT NOW. this is not a single player game you beat in two days and never touch again, things are supposed to take time.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
end of story. it doesn't need to go up.
no I just don't want to have to grind even more because of someone else's impatience... if I gonna have to do more work I want it to be my fault.
the cost was raised for a reason. and it's not nearly as large as people think crafting requires little in less your a dedicated crafter... nothing if you don't want the bound stuff. upgrade cost fairly evenly but if you don't have all rep/fleet gear you can put off. and in less you really want to do elites you don't need mk 14 much less epic mk 14s. though skill may vary so I guess some may need 14s after all. but if you not going for gold or trying to min/max the hell out of your build it's still alot cheaper think people think. maybe not cheap but what end game gear is.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
I'ld be a smart *** about this but I'm still in shock people thought they weren't going to "fix" that...
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Don't forget everytime Cryptic gives us what we want, they do it the worst way, change things we liked, didn't needed changed and after that will stab us in the back with lies and mis-information.
What is wrong is:
You want more refined dilithium. Why do you want that? Because stuff is expensive, I suppose, and you want to have it.
But who set the daily refinement limit? Who set the Dilithium cost?
They are both decided by Crytpic. Changing the refinement limit is almost the same as convincing Cryptic that stuff is too expensive. You could just ask for cheaper stuff.
But I say almost, because it's not exactly the same. Most days I play (and I play most days), I do not get to the dilithium refinement limit. I just don't play that long and that "dilithium-minded".
A higher limit doesn't help me, or all the other players that do not reach the refinement limit. It only helps those that already play and grind a lot.
Another aspect - if there is more dilithium in the game, Zen will become worth more dilithium. So if you actually grind dilithium to buy more zen, you won't be able to, because people will be able to demand higher prices due to higher dilithium supplies.
In this case, I might actually benefit - I could sell my Zen for more Dilithium. Unless Cryptic decides that it needs to rise dilithium cost of gear and upgrades because there is so much Dilithium available.
And then, of course, would be the fallout for all the people who don't regularly hit the 8k cap, let alone go 4k over it. Not everyone is sitting on extra reserves of unrefined dil.
I was going to bring up something similar.
Increasing the dil cap is the American Government Economic Solution. Let's not do that.
I'd rather they lower the static dilithium costs by 20% across the board.
That comparison lacks a bit, as it would only apply to the Dil-Zen exchange where prices are variable.
Fixed projects like dilithium costs for crafting, fleet stores, reputation, fleet projects, etc... are fixed and determined by Cryptic. It's their decision weather to raise or lower those prices and not that of the market.
So raising the Dilithium cap to 12.000 would cause inflation on the Dilithium exchange, but would increase buying power for ingame "products".
Overall I doubt it would have any signifigant impact. Pretty much everyone I know who keeps hitting the refinement cap regularely is already invested in refinement/doffing alts anyways and circumvent it that way.
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It's high time 'dilithium refine limit' threads went strait to the Frequently Created Threads wheelie bin.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
This analogy sucks. Like, completely.
STO isn't a globalised free market economy running on a fiat currency that is worth only as much as supply, demand, and literally what people think it should worth, says it is worth.
Printing 'money', or in this case the currency system of dilithium, gives you more money in STO. The price of goods doesn't change. Ever. Those hanger pets cost 30000 now, and they cost 30000 after you print out a load of money, because Cryptic are setting the prices. Inflation doesn't exist. The value of dilithium only changes when Cryptic decides it should change, and those hanger pets become more or less expensive per dilithium at their whim.
Until Cryptic choose to change the price of the goods that require dilithium to buy, 'printing' more dilithium in STO would actually give you more money. The buying power of a single unit dilithium simply never changes. Having more is having more, completely and totally regardless of how you got it.
The only thing that has 'inflation' is the interaction between dilithium and Zen, except in that case the completely artificial supply limit of a single commodity, dilithium, results in the same equilibrium we have now, where your actual supply of dilithium is worth the same amount of Zen, even if technically the dilithium is worth less per unit.
TL: DR - STO is not a dynamic global economy. Having more dilithium means having more dilithium, and it doesn't matter how you got it. Literally the only concern in terms of limiting dilithium supply is for Cryptic alone, and that concern is absolutely nothing more than time gating so you will continue to play. If you continue to play, there is a chance you will buy the **** that costs real money.
You said it yourself. Cryptic controls the prices.
Do you really think that if they increase the refining limit there won't be an across-the-board price increase on all dil products to match? They want you spending zen to buy dil, not patiently refining every day until you get what you need.
Yeah. That would be me.
I've got many problems in this game, but being held back by the refining cap ain't one.
Just NO! They should reduce it to 5k cos of the mining claims.
Raising the dilithium cap would be good for those that buy Zen, in the short term. As prices go up and dil gets nerfed, my grinding becomes less and less worth my time. I'd probably stop playing on a day to day basis if that happened, as I'd bet others would. Without F2Pers grinding out your dilithium, you'd be back in the same boat.
In other words, **** no.
your waisting your typing fingers, you can try explaining the drawbacks of a higher limit till your blue in the keyboard but the grinders still wont get it.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Yeah, yeah, I know, but hope springs eternal, and all that.
DO NOT WANT. I have no idea how anyone that wants this to remain a F2P game would even THINK that this is a good idea.
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But it's only a higher standard for living for people that already reach the cap all the time.
There are people that do not. I know, because I am one of htem. And I play daily.
I would prefer if you'd say that stuff should just cost less. Then at least I may benefit.