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Cryptic giving KDF and Roms the middle finger again
xuel
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Was looking at delta pack and noticed that fed gets 5 t6 ships while kdf and rom only gets 2 each. Way to go Cryptic, go give KDF and Rom's the middle finger like aways.
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Yeah, but I'm tired of looking cool. We need stuff that can do stuff....
Time will only tell!
Common developer practice is you look at who plays what faction and how many people play a certain faction, figure out percentages, and then divide dev time based on those percentages. Basically the faction that gets them the most money, gets the most dev time. That's not just STO but pretty much all games.
Now the catch-22 is you put in less time and give less content to a certain faction, less people want to play it, and you change your numbers even more in favor of certain factions, et al. It's a vicious cycle.
Besides, quite honestly while the Feds do get 5 ships, quite a few of them are meh to what were they thinking type ships. Klingon and Romulans have less ships, but they're much better designed ships.
But when the majority of your players play Fed, you cater to your player base, which in this case means giving more federation ships.
Rom and KDF?
Off to pay for lockbox traits.
yes and no. they developed an entire Klingon 1-50 storyline, and still the Klingons are underplayed. Klingons ships aren't bad once you learn how to play them, and yet people don't want to bother learning how to play them, they just want reskinned fed ships with DHCs.
Cryptic after atari has been steadily boosting up the Klingon faction, slowly though, and yet no one is really playing them.
So it's not all Cryptic's fault, a lot of it lays on the fact that the majority of people who come and play Star Trek, want to play James Kirk, Jean Luc Picard and Kathryn Janeway style characters.
You sure? The majority of the new Fed ships make me want to gouge my own eyes out. Maybe they're really the ones getting the middle finger here.
Why would any fed want to play anything else when they are given everything from the other factions thats any good? Feds got cloak, carriers, raiders now as well, plasmonic leech, assimilators, DHC battle cruisers etc etc etc etc etc.
It took them years to get KDF 1-50, after leaving it behind forever they damaged the odds of the playerbase of it ever being high. Just like if you leave a car at the bottom of a lake for years and pull it up and wash and wax it, it will still stink worse then a Targs TRIBBLE!
The KDF hasnt even managed to get a fleet gurumba since fleet starbases came out, a whole new Tier of ships made it in first! They release next to nothing for KDF, they gave everything the KDF had to the feds, and they wonder why people ignore them.
Yes ST shows were about Feds, well starwars was about Jedi/Republic yet in SwToR Empire side does just fine because its treated equally. Same with horde in WoW. If you treat a faction in an imbalanced manor EXPECT IMBALANCED RESULTS!!!
Atari never started this game. Cryptic got the license after Perpetual screwed up, then required additional money to finish STO which is where Atari came into the picture. Atari bought Cryptic because they thought STO would be more successful than it is.
The KDF was initially introduced as a PvP only faction for something that Starfleet Captains could fight against. They have always seemed to be a last minute addition to the game.
The Federation Ships look like Tron meets Starfox on the N64.
Why should Cryptic put money into a faction that after they put money in to update and make it better people still pretty much shunned it?
Cryptic's biggest mistake was making Klingons a gated entry faction in the very first place. Since then they have updated them, given them new ships, given them all kinds of stuff, and people just don't play them.
You ask why people would play Klingon? Why wouldn't they if they wanted to? Cryptic is simply giving the majority of their players, who couldn't give two tribbles about the Klingons or PvP, items they've created and are being seriously under used and under played. It's a simple mathematics thing of, we designed it, most people don't play it, we'll give them to people who will play them and I won't have to develop anything new.
Cryptic's done some serious issues with the Klingon and evern Romulan faction, I can't and won't deny that. Hell I've pointed out those issues. But you can't blame them for putting the majority of their dev time during a major update into the one faction that brings them the most money.
Put on the brakes there smokey...
You mention that Star Wars is mostly about Jedi/Republic. BUT you forgot about the main villians...Darth Vader, Boba Fett, and Darth Maul. Vader who force chokes an imperial officer that talks back to him. Boba Fett who has like negative five spoken words in the movies he is in and yet has a cult following. And Darth Maul who takes on two frickin Jedi with a double frickin bladed frickin lightsaber. Compare that to the heroes...about the only cool heroes they had were Han, Leia when she had a blaster in her hands and Obi Wan McGregor when he snapped after Qui Gon Snooze got stabbed.
