I've only just started tinkering with the IOs ground abilities... so far, I am liking what I see...
I would, however.. request, beg, and plead that:
1. "Alien" would be added before launch, for ALL FACTIONS
2. Pleasepleaseplease.. let Romulans get ROMULAN IOs for Romulus Command. It makes absolutely no sense that a Romulan would need Federation or Klingon "Intelligence" .. They're sneaky enough to be able to do it on their own!! (And, do not think that absolves the need for Romulan-Alien IO's either)
Please?? Please tell me this is going to be worked in before DR launches in the next two weeks...
1. "Alien" would be added before launch, for ALL FACTIONS
Seconded! (why the hell don't we have alien RR officers anyway?) Species selection seems rather slap-dash at the moment and I hope that what we end up with is merely an intelligence option for ALL species recruitment options (including c-store.)
As for 2, I doubt that what we have to put up with on tribble is the intended final state of officer selection. Ie. there will be Romulan IO's (I believe they're just broken on the current build.)
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I like the idea's the OP has put forth and would agree that the Romulans should be able to have a way to purchasing there own Intel boff's. As it stands the only way I'd use the fed or kdf intel boffs . Is for ground missions. A romulan intel boff without rom operative , or a reman intel boff without infiltrator are very No GO. As a primarily Romulan player, I've set up my warbirds to make use of rom operative , subterfuge, infiltrator etc. if were going to be shafted on intel boff's , then I see very little point in even bothering with the shiny T6 ships if were going to be limited to the intel boffs only being useable on ground teams.
As for alien intel boff's that's fine but for me at least If we can't get romulan or reman Intel boff's without the prefered space traits . then I do not see myself using too much of them. I would like to think I'm not in the minority population amoung the Romulan player base with this.
Roms should have the option to recruit Romulan and Remain Intelligence specialists already... I'll investigate why this might not be the case.
Did you check at New Romulus Command? Were they not there?
As for adding additional species... we'll see. It's a not-insignificant amount of additional work to set up more species for each faction.
No they weren't there. I checked this weekend with a KDF aligned romulan alien and the only options available at the NR Command boff contact were the standard varieties.
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Roms should have the option to recruit Romulan and Remain Intelligence specialists already... I'll investigate why this might not be the case.
Did you check at New Romulus Command? Were they not there?
As for adding additional species... we'll see. It's a not-insignificant amount of additional work to set up more species for each faction.
on rom characters especially these intel boffs are a concern. because on my rom, i went to the trouble of acquiring an all superior infiltrator/operative crew, a very large part of what makes rom characters so good is slotting 5 of these boffs. displacing any of those so i could slot intel powers on intel ships, is very far from ideal, deal breaker territory.
this is one of those things hinging on whether i buy that operations pack. will those purple quality intel boffs that come with it, for romulan captains, come with superior infiltrator/operative traits?
on rom characters especially these intel boffs are a concern. because on my rom, i went to the trouble of acquiring an all superior infiltrator/operative crew, a very large part of what makes rom characters so good is slotting 5 of these boffs. displacing any of those so i could slot intel powers on intel ships, is very far from ideal, deal breaker territory.
this is one of those things hinging on whether i buy that operations pack. will those purple quality intel boffs that come with it, for romulan captains, come with superior infiltrator/operative traits?
I've got to agree with this Poster. I'm in the same boat, boff and doff wise. I spent a long while working on the character, the ships and crews.
New Romulus Command does not have any Intel boff options. Nor did the romulan flotilla have intel boff's . Just the standerd ones.
Thanks Bort for looking into this further . cheers .
Would be nice if you guys would make an intel officer that could be used on bops to get infiltration trait for us KDF players or something like it say maybe for nausicaan boffs at the least. Is one of my pet peeves is I really love bird of preys but they are not very useful in todays game. They lost their offense due to the cloak ambush at one time was basically a high damage vape but now in comparison its like being hit with a wad of paper. So if something on this issue could be done I might could have something to look forward to in this game but if not I'll probally won't bother with the expansion tbh.
these 3 per faction purple intel boffs really should get these rom faction boff traits. what would be a better fit for an intelligence boff then traits like subterfuge, operative and infiltrator?
for quite a while now the fed and kdf have been in need of boffs as good as rom characters get, well this at least would be a way to help even the score a bit between the faction. giving folks that support cryptic enough to buy the operation pack 3 of these intel boffs with these desirable traits would be nearly as big an incentive as all the ship, for getting the pack to me.
the 3 boffs should consist of 2 op/sub and 1 inf/sub ideally.
I agree with the OP, but I'd settle for having SOME control over them using their Ground Intelligence Abilities.
These patch notes Tribble 09-30-2014 show that there was obviously a lot of effort put into the IOff's abilities in this patch, but before this patch, I had no control over their Ground Intelligence Abilities, but the combat log clearly showed they were using them, and yet these patch notes do not state that as having been changed at all.
