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Attack Pattern Expertise I & II Disapointment

leethorogoodleethorogood Member Posts: 302 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Builds, Powers, and Game Mechanics
I was just wondering if anyone else was disappointed that the Pilot Specialisation powers Attack Pattern Expertise I & II don't work with Attack Pattern Alpha! They only work with bridge officer Attack Pattern abilities (Attack Patterns Beta, Delta & Omega). :(

If any of the Cryptic Devs read this post/thread could you please give me/us some insight into how this decision was arrived at? :cool:
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    With it providing a boost to APA, it would provide a superior boost for one of the three careers, no? In the fashion they addressed it, each career has the same access to the benefits it provides...

    ...was my first thought when folks first started making this particular complaint about APA not being affected by it.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    As if Attack Pattern Alpha needed more help :D

    Just like Zemok DOFF. Thank goodness it does not affect APA.
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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    With it providing a boost to APA, it would provide a superior boost for one of the three careers, no? In the fashion they addressed it, each career has the same access to the benefits it provides...

    this ;)


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  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    With it providing a boost to APA, it would provide a superior boost for one of the three careers, no?

    This is the precise reason it is not triggered by AP:Alpha.
    Jeremy Randall
    Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    With it providing a boost to APA, it would provide a superior boost for one of the three careers, no? In the fashion they addressed it, each career has the same access to the benefits it provides...

    ...was my first thought when folks first started making this particular complaint about APA not being affected by it.

    But! But! But! Tactical needs moar helps!
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Nothing like spending for a buff (2 actually) I can't use- because my T-5U ship doesn't have room to slot an AP.

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  • myrnwynmyrnwyn Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This is the precise reason it is not triggered by AP:Alpha.

    This makes perfect sense but should also be in the power description the way the "weapon buffing skills" boost from the Intel (I think) tree lists the powers that trigger it. The way it's phrased currently is misleading.
  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014
    myrnwyn wrote: »
    This makes perfect sense but should also be in the power description the way the "weapon buffing skills" boost from the Intel (I think) tree lists the powers that trigger it. The way it's phrased currently is misleading.

    It currently says:

    "Attack Pattern Bridge Officer Ability"

    and AP:A is a Captain Ability.

    ... but we'll see about adding an additional qualifier into the description.
    Jeremy Randall
    Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
    "Play smart!"
  • leethorogoodleethorogood Member Posts: 302 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    This is the precise reason it is not triggered by AP:Alpha.
    Thanks for the response Borticus. :)
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    It currently says:

    "Attack Pattern Bridge Officer Ability"

    and AP:A is a Captain Ability.

    ... but we'll see about adding an additional qualifier into the description.

    I am sooooo sorry that you guys have to make things so blatantly obvious for the masses out there. I wonder if you guys laugh about this at times.
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  • rragadonrragadon Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    I am sooooo sorry that you guys have to make things so blatantly obvious for the masses out there. I wonder if you guys laugh about this at times.

    As a software developer, who needs to deal with people much less computer savvy than the average gamer, I can honestly say that while we do laugh about that, it's usually not to cry because any time a problem like this arises, it means more work, and not of the fun kind.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Didn’t have a chance for some thorough testing on it but it were the first few ability points I invested in on one of my toons which cycles 2 attack patterns constantly.

    Even if APA does not trigger it I’m not disappointed at all.

    Think more chars will get that one!
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  • tedgrodzkitedgrodzki Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Disappointed?

    Well considering this specialization is supposed to add temp hit-points on use of a BOFF attack pattern and does not?
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  • tgo533tgo533 Member Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Anyone running dual APB or APO like me love it. I think that one thing saves my defiant more than anything else.
  • isvarnaisvarna Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    deokkent wrote: »
    It's better to always assume the people you're servicing are dumbasses. Also be patient, excessively so :).

    In general yes. There are limits to that patience however, and to the extent one should hand-hold your customer base. Oversimplifying, overprotecting and overconveniencing your customer can easily end up making your product too cumbersome to be practical if you aren't careful in how you go about it.
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