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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    First of all, this discussion forum is for STO, not other games.

    I have moderated some posts which violate forum rules and I am moving the thread over to Ten Forward.

    Please continue your discussion there.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    but why are only boars allowed? what about the sows?
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  • alexmakepeacealexmakepeace Member Posts: 10,633 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    but why are only boars allowed? what about the sows?
    Because he's a chauvinist pig. :D

    I couldn't resist. Sorry.
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    No, but it's a pretty good game nonetheless.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,596 Community Moderator
    edited October 2014
    Anyone got a lead on how to get SFC3 working on a Win7 machine running a more recent version of DirectX? And maybe SFC2 and a way to have a freeplay campaign instead of just the ISC Invasion?
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    baudl wrote: »
    Still the best Star Trek MMORPG...i can even say that this is not only my opinion but an irrefutable fact ;)
    On the other hand, it is also the worst Star Trek MMORPG.

    I forget- was Jinn the guy with the avatar of a hippo wearing a tutu ? :D

    We're way overdue for a xc/dyna reunion.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Anyone got a lead on how to get SFC3 working on a Win7 machine running a more recent version of DirectX? And maybe SFC2 and a way to have a freeplay campaign instead of just the ISC Invasion?

    Friend of mine had one of the earlier games running (may have been the first one). I'll ask him what he did and get back to you.

    I wish to hell GOG would re-release them.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,596 Community Moderator
    edited October 2014
    Maybe they will. In the meantime I still have the physical copies.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • f9thretxcf9thretxc Member Posts: 505 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    I forget- was Jinn the guy with the avatar of a hippo wearing a tutu ? :D

    We're way overdue for a xc/dyna reunion.

    J'inn was the lawyer dude, with the girlfriend Shoposaurus rex. I think your thinking of Kroma, LOL, yeah the Gorn in a pink Tutu. He used to tell the best stories on the D2 forums.

    I'm Sirgod aka Stephen over there btw brother. But yes, A good old reunion would be great.

    Edit to add. We have the SFC:community Edition up at the Dynaverse friends, if your still interested in the SFC game.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,489 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Fleet Operations. Good times, good models, excellent game play.

    I wonder how the work on their new game engine (Armada 2 engine was too restrictive) is progressing.
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Im going way back to the age of the SNES for those people old enough to remember the SNES

    Star trek Starfleet academy simulator

    a very good game that was based on TOS and TMP eras.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,489 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Im going way back to the age of the SNES for those people old enough to remember the SNES

    Star trek Starfleet academy simulator

    a very good game that was based on TOS and TMP eras.

    TNG: Klingon Honor Guard was my first Star Trek themed game.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    questerius wrote: »
    TNG: Klingon Honor Guard was my first Star Trek themed game.

    Unfortunatley i wasnt abole to get that game
    i did have a game about TNG on the sega genesis i forgot the name but it was a cool game though :)
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,489 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Unfortunatley i wasnt abole to get that game
    i did have a game about TNG on the sega genesis i forgot the name but it was a cool game though :)

    The producer does not exist anymore so you can get it at abandonware.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    questerius wrote: »
    The producer does not exist anymore so you can get it at abandonware.

    aight thanks for the link :)
  • syndonaisyndonai Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    garside wrote: »
    A3 Was made for free by fans. its cannon, and way better looking than any other st game ever made.

    its the TRUE-EST st game ever made, cuz it was made by fans for fans, not by executives for money.


    also, the artwork and gameplay and balance shows everyone involved in the mod is more professional than most professionals.

    just eye-popping goodness.

    Wait, but half the models are ripped from STO itself. Look at the Scimitar for instance, lol.
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  • chestertrekchestertrek Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    wilbor2 wrote: »

    OMG!! THAT brings back memories!

    I also had one of those. I love the way that it got harder just by everything moving faster and faster.
    :D
  • neppakyoneppakyo Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Here's the full video of Star Trek: Klingon, With Galron from 1996, with all the point and click choices made. It's like watching a low budget movie ^^

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3vF9LXZePE

    I reccomend turning captions on, its f**king hilarious.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    f9thretxc wrote: »
    J'inn was the lawyer dude, with the girlfriend Shoposaurus rex. I think your thinking of Kroma, LOL, yeah the Gorn in a pink Tutu. He used to tell the best stories on the D2 forums.

    I'm Sirgod aka Stephen over there btw brother. But yes, A good old reunion would be great.

    Edit to add. We have the SFC:community Edition up at the Dynaverse friends, if your still interested in the SFC game.

    Oh jeez- Kroma, how could I forget. :D Will head over to dyna and take a look. Tnx for the HU.
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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Y'know, on reflection I think STO *does* deserve the "#1 Trek game" accolade for a number of reasons.

    (1) Customisation. No other Trek game gives you so much flex in your focus, or even took much notice of the idea of a "crew" rather than just a captain or ship. Other games focussed either purely on the captain or starship combat. STO allows you to build and tailor a crew of BOffs and, to a lesser extent, DOffs.

    (2) As a whole, STO actually has a strong narrative thread - certainly more so than any other game with the possible exception of Klingon Academy. And even KA's was very limited compared to STO's, which has actually progressed over the years over multiple fronts - like the series themselves.

