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Calling all Vets. 1k vet ships

tonygutierreztonygutierrez Member Posts: 30 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I think the veteran ships should get everything the new t6 ships have and a new t6 material skin. What do all you vets think?
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meh. Cryptic doesn't like doing things for free.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • tonygutierreztonygutierrez Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Yeah but vet accounts was not free...
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    This is the problem with the vet pack.

    It should have "ended" after F2P. Cryptic should have just stopped selling them (but still supported it).

    And every year make a new pack. Refine more dilithium? Sure. Stack it on.

    As a vet, i do not deserve more than was promised to me when I bought it originally. And that was 5 years ago.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,322 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There have been a few hints that a new vet ship is in the works. I'm hoping for a T6 Intel vet ship.
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  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Nope, I disagree.
    You're right. The work here is very important.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    What Vet pack? Am I looking in the wrong spot on the Cstore cuz I don't see a vet pack listed.

    How is it that you're a veteran and you cannot tell who the right Spot is?!
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  • mightybobcncmightybobcnc Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I think that Intel ship material would look pretty nifty on a Chimera but I see no reason why they would get a full upgrade to T6 status.
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  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    tonygutierrez wrote: »
    I think the veteran ships should get everything the new t6 ships have and a new t6 material skin. What do all you vets think?

    Nope, you get what you pay for at the time you pay it. Demanding more is just childish in my opinion.

    chalpen wrote: »
    This is the problem with the vet pack.

    It should have "ended" after F2P. Cryptic should have just stopped selling them (but still supported it).

    And every year make a new pack. Refine more dilithium? Sure. Stack it on.

    As a vet, i do not deserve more than was promised to me when I bought it originally. And that was 5 years ago.

    I'm with you on this. PWE / Cryptic should just put a stop to all this. Either pull the rewards or throw them in to the store for all to buy.
    All this self entitlement bull is really starting to annoy me. We helped get the game off the ground, we gave a massive cash injection when it was needed, that does not entitle us to keep milking it.
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    I know there's vet rewards, and LTS perks but I've never seen a vet pack.

    If you've nothing to add, then why waste time being pedantic?
    You know what the OP and others are on about. If your bored, try a book, go outside, find a romantic partner and go break some bed springs - but don't lower yourself to troll level, you're better than that.
  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    ok you guys calm down !!!!! put your fangs away .....now back on the question the op was asking ........no ...no.........wait for it ..............no
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,884 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I would rather hope the rumors are true and would rather see a 1500-2k vet T6 ship
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  • philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'd be happy if they just fixed the one we have.... :(
    Are we there yet?
  • philosopherephilosophere Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    I thought the problem with it was that it was "fixed", err neutered, err spayed... whatever. :P

    Yes, sadly it can't get its' pylons up anymore! :eek:
    Are we there yet?
  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,788 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    We already know that they are T5. It is old news. However, I recall Smirk mentioned on the live stream the other day about there being some talk going on back Vet stuff but that he could not say anything it.
  • admiralkristovadmiralkristov Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jockey1979 wrote: »
    Nope, you get what you pay for at the time you pay it. Demanding more is just childish in my opinion.

    ...

    If you've nothing to add, then why waste time being pedantic?
    You know what the OP and others are on about. If your bored, try a book, go outside, find a romantic partner and go break some bed springs - but don't lower yourself to troll level, you're better than that.

    So "childish" and "pedantic" are bad, but arrogant is ok?
  • dongemaharudongemaharu Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    That something called a lifetime subscription should remain completely static while the game continues to expand seems silly to me. They don't have to give away the store, but adding a couple of goodies for each expansion, like a T6 ship, or a couple of upgrade tokens and a new skin, or something like that seems reasonable.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    lianthelia wrote: »
    I would rather hope the rumors are true and would rather see a 1500-2k vet T6 ship

    Cryptic will not add any veteran rewards past 1000 days. Any veteran reward past 1000 days is just another Lifetime perk that regular subscribers will likely not obtain. So a Veteran Tier 6 ship will not happen unless the Veteran system is modified.
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  • xenificationxenification Member Posts: 615 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jockey1979 wrote: »
    Nope, you get what you pay for at the time you pay it. Demanding more is just childish in my opinion.

    He didnt demand at all.

    he just said he "thinks" they should. I dont know about you but my definition of demanding is somewhere along the lines of "I payed $200 or more for my vertaran rewards and you must add everything that tier 6 ships offer to my ships".

    thats demanding. He just spoke his mind on the topic.

    and its childish to put words in his mouth.
  • pwstolemynamepwstolemyname Member Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    If anything I would prefer a new set of 1500 day or 2000 day ships to be T6, rather then re-hashing the same tired old models.
  • tonygutierreztonygutierrez Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    starkaos wrote: »
    Cryptic will not add any veteran rewards past 1000 days. Any veteran reward past 1000 days is just another Lifetime perk that regular subscribers will likely not obtain. So a Veteran Tier 6 ship will not happen unless the Veteran system is modified.