They arent just 'treated equally' the get treated equally because the empire has an appeal to it from the main IP movies or from previous games. Everybody wanted to be Revan, Fett or Maul. A month or so ago i went on an Amazon Prime TNG binge and i watched a bunch of episodes and i came upon the one where Picard was arbiter for bug eyes Gowron and Worf put on the Klingon Uniform. No offense to you guys that are into KDF or the whole Klingon culture but i just found those TNG episodes to be really boring. Honor honor infighting backstab backstab suddenly romulans honor qapla qapla qapla.
No, people wanted to play something that was completed, and easier. Villains came along unfinished, and with a varied (more challenging) gameplay style.
Why choose to play a harder, half-baked, unfinished faction? And Cryptic likes making a "default" faction, and seems to try hard to dissuade everyone from leaving it.
It makes no sense, because there's potentially money to be made. More options>less options. Always.
a single 'old' BOP took out a Federation Galaxy Class starship.
a rusty blade makes a nasty wound.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
Aside from coming out with content that went to only level 40 which was fixed in the next issue, City of Villains was a far smoother game than City of Heroes was. The whole contact system was much smoother compared to City of Heroes, some of the contacts were far more memorable, it didn't have the Positron Task Force, and it had the Mastermind class.
No the thing is there is no guarentee that it'll make money. Remember to make all the TRIBBLE for the Klingon side you're talking about they need to spend money. If they don't make their money back on it, they can actually lose money.
And the klingon faction is relatively small, and even smaller if you take away all the "alts". You have to look at player base and play time in hours, and everything we've been told leads us to that more people play Federation then Klingon/Romulan by a large amount.
As to "people want to play a finished faction" this is true, but the Klingons have been finished for some time now, and people still aren't playing it. They went, did the new content, said thanks to Cryptic, and went back to their Feds.
Nothing wrong with wanting more Klingon content and more Klingon ships. But wanting it in greater proportion then what the numbers lead us to believe during a major update when the dev team is already spread thin is simply entitlement gone wrong.
Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
1. Only could go to level 40
2. No ancillary power pools
3. Domination needed to be reworked
4. Stalkers needed to be reworked
5. Masterminds nerfed
6. Brute Fury never worked in PVP zones
7. Largely PVP-unfriendly faction added...with PVP zones?
...off the top of my head.
This forum reminds me so much of the COH forum, with the same things being said. Only the word "Villains" is replaced with "Klingons."
Same could be said for any content. Delta Rising included.
There are reasons for this other than "People don't like it." Most incentive is to NOT play that content. If there is more to do in one area, and 80% less to do in another, logic dictates that 20% will be utilizing the 20% content.
I'll point you to the lack of both ships and ship customization. Also, the fact that the entire storyline is Federation-based, and some of it makes no sense if you're using a non-Federation character.
It's not just that. Not only is there way more stuff default-side, but a lot of the Faction specific content is being taken from the underplayed content and moved there...which further keeps people from having a reason to play anything else.
I think the only "entitlement" comes from anyone playing only one side, and complaining there isn't enough content- because they're just skipping a bunch of it on purpose.
Um... show me what level 50 content is only Federation. That kind of kills your 20%/80% right there. Every faction has the exact same level 50 content.
Lets be honest half the Klingon and Romulan ships are better then the majority of the Federation ships in existance kind of ruins your whole "lack of ships" concept. Klingons and Romulans sure have less ships, but generally their ships are better. The only area they're really weak on is Science, where you can fill that gap with lockbox and lobi ships.
As to your "Federation specific" no it's alliance specific. If you want to see it as "Federation" that's your perogative, but since there is no Federation, Romulan, or Klingon specific content post-50. In fact there's not real specific content after you hit DS9. There's some here and there but mostly it's the exact same content with just different pictures on your text box telling you the same thing in a different manner.
As to the faction specific stuff, what stuff? Consoles? Really, that's your big complaint is as a klingon I can't use my OP consoles anymore to steam role the Feds, I have to "gasp" learn to counter and play? Really? That's your big concern in factin specific stuff. Because I can't think of anything else that's been introduced as faction specific that as been given to the other sides, and which by the way the Federation consoles have been given as well, crappy as they may be.
So basically it sounds a aweful lot like entitlement to me. No one is getting factin specific anything any more, everyone is trading their consoles, so it's not just Klingon, and a desire for more faction specific content for a underplayed faction, when no one else is getting faction specific content.
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