    (3) STO covers far more of the vast Trek universe than any other games. Whether it's classic TOS villains like the Gorn and Orions, or the Dominion from DS9, or the Undine, all the various series get a fair hearing, and players can - to some extent - tailor their alts to fit their favourites (says he with an ENT-themed crew in a pseudo-NX Armitage).

    (4) STO can be played on a multitude of levels - from the canon RPer who only does the storyline and RP, through to the hardcore PVP community.

    Just my tuppence. I think that it's so easy for people to get fed up with the (self imposed, imaginary) arms race of grinding for top-level gear that they forget what the game actually offers.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    staq16 wrote: »
    Y'know, on reflection I think STO *does* deserve the "#1 Trek game" accolade for a number of reasons.

    (1) Customisation. No other Trek game gives you so much flex in your focus, or even took much notice of the idea of a "crew" rather than just a captain or ship. Other games focussed either purely on the captain or starship combat. STO allows you to build and tailor a crew of BOffs and, to a lesser extent, DOffs.

    (2) As a whole, STO actually has a strong narrative thread - certainly more so than any other game with the possible exception of Klingon Academy. And even KA's was very limited compared to STO's, which has actually progressed over the years over multiple fronts - like the series themselves.

    (3) STO covers far more of the vast Trek universe than any other games. Whether it's classic TOS villains like the Gorn and Orions, or the Dominion from DS9, or the Undine, all the various series get a fair hearing, and players can - to some extent - tailor their alts to fit their favourites (says he with an ENT-themed crew in a pseudo-NX Armitage).

    (4) STO can be played on a multitude of levels - from the canon RPer who only does the storyline and RP, through to the hardcore PVP community.

    Just my tuppence. I think that it's so easy for people to get fed up with the (self imposed, imaginary) arms race of grinding for top-level gear that they forget what the game actually offers.

    1. limited as you would expect from an mmo.
    2. story has to make sense for it to be good. its all disjoined.
    3. correction it covers more sto canon trek universe. there is no reference to canon as to what happened, for example the federation are supposed to be in the quadrant quite a few decades later then they should according to Q and for all we know the kazon were made extinct because the think tank over thought on an idea and wiped em out and now every alien in the quadrant is looking for blood over such genocide. you just dont know.
    4. you have one path, to level up, thats your only pat and role. the rest is merely a distraction.
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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    1. limited as you would expect from an mmo.
    2. story has to make sense for it to be good. its all disjoined.
    3. correction it covers more sto canon trek universe. there is no reference to canon as to what happened, for example the federation are supposed to be in the quadrant quite a few decades later then they should according to Q and for all we know the kazon were made extinct because the think tank over thought on an idea and wiped em out and now every alien in the quadrant is looking for blood over such genocide. you just dont know.
    4. you have one path, to level up, thats your only pat and role. the rest is merely a distraction.

    And other Trek games are better, how? All have the same problems you describe but to a much greater extent.

    Problem is, what a lot of people want is not an MMO but a true Trek RPG. True RPGs only work with a dedicated, living gamesmaster to run them.
  • bubblebaflebubblebafle Member Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    staq16 wrote: »
    Y'know, on reflection I think STO *does* deserve the "#1 Trek game" accolade for a number of reasons.

    (1) Customisation. No other Trek game gives you so much flex in your focus, or even took much notice of the idea of a "crew" rather than just a captain or ship. Other games focussed either purely on the captain or starship combat. STO allows you to build and tailor a crew of BOffs and, to a lesser extent, DOffs.

    (2) As a whole, STO actually has a strong narrative thread - certainly more so than any other game with the possible exception of Klingon Academy. And even KA's was very limited compared to STO's, which has actually progressed over the years over multiple fronts - like the series themselves.

    (3) STO covers far more of the vast Trek universe than any other games. Whether it's classic TOS villains like the Gorn and Orions, or the Dominion from DS9, or the Undine, all the various series get a fair hearing, and players can - to some extent - tailor their alts to fit their favourites (says he with an ENT-themed crew in a pseudo-NX Armitage).

    (4) STO can be played on a multitude of levels - from the canon RPer who only does the storyline and RP, through to the hardcore PVP community.

    Just my tuppence. I think that it's so easy for people to get fed up with the (self imposed, imaginary) arms race of grinding for top-level gear that they forget what the game actually offers.

    1. Disagree. Its almost the same as any other mmorpg. You talk me about champions online, and i would agree. But it is not the case of STO.

    2-3 What you expect? do you realize STO is an mmorpg and there is no others star trek mmorpgs out there, right?

    4. Rp? lol. There is sooo little rp in STO.. really.

    And no. I dont consider a "good" game, not matter if it is about sto or not, a game full of bugs, glitches, broken things and fails everywhere. This is one of the things that prevents STO to be the best star trek game ever made. Basically.

    And we are in the year 2014. We need to compare things between decades. As we said, the best star trek games are the ones people mentioned all around this thread. STO is not. Of course it is placed in top of the list.. but it will never be the best star trek game out there.
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