    I'm not saying vet ships should be the best in game but should be up to date not left behind .. if there's other ships like the t6 that outdated a vet ship I can't call it a vet ship now can I?
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I think they'll do something else for vets eventually.
  • tonygutierreztonygutierrez Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    I think they'll do something else for vets eventually.

    Something is better then nothing. :)
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Vet package is fine where it stands. The rewards are doled out every 100 days for 1000 days and the ship at the end of the line is freely upgraded to be viable at T6. It's perfectly fine.

    Lifers should get a little more though. Free upgrades for all ships would be my preference but I'd happily settle for a free upgrade token on hitting level 60 with a toon. Sure it's not necessary - Lifers get what they paid for already and that's all we really need - but I feel that adding value to the deal at great junctures like an expansion release is a great way to let current Lifers know our investment is still appreciated and as a means to entice future LTS purchases with timely, relevant bonuses sweetening the deal. They already did this once with the Lib. Borg Romulan playable race. They didn't have to make those since they were never promised in the original deal, but we have them anyway.
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  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    They had no choice but to add the Rom version of existing faction specific LTS perks. To not add them would have been a huge PR disaster.

    Why? Why would that have been a big deal, but getting nothing with Delta Rising no biggie?
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  • tonygutierreztonygutierrez Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »
    Vet package is fine where it stands. The rewards are doled out every 100 days for 1000 days and the ship at the end of the line is freely upgraded to be viable at T6. It's perfectly fine.

    Lifers should get a little more though. Free upgrades for all ships would be my preference but I'd happily settle for a free upgrade token on hitting level 60 with a toon. Sure it's not necessary - Lifers get what they paid for already and that's all we really need - but I feel that adding value to the deal at great junctures like an expansion release is a great way to let current Lifers know our investment is still appreciated and as a means to entice future LTS purchases with timely, relevant bonuses sweetening the deal. They already did this once with the Lib. Borg Romulan playable race. They didn't have to make those since they were never promised in the original deal, but we have them anyway.
    Nicely said. :)
  • imruinedimruined Member Posts: 1,457 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »
    Vet package is fine where it stands. The rewards are doled out every 100 days for 1000 days and the ship at the end of the line is freely upgraded to be viable at T6. It's perfectly fine.

    Lifers should get a little more though. Free upgrades for all ships would be my preference but I'd happily settle for a free upgrade token on hitting level 60 with a toon. Sure it's not necessary - Lifers get what they paid for already and that's all we really need - but I feel that adding value to the deal at great junctures like an expansion release is a great way to let current Lifers know our investment is still appreciated and as a means to entice future LTS purchases with timely, relevant bonuses sweetening the deal. They already did this once with the Lib. Borg Romulan playable race. They didn't have to make those since they were never promised in the original deal, but we have them anyway.

    The LTS has as much to sell it now as it ever did... I find it improbable anyone would have bought the LTS just for instant access to the Veteran Destroyer... People bought it for the entire package...

    The Veteran Destroyer receiving a free T5U upgrade is already additional sweetener to a new LTS buyer, as it means that a new player will not need to worry about getting a T6 ship, or having to spend more money upgrading other ships to T5U...

    Though Smirk did mention the LTS rewards are being looked at and will possibly be spiced up, Cryptic are in all frankness under no obligation to make any additional LTS rewards retroactive...

    Cryptic would be unable to retroactively remove playable Borg (your characters defaulting to a Human, Klingon or Romulan) as this was a condition at the time of sale... Conversely, adding new content does not mean Cryptic are required to retroactively offer this to existing LTS accounts for the same reason - it would definitely be nice and I would not refuse additional bonuses, but I would also not be upset if I did not receive them as I understand I purchased the LTS as it was at the time, not what it is after additional updates...
    jexsamx wrote: »
    Why? Why would that have been a big deal, but getting nothing with Delta Rising no biggie?

    The difference is that Delta Rising does not add any new Veteran rewards to any faction...

    Adding the Romulans, but then failing to cater for them through the Veteran program, would have been quite silly and short-sighted, as they are an entirely new faction...

    Though Cryptic could have possibly gotten around this by Romulans receiving the same rewards as their 'allied' faction, people would have complained that this was selling them short - there was already enough ******** they were not a 'real faction' because they were forced to side with one or the other, this would have only exacerbated this issue...

    It would be the same if, for example, playable Cardassians were added - new Veteran rewards would need to be made available for this new faction also, else certain segments of the community would go into meltdown...
    The entitlement is strong in these forums...

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