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sierra078
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I know there's probably a gazillion posts on this subject already but I wanted to put my argument out. With the increasing demand on Dilithium for in-game objects it makes sense to increase or get rid of the 8,000 a day dilithium refinement limit. Everything needs dilithium now, Reputation items/stores, upgrades, fleet projects and many more. I know there more opportunities now than ever to earn UNREFINED dilithium. But unrefined doesn't do anybody any good. If nothing else add a countdown timer to the refinement button. There are timers for every daily mission and battlefront missions as well. So if the devs read this you could at the very least give us a timer that tells us how long we have until we can refine again.
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Increase refine limit: Not going to happen since refined dilithium can be exchanged for zen.
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-The actions of Cryptic, on the other hand......
This is so they have a way to force you to spend money. They want you to buy zen then convert to dil. This method allows you to get as much refined as you want.
-Rule of Acquisition #113: Always have sex with the boss.
-I am one of the many victims from the hijacked Caspian Division.
I will not let the childish acts of a criminal ruin this game for me.
-The actions of Cryptic, on the other hand......
not true either on the get as much as you want, the have a cap on buying it too, it's like $400 which is a lot, but it's still a cap. just an fyi
This is wrong and stupid.
The refinement cap prevents lifeless tryhards from flooding the dilithium market, inflating everything and running the price of zen up uncontrollably. Theoretically, at least - alts can skirt it but that requires maintaining more than one toon. Increasing the cap would hurt the market, and removing it entirely is a stupid idea.
Also, zen doesn't "convert" into dil. Buying zen is not an unlimited way to get dil. Just like someone has to buy the zen to sell it, someone has to grind the dil, and that means that the dil supply can, in theory, be run dry.
Seriously. Without the refinement cap, dil would just be EC again - a worthless joke of a currency that takes too long to gather a meaningful amount of in a timeframe that isn't stupid or doesn't require above-average economic and/or mechanic-abuse savvy.
None of you actually want the refinement cap raised. You just think you do because it's doing its main job - making dil seem like it's worth something.
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If Cryptic ever did that then they would probably eliminate the dilithium to Zen exchange because potentially unlimited Zen could be purchased with unrefined dilithium which has no daily limit. Basically this means that anything in the C-Store can only be purchased with Zen that is purchased with real money.
If they do keep the dilithium to Zen exchange then I suppose we could see exchange rate in excess of 3,000:1. Additionally, the dilithium requirements for projects will skyrocket as well. The dilithium refinement limit acts as a time gate which basically slows down the progression one can obtain high end gear.
People cry out against the time gate because it makes them wait and continue to grind for a long period of time. On the other hand people also complain that after they have done the grind for the gear there is nothing else to do except to replay queued PvE missions. The fact of the matter is that content is consumed much faster than it is created. It may take 6 months (like more) to develop content for an expansion or new season, however, it may only take 6 days or less for someone to burn through all that content.
What i mean is keep the cap but just give me the refined dilithium. when I reach the cap just put the refined dilithium on hold until the next cycle where I can 'withdraw' it so to speak. There is no real reason to get ore, that cannot be used for anything in game, then to refine it into something that can be. The point of the ore is to have a method for supporting the cap. All I'm saying is take away the extra click and just deposit refined dilithium for use right away until I reach the cap, then have me click.
do not worry, the proble is solved... they reduced dilithium rewards from stf!
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With the ability to create moar toons, and get around the refinement cap that way, why isn't that a solution?
Create that Rommie.
Set aside that contempt for the KDF and roll a REAL Tac.
Your refinement just increased to 24k.
Stop trying to wag the targ.
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I have only one toon andi still think this is a bad ideea...
Being this game is structured to farm for months.. (err time controlled) I am in no rush to get things max.
Unless you cats know a neat way to gain dilithium at a efficient level?
One thing I would like to see is no more of this 5 dilith for some Doff missions, maybe they can adjust on time of the doff missions. (Like a 4 hours could net you 10 dil) Heck bring in a crit chance to earn a small % more
Still back on topic, there is the guy at SF than can convert 1K, and I think there is a guy on the Fleet Mine that can convert another 1k yes. (Knowing PWE these are linked on a Cool down) Potentional 10K refining.
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I used to supplement my earnings with Elite STF runs.
Used to.
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Characters would still have an 8k cap but it would be an account cap depending on your alts, not a change to the current system as such just a bit more efficient, this way a character could have access to 16k 24k, 32k a day when it's needed, without feeling like they are cheating the system. Would probably see a few folk buying character slots too.
Having an actual account pool rather than a character pool and say being able to grind out dilithium on my best toon for maximum efficiency, meaning that my alts wouldn't be able to refine more, as it stands I could refine 8k per day multiplied by 8 characters (if I could be bothered) which is 64k refined dilithium per day, pretty sure people do and have done this and nothing drastic has happened to the market for zen, so technically my account cap is 64,000 per day, yet I am forced onto alts to earn it.
The means to refine it are there already yet the character cap is a hindrance to getting it where it is needed. The same cap would exist as it does now, just a bit easier to get a hold of what you have already earned.
You can sell your refined Dil for 100 Dil/Zen.
No one will take that offer.
You log into your other toon then cancel that offer.
It's not a hassle at all.
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Yes I am aware of that, I am pretty sure I said as much at the beginning of the post that you just quoted and compared to having an account cap per number of toons, yes it is a hassle, especially when other toons may be very much slower at grinding the stuff in the first place.
I still don't comprehend what difficulties you're having.
Compiling all your earned Dil, AS IS, into 1 toon is absolutely hassle-free.
It may be the ONLY thing in STO that works flawlessly.
Can you draw a picture in crayon so I can understand the game breaking issue that's crippling your STO fun?
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