They're not beside their lifebar things, they can't be slotted into the Powers Tray, but they can decide when to use them, and on whom?
I get that they're INTELLIGENCE Officers, but if they're going to be on my Admiral's team, and go where he says, and behave how he says, why shouldn't my Admiral be able to give them other orders such as "Hit this thing with the EMP"?
I'm lost...HOW does that make sense?
"Join Date: Jun 2012" Says Cryptic's "new" forum system. I've been here since a week before launch, but SOME stuff just didn't carry over through multiple system changes/updates. :rolleyes:
I understand it may not be "easy" work... but it would only be for one faction; and would also make for a huge boon to the QoL of a Romulan Faction player... at least, this one anyway.
will those purple quality intel boffs that come with it, for romulan captains, come with superior infiltrator/operative traits?
It would be a gigantic facepalm-worthy situation if the BOFFs with the specialization themed around stealth would lack traits designed to support cloaking.
No they weren't there. I checked this weekend with a KDF aligned romulan alien and the only options available at the NR Command boff contact were the standard varieties.
I've double-checked the internal data. Looks like New Romulus Command was still disabled from earlier testing, but there should be a store on the Romulan Republic Flotilla that sells Romulan and Reman Intel Boffs.
We'll get the one at New Rom Command turned back on in a future patch.
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It would be a gigantic facepalm-worthy situation if the BOFFs with the specialization themed around stealth would lack traits designed to support cloaking.
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Seconded! (why the hell don't we have alien RR officers anyway?) Species selection seems rather slap-dash at the moment and I hope that what we end up with is merely an intelligence option for ALL species recruitment options (including c-store.)
As for 2, I doubt that what we have to put up with on tribble is the intended final state of officer selection. Ie. there will be Romulan IO's (I believe they're just broken on the current build.)
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As for alien intel boff's that's fine but for me at least If we can't get romulan or reman Intel boff's without the prefered space traits . then I do not see myself using too much of them. I would like to think I'm not in the minority population amoung the Romulan player base with this.
Did you check at New Romulus Command? Were they not there?
As for adding additional species... we'll see. It's a not-insignificant amount of additional work to set up more species for each faction.
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No they weren't there. I checked this weekend with a KDF aligned romulan alien and the only options available at the NR Command boff contact were the standard varieties.
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on rom characters especially these intel boffs are a concern. because on my rom, i went to the trouble of acquiring an all superior infiltrator/operative crew, a very large part of what makes rom characters so good is slotting 5 of these boffs. displacing any of those so i could slot intel powers on intel ships, is very far from ideal, deal breaker territory.
this is one of those things hinging on whether i buy that operations pack. will those purple quality intel boffs that come with it, for romulan captains, come with superior infiltrator/operative traits?
I've got to agree with this Poster. I'm in the same boat, boff and doff wise. I spent a long while working on the character, the ships and crews.
New Romulus Command does not have any Intel boff options. Nor did the romulan flotilla have intel boff's . Just the standerd ones.
Thanks Bort for looking into this further . cheers .
for quite a while now the fed and kdf have been in need of boffs as good as rom characters get, well this at least would be a way to help even the score a bit between the faction. giving folks that support cryptic enough to buy the operation pack 3 of these intel boffs with these desirable traits would be nearly as big an incentive as all the ship, for getting the pack to me.
the 3 boffs should consist of 2 op/sub and 1 inf/sub ideally.
These patch notes Tribble 09-30-2014 show that there was obviously a lot of effort put into the IOff's abilities in this patch, but before this patch, I had no control over their Ground Intelligence Abilities, but the combat log clearly showed they were using them, and yet these patch notes do not state that as having been changed at all.
They're not beside their lifebar things, they can't be slotted into the Powers Tray, but they can decide when to use them, and on whom?
I get that they're INTELLIGENCE Officers, but if they're going to be on my Admiral's team, and go where he says, and behave how he says, why shouldn't my Admiral be able to give them other orders such as "Hit this thing with the EMP"?
I'm lost...HOW does that make sense?
I know someone else already replied with an answer, but to confirm... No they are not available.
Romulan BOff Vendor, New Romulus Command
I would also like to illustrate that both the KDF and the Federation already have access to Alien/Unknown Bridge Officers. :
Federation BOff Vendor, ESD
Klingon BOff Vendor, Qo'noS
I understand it may not be "easy" work... but it would only be for one faction; and would also make for a huge boon to the QoL of a Romulan Faction player... at least, this one anyway.
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I've double-checked the internal data. Looks like New Romulus Command was still disabled from earlier testing, but there should be a store on the Romulan Republic Flotilla that sells Romulan and Reman Intel Boffs.
We'll get the one at New Rom Command turned back on in a future patch.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
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lol welcome to the kdf!