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Federation Ship Buffs

sulfrustriplesulfrustriple Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
The Aquarius, Vesta, D'kyr, ARVR each were buffed in the latest patch. Is there any consideration that other vessels belonging to the KDF or Romulans may properly need similar updates for whatever rationale was used in making the changes to the Federation vessels?
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  • fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Simple it's the numbers. Feds vastly outnumber the others. Numbers equal potential customers, which leads them to making decisions based on what well return the most profit.

    If you want balance, faction uniqueness, actual roles, and content not designed as a cash grab - you'll have to go somewhere else.
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  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    if they made a rom adjustment the scimitar would need to be debuffed. that'd go over well. :)
  • sulfrustriplesulfrustriple Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    fatman592 wrote: »
    Simple it's the numbers. Feds vastly outnumber the others. Numbers equal potential customers, which leads them to making decisions based on what well return the most profit.

    If you want balance, faction uniqueness, actual roles, and content not designed as a cash grab - you'll have to go somewhere else.

    If this changing values in a data table result in more profit on 75% of the player base, wouldn't making similar adjustments for KDF and Rom add even more profit from the remaining 25% of the playerbase? It's not like changing the values requires investment, and if you're correct on the reason for the changes, then they'd get even more.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    sulfrustriple wrote: »
    If this changing values in a data table result in more profit on 75% of the player base, wouldn't making similar adjustments for KDF and Rom add even more profit from the remaining 25% of the playerbase? It's not like changing the values requires investment, and if you're correct on the reason for the changes, then they'd get even more.
    it's about manhours to return on investment. if it takes 20 manhours to change 20 ships they can use those 20 manhours on ships that 75% buy or on ships that 25% buy. which one has the better potential return for the manhours invested?

    for your theory to be correct it would mean those 20 manhours would never be used for anything else. that's not the case. it's not do kdf or do nothing. it's do kdf or do fed. you're going to use the manhours so you use them in areas that make you the most money.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    3 of those ships were pretty out of date anyways, and its not like science ships have ever been powerhouses outside of a couple of PVPers. I'm surprised to see the Vesta mentioned though; what got changed?

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    Well the Aquarius isn't sci of course, but still its been considered a flying joke for like 2 years, so the point still stands.
  • mrgrocer56mrgrocer56 Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    NO! Now back in your hole!

    lol I feel your pain:(
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    reginamala78 wrote: »
    3 of those ships were pretty out of date anyways, and its not like science ships have ever been powerhouses outside of a couple of PVPers. I'm surprised to see the Vesta mentioned though; what got changed?

    More hull, something that Geko threatened to do in a while.

    I say "threatened" as a Vesta User. It's already the uber Science Vessel. It should have a bit of an Achilles heel somewhere.
    Ah, well, I guess I'll just keep flying it then...
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Wait the vesta was buffed? I didn't notice anything different on my stats, unless I'm overlooking that hull increase he said he was going to do.
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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,331 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    chiyoumiku wrote: »
    Wait the vesta was buffed? I didn't notice anything different on my stats, unless I'm overlooking that hull increase he said he was going to do.

    The buffs are on gribble they have uyet to reach holodeck.
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Okay that would be why I didn't notice anything. Interesting.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    fatman592 wrote: »
    If you want balance, faction uniqueness, actual roles, and content not designed as a cash grab - you'll have to go somewhere else.

    So sad and yet so true. :( So very true. :(
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    More hull, something that Geko threatened to do in a while.

    I say "threatened" as a Vesta User. It's already the uber Science Vessel. It should have a bit of an Achilles heel somewhere.
    Ah, well, I guess I'll just keep flying it then...

    Not only hull, but the shield mod. will be upped to 1.4. As another Vesta user, although I wellcome a free buff, I honestly didn't see the need for this. I never died in my Vesta anyway, it's especially hard to get blown up with the 3 "oh s**t!" consoles and the impenetrable shield set bonus. They've just made the best science ship in the game better for some reason. *shrugs*
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Iagree, the trait revamp really didn't affect my Vesta much. I welcome the buff but again I also don't see the need for it. But hey free buff is free.
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  • sulfrustriplesulfrustriple Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I don't know the rationale the Cryptic team used to conclude these ships needed a buff (Aquarius excluded). It's interesting to see those that operate these ships are surprised yet pleased with the improvements.

    Consideration for other ships, including KDF, Rom, Lockbox, Anniversary, etc, within whatever context Cryptic used would be something to which the playerbase may react well.

    Cheers
  • ladymyajhaladymyajha Member Posts: 1,428 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'll admit I also don't see why they picked the Vesta to buff. There are other science ships out there that could have used the help a lot more then the Vesta. In fact almost all (but not all) of the science ships out there could have used the help more then the Vesta.
  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,790 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    shpoks wrote: »

    Not only hull, but the shield mod. will be upped to 1.4. As another Vesta user, although I wellcome a free buff, I honestly didn't see the need for this. I never died in my Vesta anyway, it's especially hard to get blown up with the 3 "oh s**t!" consoles and the impenetrable shield set bonus. They've just made the best science ship in the game better for some reason. *shrugs*



    I agree; it is hard to think that the Vesta would need a buff. I assume that they are doing this to make the 3-Pack more appealing once the T6 Ships come out.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    westx211 wrote: »
    The buffs are on gribble they have uyet to reach holodeck.

    I'm confused. Isn't Holodeck the Test Server???
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  • ladymyajhaladymyajha Member Posts: 1,428 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    I'm confused. Isn't Holodeck the Test Server???

    LMAO!

    yes but they need to send the stuff to Tribble first so the bugs can breed and incubate the required waiting period before going to Holodeck for test.
  • sulfrustriplesulfrustriple Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    I'm confused. Isn't Holodeck the Test Server???

    Well played Warmaker001b, well played.
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